[R#186] T#186-T#197 Patch Discussion

**Dasore** · 25-04-14, 15:45

There are no free available details bout runspeed/dmg/resists etc. Everyone has to test it by his own or you know someone who knows it

thats what nc is all about.
I know guys getting bans so gms could check if they cheat cause they did too much damage, that are setups made at the limit of the possibilities of neocron. None ll tell ya their secrets, that are hours of testing most of those guys spent.

**Tankjr** · 25-04-14, 15:59

Sure, and thats one of the great Things why we play this Game. I know that Dasore. And you want to tell me that we dont have no Orientation for a runspeed capp on atl and agy ?? Means, no one can exactls tell me from which point up i shouldnt spend more points on named skills ? So how can this becalculated then when they patched or fuxed it ?? I dont believe, that there is no answer or my english is too bad or maybe u dont know it for yourself and follow options which other runners use.

I didnt want to know how a setup should b, just a kind of save and stocked info which is definetly known and approved from the dev site and experienced players know this. Simple basics for a new player ... i give up now.

Thanks anyways.

**Dasore** · 25-04-14, 16:14

nothing approved from the dev site, then more you skill then faster you are. there is no capp at the moment for anything except freq and aimspeed

**Tankjr** · 25-04-14, 16:37

Okay. I hope thats true.

One runner told me those days -i have for example 80% on ener ressi on spy.
Where is the limit ? How can i canculate or find out that its to high and doesnt be good enough ? He heared people saying ' if you set a value' too high, u will earn more damage, something like overcapped or damage overcapp ?! I couldnt explain him what this meant to be. I am just asking how people can speak something when its definetly not announced that we have no basic calculations on anything.... i feel like a bit fucked....somethibgs wrong.

Sorry, if u know what i mean..

**Dasore** · 25-04-14, 16:40

yeah it seems like when you got too high resists you start getting more dmg again. never heard anything of the devs bout that, but many people say that.

80% on a spy? ur doing something wrong anyway

**Tankjr** · 25-04-14, 16:56

Dasore... i dont speak about me, my setups or questions about how to set something.
So as u said there must be a rule for setting those points. And why does no one tell us if this is wrong or right, or not approved or something like that ? Why ? Why should i waste time to get touched with wrong information and this and that. So i return to topic and the beginning of what i only wanted to know - if we have announced basics in any kind of direction***which helps out, i search for it.

As no one can answer me i will inform those mates in that point u worte down here, means :nskill, bugged neofrag, tonns of loompills ...testings and things what people say about overcapps tbc are not approved and the devs didnt announced it ...so dont care what everybody says ..... very helpful ;-)

I am out. Have nice weekend guys

**Drachenpaladin** · 25-04-14, 17:02

I think the Devs really could give us some insight into certain things like how skills work etc. Its really a pain having to reverse half the games mechanics b trial and error to find out which skills are just requirement and which have an effect on this or that.

It doesn't help that all the help texts and stuff is outdated since all that stuff got changed over and over again.

**Tankjr** · 25-04-14, 17:22

Just sorry... a new runner comes here. That he choosed nc and no other in time game - respekt! He gots fast involved in whats going on, he is capped. But ....... no further info on how this and that works. How to calculate ??? I got armor, various weapons on different TL' freq, bal, implants... tbc.
Nobody can give u an answer how to get in this. And to ask people to copy a bit edited setups of someone ...naaah.

Everything looks like kind od secret or not approved or what the hell ... why ?
People need at least a few fuckin basics on how this things got count, react or beeing calculated. Noob is reading this discusso here, tries to understand what kind of numbers, prozential tl bla bla statistics going on.
Just to get those people a bit more informed ....if i would ask how many people exactly can analyse there damage logs, how many of you would be fair and say,... in each point- i can ?! Nice, i see numbers ..but where the hell is a formula to get into this ???

**Kame** · 25-04-14, 17:56

Honestly, things like formulas for skill and tutorials for noobs have nothing to do with balancing PVP.

**Tankjr** · 25-04-14, 17:59

You' re right. Ignore it and me. I dont care.

**BlueRobot** · 25-04-14, 18:09

Originally Posted by Tankjr

Dasore, all those Things are fine and maybe a good Solution. And yes, thats we they do. But i asked for more detailed Things like Basics. Didn't you read the example or ressist or runspeed capps which i asked for ? Especially Runspeed ... since the last Patch ...there must be a fuckin point at which Spending more Points on that must result in Useless ... where to find infos about. Who is approving me that spending 145 in agy isnt effecting now then it was on one of those last patches. Thats one of the points what i call' basics' and no neofrag in this world can show me an answer. '' they dont know it...

Experience/testing/asking experienced players.

There is no point in asking for the best value in a single stat. It has to fit your setup. If you dont want to spend that much time, ask someone for a complete setup.

In our clan, we have a few setups for new guys to look at or use. As soon as they get better, they make their own by testing(fighting)/asking

**Drachenpaladin** · 25-04-14, 18:42

Originally Posted by BlueRobot

Experience/testing/asking experienced players.

Ask ten of those and you will get five different answers on what skill has what effect and how it works. Only word from Devs is the real deal.

**BlueRobot** · 25-04-14, 18:48

Removed! - Lets keep things on topic shall we?

**Drachenpaladin** · 25-04-14, 18:59

Removed! - Lets keep things on topic shall we?

**Alduin** · 25-04-14, 19:05

Get back to topic: testing the current changes on Vedeena! Work your personal differences out by doing some 1vs1 PvP testing on Vedeena.

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