Quote Originally Posted by Bragi View Post
I think we have a different idea of what a JoaT is (which has been a long running debate over NC's history).
really? ive never had this debate with anyone because anyone who actually pllays all aspects of the game would understand what number one what jack of all trades, master of none actually means. Your argument is that a spy can do all these things int/dex based in the game because of the amount of points they have available. But in actuality they are indeed the "Masters" of technology, so that in itself eliminates them from being a candidate of JOAT. You are totally disregarding the psi skill, and the str skill. joAC....dont forget about ALL TRADES. a spy can bring nothing to the table strength wise or psi wise, where as a pe can definitely do things. PSI pe can rez and cast low level buffs(very usefull skill to have) have u ever heard of a heavy spy? how bout melee spy? neither have i. in nc1 those were very viable setups for pe's paw of tiger pe was the tits, as was tpc pe. a pe used to be able to gun a rhino as well as drive most other vehicles. the hightest a spy could gun was a scorpian trike. anyone who plays nc knows that the pe is the most versatile class in this game period.

now back on topic....

yea bragi, as old no 7 said, and i think i said it also. the negatives completely out weigh the positives at this point and nobody in their right mind would bother with them.