Leveling/Exploring Neocron together

With all those new and fresh knocking at the door, how about showing them Neocron? How about going leveling and exploring together, just for the fun of it. Instead of running the one millionst time through Regant's Legacy, let's explore other sectors, for example let's hunt down all those freaking out copbots inside the Gaya mines or have a go at hoverbots or maybe even clean the mc5 sector of all those troopers. This is in no way ment to level as fast as possible or to get as much loot as possible, it is ment to have as much fun together as possible!

Dear PvPers, you are welcomed to join us to peacfully level together. However I beg you not to disturb these leveling events/groups. People might be pretty fast pissed off. Nevertheless, how about doing some cage fights before leveling or afterwards, just to introduce our newbies/returning vets to the PvP in Neocron. I would volunteer to rezz people so we can fight the whole night!

In case there are enough people interested in this, tell me, in that case I will start organizing it.

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sounds fun, if you need any assistance give us a poke.

Very good idea. But it definately would be best to have someone with a high level/capped ppu (with LE) join in. And if thats not possible, take Mokoi's offer of assistance. Actually, probably do that anyways. Hell, maybe they will even do some fun stuff with you Guys - like mob spawns and stuff like that.

I know that the GMs just LOVE to spawn mobs.. Even when you have in-Clan Group fight practice... Okay, I really should let that one go - it was ages ago, but damn that was mean! lol

I'll maybe lom my monk and sort her out to do some PPUing She does not have an LE in though and she will probably be too high lvl to team, humm maybe I'll reroll an un used character slot, I just have no idea what class I'd want to make but I'm actually thinking of lvling a pistol spy hardcore mode and get it to be able to drive an APC, yeah that could be usefull for transporting everyone around.

Anyway give littleterror an ingame mail, I have other trade skilling characters to build lvling weapons etc.

/edit in fact mail ingame LiL T that's my constructor, so if you need any weapons built for new runners give me a list and with my barter and resser I'll see what I can do.

I got a non-LE PPU, so at least for non-LE groups, we already have a PPU. I have to have a look through my chars whether I still have an LEed monk available. Having a ride available for the people would be awesome!

Big yellow ball anyone :)
Good idea, we used to run them with transport to TH etc. funny as when people been running around NC city & sewers for several weeks and you take them outside......there's an outside wtf!

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Originally Posted by Riddle

Big yellow ball anyone :)
Good idea, we used to run them with transport to TH etc. funny as when people been running around NC city & sewers for several weeks and you take them outside......there's an outside wtf!

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Hahah I can imagine, yeah I remember the first time I exited the gates of neocron and was totally like WTF that bat is gonna kill me and then I fell down a hill and died and dropped a flash light, this was the days of beta when there was no quickbelt when a person died so I saw my beloved flashlight on the ground at the bottom of a steep hill, Fun times.

Any of the older players are welcome to help setup a foundation for new players, we will teach everything there is to know about neocron to new players, we will provided assistance in the form of researching store bought junk and make top quality lvling weapons and also provide armor and implants at no cost to the new players, providing we get those items back to be used again for the next newbie. This will limit the amount of work needed for making new armour and weapons for every new player that asks for our assistance , while it is possible to give every new player gear for them to keep it would take up a lot of time and so that would not work.

I also want to provide a forum or a way to enable new players to find people to lvl with and also members of this group will provide lvling support such as a ppu or just be there to level with the new players as originally suggested by r2d22k

I shall contribute by ganking the newbies, give them something to hate.

I've thought a bit about this idea and I like it a lot, I have it in my mind that new players can join into a channel such as a forum or even voice like vent or mumble to form into a recognised group of players, then we give them all they need to actually achieve soft cap, soft cap meaning not WOC.

I've come up with a plan, every player in this group will get all the tools and weapons to lvl at no cost and be upgraded every 10 lvls in their main stat, however they must give their old gear back at each time they are reviewed, every 10 lvls of dex as an example for a rifle spy. That ensures that all the gear we build is reused and prevents a total cluster fuck of older players having to BP and construct hundreds of items.

Also a clan would never work, forcing people to remove their LE at such a low level is irresponsible practise, however in the future if it works and we can provide protection then we can actually build a Neocron school clan, that not only teaches people to level but how to pvp and take outposts.

