much less people playing than could be and I believe I know why

Simple reason, ie having to put ones phone number in to validate an account is BAD! Additionally I read on the official page that hotmail banned the use of necron or some such but tbh for a new player thats going to make them think that the signup is a scam, just saying.

Anyways just popped on and wandering to people still play, just popped on at 12:30 at night gmt, thing is I know I didnt expect many people but Im sure the server said zero. Its sad because this is still a really good game and I think the phone number thing is REALLY hurting you, and sure you can say it stopps multi accounts, well not really actually because many people have multiple phones

Anyways hope to hear from some people that still play as I would be sad despite my despair at how silly the signup system is if this game were going down to be forgotten about :(

Bad timing I'm afraid - the server was down for patching.

Regarding the hotmail issue we have unfortunately not been able to resolve the fact that most outbound mails (that includes signup confirmation, account passwords etc.) are not being delivered by hotmail and you would end up believing the signup was broken or your account request was being ignored. At this point we would have already lost some people. Others may contact outgame support – again using their hotmail account – and despite the request being answered promptly, it will appear as if they are communicating with a black hole or simply being ignored because the reply is not being delivered to the inbox either.

While this issue is not resolved, banning hotmail accounts from signup and informing the player about this issue is the lesser of two evils.

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience there, but none the less, welcome back to the community.

Would have to say it is more to do with the fact it has "been back" awhile, long enough for all the vets to come back and some to leave again, then they are not advertising yet, so there really arent any new players.

the new website should be ready first... have we a date for this? - then ad. but hey +2 runner... and more... this is going up. ;)
best time to come back... is now! i founded friends from 10 years ago a few hours... here again... so, hell yeah... lets rock! - nc1_oberliga is home... again.

Im actually a new player, but I came here by word of mouth, a friend of mine was an old player and talked me into playing, but he left again and Im running solo, grabbing group runs when I can lol

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Im actually a new player, but I came here by word of mouth, a friend of mine was an old player and talked me into playing, but he left again and Im running solo, grabbing group runs when I can lol

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aww man that sux :/ if ya need/want some help in game or anything shout for yahoo in game

For what it's worth I've had several friends start the sign up process but stop at the phone number and decide that they didn't want to play if they had to enter their phone in.

They don't like the idea that you have to prove your identity at the sign up? Well good riddance then.

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For what it's worth I've had several friends start the sign up process but stop at the phone number and decide that they didn't want to play if they had to enter their phone in.

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i tried to get into the game many times and stopped short at the phone number until i finally cracked. for people who do not feel the need for nc nostalgia the decision of playing an outdated mmo isn't so hard. i've also requested the support to delete my phone number form their database via email, but never got a reply. it's not even used. i never got any form of confirmation or code on my phone. so maybe you can just enter fantasy numbers... which i sadly did not do.

this is a problem.

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i've also requested the support to delete my phone number form their database via email, but never got a reply. it's not even used.

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I think it has been stated, that personal information is deleted after 48 hours or something after the account is confirmed. i am not 100% sure though.
If thats not communicated with account registration thats not so good I guess.

I know a lot of people who aren't keen on having a lot of details on the net. I guess even though the guys are very professional, there is a different attitude to providing private details for a free community game compared with a large company (even though the large companies have pretty much all been hacked...).

When my wife registered her account she asked why it was asking for her phone number, and was dubious.

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They don't like the idea that you have to prove your identity at the sign up? Well good riddance then.

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I know right. What kind of asshole second guesses giving their name, home address, phone number, and email address over to play a 10 year old game run by a volunteer support staff. They should start requiring medical records just to further sort out these people.

The issue is on our radar and we too are not happy about the current state of registration and account verification.
For what it is worth, I can assure you that all personal data is handled with appropriate care and certainly more secure than it has been before the volunteer crew took over.

I won't close this thread for the sole reason that I do not want to make the impression that anyone has the intention to ignore or shut down this topic, but I will tell you that it does make little sense to continue this "discussion". The current system will be replaced when a better solution is ready to be put in its place, but no sooner.

