Development Update May/June 2013

**nabbl** · 05-07-13, 14:31

Originally Posted by eNTi

i'm a programmer and fix bugs in other people's code on a daily basis. so yes. i'd at least take a look at the code base and try to work out some fixes and maybe others would too. neocron could be so much more than it ever was.

So why don't you write an application?

**Zoltan** · 05-07-13, 23:31

Originally Posted by eNTi

i'm a programmer and fix bugs in other people's code on a daily basis. so yes. i'd at least take a look at the code base and try to work out some fixes and maybe others would too. neocron could be so much more than it ever was.

Sorry, I heard this very often in the last time. "I'm a programmer" doesn't able to get Neocron fixed. I am pretty sure you underestaminate the whole thing

Write me an application if you are the meaning you can fit our needs in the Neocron development.

About the open source things. Let me make it clear. OPEN SOURCE WILL LEAD TO THE END OF NEOCRON.

Anyone, who is able to thing about it more than just 5 min will understand me at this point.

**Ascension** · 06-07-13, 00:07

Originally Posted by Zoltan

Sorry, I heard this very often in the last time. "I'm a programmer" doesn't able to get Neocron fixed. I am pretty sure you underestaminate the whole thing

Write me an application if you are the meaning you can fit our needs in the Neocron development.

About the open source things. Let me make it clear. OPEN SOURCE WILL LEAD TO THE END OF NEOCRON.

Anyone, who is able to thing about it more than just 5 min will understand me at this point.

Yup as everyone will be able to exploit the net code and it will become a barren wasteland of hacked characters.

**Chuck Norris** · 06-07-13, 00:51

Originally Posted by Ascension

Yup as everyone will be able to exploit the net code and it will become a barren wasteland of hacked characters.

Lol
o ya

its totally not that

need to move on to a new client and server software or this will always be a problem

ABORTION

**hatmankh** · 06-07-13, 01:12

I hope the volunteer team don't let some of the negativity in this thread get to them, most of us really appreciate your efforts.

Genuine question to those complaining at the perceived lack of progress, would you prefer the volunteer team never took over and things stayed the same as they were before? Neocron on life support, no real patches made in over 4 years, server populations of 2-4% and no real way for new players to join, with account creation closed.

You should be grateful the game is even being hosted at all, let alone still being developed by volunteers working for free, in their own time and paying the server fees out of their own pockets.

http://forum.neocron.com/showthread....=1#post2216493

^ All the patch notes since the volunteer team took over, read it and remind yourselves what has been achieved already, they've inherited a huge mess and have done extremely well just to get Neocron where it is now. Of course there are still big issues but the volunteer team have proven time and time again that they're capable of fixing them and for the first time in years it's no longer a question of if that will ever happen but when.

**eNTi** · 06-07-13, 11:06

Originally Posted by Ascension

Yup as everyone will be able to exploit the net code and it will become a barren wasteland of hacked characters.

i don't think you understand how open source works. if exposing the code leads to people exploiting the game even more, there already is a BIG PROBLEM. generally code that is being peer reviewed tends to be far more robust and secure than closed code.

**Chuck Norris** · 06-07-13, 14:20

Especially when old cracked clients and GM tools have been leaked to such old software already ;(

**Brammers** · 08-07-13, 12:04

Originally Posted by eNTi

i don't think you understand how open source works. if exposing the code leads to people exploiting the game even more, there already is a BIG PROBLEM. generally code that is being peer reviewed tends to be far more robust and secure than closed code.

That would not be the main problem. The Neocron community is too small to be realistically split over more than one server.

**William Antrim** · 08-07-13, 12:27

The negativity is not critically bashing anyone or flaming anyone for being shit at something. The negativity is due to a lack of progress.

Nobody here thinks the dev team currently running the game is evil or bad in any way shape or form.

the game is stable now, yes that is very true and that was one milestone which needed to be reached. Server hardware is obviously another issue but noone could foresee that issue until it happened. Sure thing, they had a problem they fixed it. Good work.

The problem here is the lack of players.

The reason there is a lack of players is because there is a lack of new blood being attracted to the game. There is a lull in the population currently and the overall neocron experience has degraded due to that.

Some people love fighting the same 10 people in Pepper Park with their ppu dual logged in the safe zone.

Some people love going out by themselves hunting firemobs in the wastelands - others dont. They have done it time and time again.

It is pushing 10 months now nearly since NC was saved by the current dev team. That is a sterling effort. However I think that the community wanted something more to do in that time. Everyone has reached a point now where they have their rare guns, they have 10k+ rare parts, they have cash in the bank and epics completed and plenty spare to go around.

What they do not have is A) people to trade with B) people to fight with.

Due to the weather outside being nicer (in the Northern Hemisphere at least) and generally some people logging in less than others it creates a snowball effect. Due to the above - not having reasons to log in - more people are finding they spend less time in nc. If there is nothing to do but fight and that fight is only against the same ten people as stated then it gets stale.

NC needs new content. In order to get new content it needs people to spend time developing that. It needs new players also but in order to get them it needs people who have time to develop it.

Time is an infinite resource that man finds he never has enough of.

Due to our attention spans being shorter than the dev teams time to work on stuff we find ourselves amusing our brains in other ways or other games. This is not a knock on NC, it is just how we are programmed to work.

IF and when the new server (Sparta) goes live and more content hits NC I can bet you a pound to a pinch of shit that the populations will surge once again - just like always - and people will come back and play. Tonnes of people are waiting in the wings for something NEW to do.

NC is almost 13 years old now. We as a group have been everywhere and seen everything so we log in less because as hardcore as we are there just isnt anything new.

Other games, pubs, beer gardens and half naked girls now garner our attention more than NC does. Its not a criticism, it is just the way it is.

**Trivaldi** · 08-07-13, 13:14

Just in case anyone missed it, Vedeena will receive a new patch tonight which will address several issues and a preview of the content changes. Once tested and tweaked this will of course be heading to Titan.

**nabbl** · 08-07-13, 14:30

Originally Posted by William Antrim

and half naked girls now garner our attention

this!

I think I have to add something to the topic, otherwise this post will get marked as spam :P

Well... It is like always in summer. I can stay all day in front of my PC, sweating and half naked or I can go out and swim in the Rhein and see half naked girls.

As you see .. I like half naked girls.

But nevertheless I think that stuff is coming. Where are the patchnotes Triv ?

**Trivaldi** · 08-07-13, 14:42

Originally Posted by nabbl

Where are the patchnotes Triv ?

They will come along side the patch this evening in a dedicated topic.

**eNTi** · 08-07-13, 14:52

Originally Posted by Brammers

That would not be the main problem. The Neocron community is too small to be realistically split over more than one server.

running a private server is a huge undertaking and i can't see why anyone would do that. it's hard enough to get enough people excited about the current one. if anyone will split the current server population it's probably going to be sparta. just trash titan and let everyone start fresh on sparta. people want something to do, no? well... since titan is broken beyond repair anyway, just ditch the sucker and let every start on equal footing again.

**nabbl** · 08-07-13, 15:06

Originally Posted by eNTi

since titan is broken beyond repair anyway, just ditch the sucker and let every start on equal footing again.

best ... fckn ... idea... ever!

not.

**Trivaldi** · 08-07-13, 15:10

Originally Posted by eNTi

well... since titan is broken beyond repair anyway, just ditch the sucker and let every start on equal footing again.

I am curious as to why you think Titan is A) broken and B) beyond repair?

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