Any mobile developers out there that want to work on a project together? I was thinking a nice new NSkill for the iPhone. The info is available just need the time, coding and cash. I would be willing to fund...
Any interest?
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Any mobile developers out there that want to work on a project together? I was thinking a nice new NSkill for the iPhone. The info is available just need the time, coding and cash. I would be willing to fund...
Any interest?
But why on the phone?
So it's always available. I always have my phone, most people do... Rarely am I at a PC where I can have access to NSkill.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueRobot
I also hate searching the AppStore for neocron and having zero results. It would also lend to a lot of other things like showing population, linking to the tutorial videos people are discussing, etc...
Why not on the phone?
Make it a HTML+js frontend and you have pretty much all platforms covered.
Why waste time on a platform specific app? You don't need access to the hardware sensors or crazy computing power.
I don't see nskill requiring anything beyond the well supported HTML5 APIs.
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Originally Posted by BlueRobot
This is why I asked if any developers were interested... I haven't written a line of code other than PowerShell in probably 6-7 years. You know better than I would in regards to this subject matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by aKe`cj
Could you still have the "app" available but simply have it display the HTML5? This would atleast get it in the stores(free).
There a numerous "apps" that are little more than a browser window with a html app inside, so yes, that can be done. I still don't see why it would make sense, but if you were to publish such an app, it would be interesting to find out who will legally grant you the use of the Neocron trademark and related artworks.
Thumbs up for trying to support NC, but publishing an app of any sorts without programming skills may not be the most effective way of support. I dont mean to dishearten you, but ideas and projects are plentiful and most programmers have no trouble finding work or starting projects of their own.
What exactly is it you are looking to contribute to such a project?
I'm not gonna lie. I would get a proper chubby for this app.
It's simply something I would like to have available. I struggle to find time to play let alone fire up NSkill to look at character configurations. But I always have my phone and if it were available on a mobile device I would be able to 'play' a lot more or at least be involved with my characters and NC more.
Getting permission to use copyrighted material is a few steps ahead. I just wanting to discuss possible solutions to an annoyance (limited access) of mine.
I didn't say I have no programming experience. For almost 4 years I built webapps / databases for clinical trials. But I have sense moved to a more strategic/planning/leadership role.
Contribute - right now just a topic for discussion. If something materialized out of it then whatever was needed within reason...PM/funding/etc.
I am not even saying its a good idea. Just a thought and an annoyance.
/edit to add
It would be my hope that if there ever was an actual new version/launch of NC that there would be the ability to interact through a mobile app. Even simple things like getting access to citycom or limited access to support characters like research or construct or if there were actually player run shops to check supply, add/remove items or maybe implant/repair/etc stations you could 'man' remotely via app.
Wow has an app. Just gonna throw that out there. It has access to the armoury and the bank and the shop (auction house) and stuff.
Whilst I love the ambition here I cannot think of much that I would want to do in nc with a mobile app - other than Nskill, Herrad's implant calculator and access to Techhaven.org. All of the stuff you can do with the WOW app I dont think you have in nc.
The rest of the stuff I want to do with the game I need to be in game to do. At a push, if you could have some form of Poker-bot or something that you would be able to log in with from a mobile that would be good as people could use that to support the community whilst being away elsewhere and not actually in game. But in my mind this would also cause problems as it woud A) mean you need to effectively run nc on your phone and B) it would take away some of the interaction in NC.
However IF the Stock X was made to work again then this would be PERFECT for a mobile app, or some form of gambling app - Tsunami Syndicate anyone? Something you could use to win money or items with that would make a great application as a boredom killer while youre on the train or wherever.
I agree, nskill, implant and maybe a server population display would be a nice tool.
It's not anything new but it would be making them current and more easily accessible.
If there is anyone out there that knows a good deal about nskill and/or heralds implant calc and what's to approximate rough dev hours it would be much appreciated.
You can find a Windows Phone app for Neocron here but you have to sideload it (developer unlock). This project is just an old tech demo and allows you to read mails, see the server populations or just your characters.
Windows Phone ftw! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Zoltan
Can you do a hatchet job on that and come up with something?
Can you guide me to the easiest way to get the developer unlock.. ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoltan
http://www.buzzfrog.se/index.php/201...loper-account/Quote:
Originally Posted by Juppe
Well said :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropout
I don't personally see the need for a mobile app for NSkill to be honest, and if I did want to do it, I'd do it on Windows Phone. There are possibly a good few hundred people playing NC at the mo, and the subset of those that would prefer (read: use) a char build tool on a mobile platform is minimal.
However, I've been thinking of chopping some crap up and making a nice easy (.Net) class available with the original dmg calcs, runspeed, implants and item parser and whatnot, should someone want them. Though don't quote me on that, it might never come to pass with my present workload.
I would totally use Nskill when pooping, if I had it on my phone! :D
What about tablet users?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropout
However as Steve pointed out there isn't many users to justify the time in doing a proper mobile app, when you got 3 platforms to support (iPhone, Android and Windows Phone) Although if anyone has time to spare and wants to try it as a project, go for it.
aKe`cj has got the right idea and approach for developing a NSkill app. Use HTML and JS with a responsive layout SDK (Such as Bootstrap) and you got your mobile, tablet and desktop users all covered.
Thanks for all the input and ideas. I really like where this discussion is going... We already got access to something that I didn't know about from Zoltan. I'm sure we'll have a few people check that out! Thanks Zoltan!
You never know what may materialize from a simple topic of discussion :-)
NC SmartGlass ftw! Now THERE'S an app with potential :) Updating map, citycom, clan status, wiki hints particular to zone, stats, rares DB integration, etc. Make it, Bram!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brammers
Though I have to say, I've never used a browser-based HTML5/JS application that has performed as well as it could/should on a phone.
Can someone point me to the available APIs?
I have some experience with apache cordova, which supports almost all mobile platforms. The app itself is writen in HTML & JS. The same code could be used for a web version.
If I find the time this weekend, I might give it a try and report.
I'm sorry I've been on the road all weekend and just able to use my phone here in there while in the car. I will try to look tonight or tomorrow I remember seeing it somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by baracoder
Personally I'm not exactly sure but I know that others know exactly where. Hopefully someone will point you in the right direction. I realize the weekend is already half over but maybe it will help. If not again I will try to look tonight or tomorrow.
Thanks to Zoltan for the assistance:Quote:
Originally Posted by baracoder
You have to login here:
http://api.neocron-game.com/SessionManagement.asmx
and as a result you'll get a session token which is valid for ~15min.
You are able to request your needed informations with the token here:
http://api.neocron-game.com/publicInterface.asmx
The THN has a couple of API's available. There is one for the Item DB, but that one is due to be replaced in the future.
The THN Stats DB also has a API. You can access the self-documenting API list at http://stats.techhaven.org/info/api with a little extra documentation on the wiki. nEo-1664's THN-CPU bot in the IRC channel uses some of the API functions.