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Originally Posted by =REMUS=

I shall contribute by ganking the newbies, give them something to hate.

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And I will put you in your place once I have a working pvp character :D?

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Oh btw I'll kill your PPU before I kill you ^^

So many noobcakes on here who rely on ppu's.

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Originally Posted by LiL T

And I will put you in your place once I have a working pvp character :D?

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You're taking away a huge part of the experience of playing an mmo by handing everything to them on a silver platter, neocron is supposed to be a post-apocolypic world of strife and struggle. Sure level with them and explain things but don't take away any sense of accomplishment from them.

And I can guarantee you won't be able to put me in my place, if you plan to baby them... you will make them and yourself a target, for me at least ;)

I'm quite happy to play the villain, malevolent crackhead style :)

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Originally Posted by =REMUS=

You're taking away a huge part of the experience of playing an mmo by handing everything to them on a silver platter, neocron is supposed to be a post-apocolypic world of strife and struggle. Sure level with them and explain things but don't take away any sense of accomplishment from them.

And I can guarantee you won't be able to put me in my place, if you plan to baby them... you will make them and yourself a target, for me at least ;)

I'm quite happy to play the villain, malevolent crackhead style :)

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Ugh well is this whole game of kick dirt in their faces working well is it?

No its not working, have you seen other games today? Most of the time people will only continue playing them if they get some form of help because the ingame help is a joke, most people would leave this game the first freaken day because most of us NC players are jerks who would enjoy one shotting them for the lulz.

All I'm suggesting is that we the older players welcome new players with open arms till they at least reach cap and reaching cap these days is only half way...

I'm not gonna take anything away from them, what got you to think that? Is it the fact I'll build them weapons and stuff? Shit dude all I'd be doing there is taking away the long wait one experiences due to low server pops, obviously once the game gets up to high pops I'd suggest stopping this practise. I just want new blood, new people to actually stick with it and not feel alienated and hopeless because their are a lot of players currently who only log in to hurl abuse at each other and thats fine its neocron after all. But for the new potential player and potential subscriber its not a good image.

Meh shooting someone who doesnt have a chance of killing me is boring..

Wait, that wasent said right.. Then all pvp would be boring.. :P

But yea, shooting someone who cant even shoot back is very boring imo.
I'd rather help them out with tips and "tricks" so that I at a later time, can destroy them while they CAN shoot back! :D

People stopped playing this game due to bugs, hackers wreaking the econemy, lack of updates/events/communication and general miss-management. Not because of the community or play style, from my experience.

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Originally Posted by =REMUS=

People stopped playing this game due to bugs, hackers wreaking the econemy, lack of updates/events/communication and general miss-management. Not because of the community or play style, from my experience.

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Pretty sure that was the reason why most of the vets left the game. But very few noobs could handle the amount of griefing that has always been in this game.

And Im not playing holy here or anything, I have probably helped quite a few noobs to leave the game..
Not something that Im proud of and thank ... that we get older, huh?

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Originally Posted by Dropout

Pretty sure that was the reason why most of the vets left the game. But very few noobs could handle the amount of griefing that has always been in this game.

And Im not playing holy here or anything, I have probably helped quite a few noobs to leave the game..
Not something that Im proud of and thank ... that we get older, huh?

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We get older and then we grow up and understand...

I spent many years killing new players not just in this game but in others eve being the most, from that I've learned one thing, I'm killing myself over and over because I use to be that noob, that player with no understanding, this does not make me a bad person though I'm only doing it because its fun. But for a long, long time I've went out of my way to help new players, I've came across newbies asking for a researcher and I'd just say give me that weapon and I'll build you a one with slots and they always think I've just robbed them lol because the process of buying all the parts and shit to build it takes a long time of logging between characters.

But yeah I've always loved helping people out but I've also always played in RP as a killer or a drug dealer and that normally is the first they see but many times I just PM them and say don't stress I'll help you and I do.

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Originally Posted by =REMUS=

You're taking away a huge part of the experience of playing an mmo by handing everything to them on a silver platter, neocron is supposed to be a post-apocolypic world of strife and struggle. Sure level with them and explain things but don't take away any sense of accomplishment from them.

