[T#185/186] Testserver Patch Discussion

[Kanedax]

What an absolutely stupid argument.

Your argument is equally stupid. This fits within the lore fine. You get red SL and you are listed as a terrorist. Logically it works out fine that you then are restricted almost all NC city services. As for your argument about "accidentally" getting really low SL, give me a break, I've only had red sl twice ever and I had to literally work at it. Getting very low SL isn't easy.

[PsiCorps]

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[Kanedax]

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[PsiCorps]

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[Faid]

People congratulating the SL changes seem to be people that I've never seen pvp outside of op wars.

lol and the only people complaining about it are the ones who Ive seen constantly ally pk-ing who, until now, have suffered very little consequences.

The changes are supposed to make you think about who you actually attack and kill. I get that most STD guys just want to attack and kill everyone everywhere and thats their playstyle which is fine, but there is a faction system in place and that system should mean something. Hopefully with these changes some stability will be returned to said system and the blatant ally pking will be nullified.

The positive effect I think this will have outweighs the potential for accidents and abuse.

[PsiCorps]

lol and the only people complaining about it are the ones who Ive seen constantly ally pk-ing who, until now, have suffered very little consequences.

The changes are supposed to make you think about who you actually attack and kill. I get that most STD guys just want to attack and kill everyone everywhere and thats their playstyle which is fine, but there is a faction system in place and that system should mean something. Hopefully with these changes some stability will be returned to said system and the blatant ally pking will be nullified.

The positive effect I think this will have outweighs the potential for accidents and abuse.

Please move to Tangent, then we'd lose very little soullight

[runner420]

guards infront of ca hq don't shoot.stood infront of them as tg with -91 CA symp not a single shot.

[demonssword]

lol and the only people complaining about it are the ones who Ive seen constantly ally pk-ing who, until now, have suffered very little consequences.

The changes are supposed to make you think about who you actually attack and kill. I get that most STD guys just want to attack and kill everyone everywhere and thats their playstyle which is fine, but there is a faction system in place and that system should mean something. Hopefully with these changes some stability will be returned to said system and the blatant ally pking will be nullified.

The positive effect I think this will have outweighs the potential for accidents and abuse.

Not all STD just want to kill everyone, and as said before in the topic sometimes we are the ones being attacked and in defending ourselves we win (I say "we" but its not me who is doing it :P). HOWEVER if there was a faction that was enemy to all other factions, Anarchy Breed for instance I think we would have swapped to there in a heartbeat.

One of the reasons we moved from FA to BT was that we wanted to fight people not green on green all the time.
So with FF being TT
SOAD and Infected being TG
T-B-C being CS
Finally TSU being enemy to us

DRE not active
SXR are NEXT so neutral
Fusion are CM also neutral
PPB were BD being neutral

No Protopharm clans
LG being the only active CA means we had only 1 green clan to deal with.

Even then on an RP / LORE perspective the idea of a BT clan wanting to become the alpha faction and not caring who they take down to do it is very very easy to work out.
The whole MC5 brainwashing facility
Wanting to take down TT to prove they are better and in doing so absorb them
Trying to slow down the space program until their brainwashing technique is perfected
Shutting down PP so people rely on implants and nanites from BT rather than doctors who want to make cyborg bodies.
If they want to be the leaders of the city they will have to deal with CA at some point, so why not weaken them while you can.

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EITHER WAY going just a bit off topic there, though I think it has been drawn off topic a while ago and people have already made their ideas about the SL changes already. But to refresh my opinion
SL lockout of GRs should be limited to only some GRs if at all, ones owned by your own clan, PP and outzone or in your own apartment should still work for you as should some others at minimum, though maybe have disposable tool to use it.
Maybe give them something like a hacktool what you can use to access to port you to your own app and from there you can port to other places using it. This would mean that you go in to hack like if you use the lv20 tool on a term. So no chance of fail, but takes you a bit longer to get in.

[Strife]

lol and the only people complaining about it are the ones who Ive seen constantly ally pk-ing who, until now, have suffered very little consequences.

Constantly? Really?

We've lost tens, upon tens of millions in rare weapons, hours upon hours of mission running, not to mention the time having to idle before you can even pvp in p2 so you don't go red SL from a accidental ally kill.