Long Overdue! Fix XP gains for some classes

[Arcaine]

In the early days, PPUs did get xp from healing spells (as it's negative 'damage' done to a target).

Cue PPUs macroing heal sanctums in P1.

I've been digging around, but it seems XP is a coding issue from what I can tell, at least when it comes to team stuff.

I may, may be able to do something about dex XP for APUs. This will need to be discussed internally though.

Try to disable or reduce healing experience gain in Safezones

[Odimara Orca]

Try to disable or reduce healing experience gain in Safezones

Then People Abuse on OZ4

[onero S]

Then People Abuse on OZ4

Ideally what would happen is while someone is healed, the PPU would generate xp as a percent (for instance 50) of the xp earned by the person being healed.

For example:

Suppose you have a three person team, an APU, a tank, and a PPU. The APU and Tank are aoeing and let's suppose the apu is generating 1.1 units of xp while the tank is generating 0.9 units of xp. If both are healed, the PPU would generate an additional unit of XP.

The math on this is fairly simple then, with groups of more than 2 dmg dealers, PPUs would actually generate additional (bonus) xp, this encouraging teaming.

[Izeo]

Ideally what would happen is while someone is healed, the PPU would generate xp as a percent (for instance 50) of the xp earned by the person being healed.

For example:

Suppose you have a three person team, an APU, a tank, and a PPU. The APU and Tank are aoeing and let's suppose the apu is generating 1.1 units of xp while the tank is generating 0.9 units of xp. If both are healed, the PPU would generate an additional unit of XP.

The math on this is fairly simple then, with groups of more than 2 dmg dealers, PPUs would actually generate additional (bonus) xp, this encouraging teaming.

It's just that healing xp will most likely be exploited by afk bots. Put the tank in a spot where he gets aggro'd by ranged enemies but gets backed into a corner, and hide your ppu in a way that the enemies only aggro the tank. The ppu always aims at the tank (afk) and clicks his heal every 30 sec or so automatically. Since the tank (probably) never gets pushed from his spot and doesn't take enough damage to die, this is infinite overnight xp.

[Trivaldi]

Let's get back to the root idea. Say we can alter XP gains based on the actions taken by different classes. What other areas of you see as problem areas? Monk DEX being a prime example.

[Odimara Orca]

Let's get back to the root idea. Say we can alter XP gains based on the actions taken by different classes. What other areas of you see as problem areas? Monk DEX being a prime example.

overall

20 is reachable through quests.
Constitution up to 40 also works.
If a secondary sill goes above 20 it's just a pain (500 TL150 Res missions.. COME ON!!!!)

Monk:

Intelligence
Dexterity

Spy:

Strength

Tank:

Constitution (like srsly)

I don't have any experience with a PE yet.

But i'd wager

Intelligence and PSI

Are troublesome

Regards

Odi

[Izeo]

^and monk Str. I had so much trouble with monk Str that I gave up on a monk and made a PE (and this is coming from an NC1 player... but I just never played a monk.)

I think dealing damage with fists should level str/dex at some rate. This would only help out new players and low level characters for the first ~5 levels but it probably wouldn't be uncommon for a new player to be punching scorpions in MC5. If he is a monk and he is observant enough to watch his xp and realizes he gained 0 xp, he might think the game is bugged. I'm not sure if spies gain xp with fists. But really, since it's like "unequipped" damage, it should probably be the same for all four classes.

[Odimara Orca]

^and monk Str. I had so much trouble with monk Str that I gave up on a monk and made a PE (and this is coming from an NC1 player... but I just never played a monk.)

I think dealing damage with fists should level str/dex at some rate. This would only help out new players and low level characters for the first ~5 levels but it probably wouldn't be uncommon for a new player to be punching scorpions in MC5. If he is a monk and he is observant enough to watch his xp and realizes he gained 0 xp, he might think the game is bugged. I'm not sure if spies gain xp with fists. But really, since it's like "unequipped" damage, it should probably be the same for all four classes.

Strength 20 you can easily reach through aggie missions.

Also the Stats should rise while using your MAIN Skill.

A Monk with Rifle

or a Spy with a Sword

That's just dumb and counterintuitive.

[Arcaine]

Then People Abuse on OZ4

No matter what you are trying, people will always find a way to abuse it.....but to afk heal in oz 4 will be a little more dangerous than in safezones