I can think of MANY reasons above this as to why people don't play ;)

What about people without a mobile phone? I guess I'm just very lucky I signed up looong ago..

Hi I have read about 50% of the posts on this thread here and intend to read them all in 2 mins. Btw I am glad to see so many responses and constructive ones at that. Seems like it was just bad timing on my part, Im so glad folk some still play and I may well ask a couple orf friends to play.

Although I resent very much giving out my mobile at least its not turned out that my mobile is getting stealth charged or anything so I was initially worried

Thanks all

Credit to you Mokio and just by what you said makes you rate much higher than many mods ande the fact you are keeping this thread means that people will not feel so insecure about signing up, I for one would have loved a thread in which players said the mobile method is safe so hopefully this helps others.

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The issue is on our radar and we too are not happy about the current state of registration and account verification.
For what it is worth, I can assure you that all personal data is handled with appropriate care and certainly more secure than it has been before the volunteer crew took over.

I won't close this thread for the sole reason that I do not want to make the impression that anyone has the intention to ignore or shut down this topic, but I will tell you that it does make little sense to continue this "discussion". The current system will be replaced when a better solution is ready to be put in its place, but no sooner.

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See you all in game and thanks for understanding, I feel tons better about it now that you folks realize that I am aware of the security implications and how in the cases of many sites they sell your info to third parties at best and do some scary stuff at worst. (Work in computer security so it means alot to me, if the user data is only for you guys and isnt gettingt used to sign the phones up to anything or going to a third party or many of the other stereotypical bad things that happen then Im happy now! Thank you!)

just a quick edit to appluad the posters that see sense and pointed out how many people wont sign up because of the phone number. I have kept and eye on the game for a LONG time but would not sign up because of the phone number. And for folk to say good riddance well thats really bordering on pure fanboyism as aside for my previously mentioned points theres no need for them to ask for peoples phone number if its supposed to be a FREE to play game. Sure the Neocron guys may be genuine which is all nfair and good but its a horrible system that I seek not to encourage lest it becomes mainstream and the webs bad enough for getting spyed on as it is. Its sad the niavety of many to just what degree they are getting monitored.

I still have my accs from 2004 so I do not know about the current sign up process. When it was implemented a few months ago it was said that a SMS is sent to the mobile number for the sign up. Is this still the case?

Furthermore I always thought the phone number was needed to make sure that one person does not open several accounts. But if it is deleted anyway after 48 hours, what does it help then?

It is also to ward off registration bots that try to sign up accounts automatically using bogus details. I can tell from some of the comments that some people haven't even thought about such possibility but it's a common everyday problem nowadays in online games and other services that require registration. Requiring the phone number is not a perfect solution but what is the alternative, credit card information?

Also I have to wonder what kind of person has access to the internet to play online games but doesn't have a mobile phone?

a good captcha and email activation, either way im just glad i git signed up and i have got a friend to signup who had loads of hassle finding his phone number so i gave him the number of one of my old phones, i appreciate about the bots but there are far better ways than peoples mobiles and im sure folks at the intelligence lvl of the neocron team who are involved in a community surrounding a game with prob 1 million lines of code plus will find a more friendly ssolution ;) Anyways I wasnt here to try and hurt anyone but if I have convinced others that the phone number signup thing is safe then thats a win win for the game ;)

Respectfully
David

Its a bit of a bitch to have to go through, it kind of scares you but i wouldnt worry about the phone number, random numbers will do.
I remeber seeing that awhile ago and thinking "shit they gonna ring me" but they never did, i dont have a mobile phone, so without a phone call the phone numbers dont mean squat.

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Also I have to wonder what kind of person has access to the internet to play online games but doesn't have a mobile phone?

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alot of people. i know a 80 year old couple that play wow for 5-6 hours everyday for the last 6-7 years that dont have cell phones. online gaming isnt restricted to a certain demographic. only reason i got a cell was because my then girlfriend/now wifes "cell phone" bill was astronomical every month cuz she was callin me everynite. i got a cell to cut her bill in half and have had it ever since :/ the cell phone thing on registration is a no no that should have never been implemented to begin with so i hope they find a fitting solution to the problem.