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The plan was never to babysit themor to service them everything on a silver platter. The main plan in the first place was to level together as a group in more unknown and fun places. Visiting the swamp caves, crystal caves and stuff like that. Showing them the world and exploring it together instead of just farming Regant over and over or just killing fire mobs or warbots. Additionaly, helping newbies out with equipment is always a good idea I think. This often motivates people to stay :) However, the help should not be of the form: "here you get this, get that, and you can leech xp from me while droning in Ceres labs". That's not fun, that's boring.

And one should also not forget: getting to know people and teaming up is not easy as LEed player, because you are not allowed to join a clan, so having a central "organization" or such where they can meet, get in touch with others, etc. would be great.

Sounds good to me and i'll probably join with a fresh made character (still missing a tank lol). I remember the times when we did level groups within the clan back on mars and got ganked so many times on different spots (clops ground/crp cave..raped by Hai Vish ...) was funny and so much adrenaline kicked in.
Ofc NC-life is pretty hard and dirty but i would always lend a newbie a helping hand to get them started.

If anyone wants help or a leveling partner i am always game. just pm me here

I don't have any le'd chars, and all my slots are filled so I probably won't be leveling a new char any time soon, but I'm always up for ppu'ing (non-le) or defense against ganking (defending against gankers is way more fun than ganking, at least if the gankers actually show up :P)

didnt they just re enable account creation? i thought that was the latest big news

for new players yes, but multiple accounts not atm (afaik to stop people from getting a hundred accounts).

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People stopped playing this game due to bugs, hackers wreaking the econemy, lack of updates/events/communication and general miss-management. Not because of the community or play style, from my experience.

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agreed, the fact that leveling is dangerous (or slower with le), is the main reason I loved neocron. The opwar and endgame pvp is what makes me stay, but the sheer thrill of moving into the big-boy territories with my storebought sharpened knife is what gave me the most satisfaction and what kept me interested.

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I don't have any le'd chars, and all my slots are filled so I probably won't be leveling a new char any time soon, but I'm always up for ppu'ing (non-le) or defense against ganking (defending against gankers is way more fun than ganking, at least if the gankers actually show up :P)

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They will show up if they know there is a lvling team, they always show up, I'm saying this will prior knowledge of pking... Just think about it for a moment, a group actively advertising their existence as a noob lvling organisation, how many people are going to arrive to gank it? A lot but that does not prevent this idea working it actually enforces it, it shows the noobs that this game you can be killed anywhere without an LE chip and most people are tempted to take out their LE just over half way to fit another chip in to use that higher weapon.

You're of coarse welcome to provide protection services.

I have already been helping some new players learn the ropes. I got a noob PE going

Why don't we just wait for NC:R and start leveling together when it's released? Just my opinion concerning this topic...

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Originally Posted by Mizore

Why don't we just wait for NC:R and start leveling together when it's released? Just my opinion concerning this topic...

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Okay, in how many years we meet again?

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I don't really know, what the problem is. Currently I'm leveling a pe as normally as possible. I do the mc5 mission, explore the mc5 cave, leveling in sewers, against beggars and mutants and currently it is still fun.
I have many full capped chars on terra but my first rule on leveling this pe is: 1) Do not support yourself.
It would be hard to cap or woc this char.. I know on PE it's really hard but possible.

What do I want to say?
It's really easy to explore PvE elements in NC and have a lot of fun additional u have someone with u leveling. If there are a new reactivaton wave, I would start with a new char too and have a lot of fun in level groups.

And sorry It's a false information if u think that only regant is occupied by level characters. My clan is often in different caves with a team leveling or collect stuff. Two weeks ago, we try to get the laserblade out of crystal cave and collect some. This week we are often in CRP Cave and Ceres Lab (not with rigger!). Sometimes in the week we have a small team in MC5 to collect implants for the clan and to sell to other players.

Sometimes I write some "new" experience with my pe on twitter:
https://twitter.com/BruceWa39398692

There should be a good PvP squad ready to help the noob level team whenever they get attacked by gankers.

That would be something new and fresh. And this way there is also more PvP going on for the members of the Noob Protection Squad (NPS).

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Originally Posted by Ivan Eres

There should be a good PvP squad ready to help the noob level team whenever they get attacked by gankers.

That would be something new and fresh. And this way there is also more PvP going on for the members of the Noob Protection Squad (NPS).

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I would join the team :D But the newbies could let their LE in