AoE Rifle for patch 175?

[Torg]

I think a rebalance is something which should be on agenda but i know there's alot more that needs looking into first.

Rebalancing? What classes or weapons would be too strong or weak? We must not confuse "balance" and "i want to roXXor the game easily with my favourite class". I believe things are pretty balanced these days. Maybe not perfect, but better than ever. Runspeed and clipping may be a problem, monks are not.

[Dropout]

Rebalancing? What classes or weapons would be too strong or weak? We must not confuse "balance" and "i want to roXXor the game easily with my favourite class". I believe things are pretty balanced these days. Maybe not perfect, but better than ever. Runspeed and clipping may be a problem, monks are not.

I dont get it.. Why do some people think that balance is good now..?

Maybe class vs. class balance is alright (but not really better - its just other classes that dominate now), but weapon balance is horrible..
Rifle users have Dissy and AK.
Pistol users have BHG and Xbow.
Heavy users have CS, Dev and Ioncannon.
Melee users have nothing.
APU's have Fire Apoc.

Thats not even close to balance IMO.

[Forget My Name]

Balance is all fucked up now.

I can take hits from a 90/90 fire mob with no problem, but 60/60 hoppers and 44/44(whatever) reaper spiders destroy me.

The game balance is all over the place.

[Chuck Norris]

Balance is all fucked up now.

I can take hits from a 90/90 fire mob with no problem, but 60/60 hoppers and 44/44(whatever) reaper spiders destroy me.

The game balance is all over the place.

You think thats bad, just dont go fight mobs that poison.... afaik droners are a necessary evil in 2.2... good luck doing mc5 or DoY tunnels with a team or even getting a team together to do something like that. without droners the item rate of rare cpus and illeagles/slot enhancers would be almost zero

[flib]

You think thats bad, just dont go fight mobs that poison.... afaik droners are a necessary evil in 2.2... good luck doing mc5 or DoY tunnels with a team or even getting a team together to do something like that. without droners the item rate of rare cpus and illeagles/slot enhancers would be almost zero

Those things should be fucking difficult to get. You should have to assemble a large, well-organized team to get them.

[William Antrim]

I am going to stick my neck out and say slot enhancers should not be that hard to get. They can only be used on store bought weapons. Therefore they are used for levelling weaponry 90% of the time. These should be simple to get to entice people to level in those places. The chips should be tougher yes but still doable.

[Chuck Norris]

ya ultimas and slot enhancers aside from psi modules are basically fo rleveling weapons since you can prett easily cap rare weapons and u cant use enhancers on them

[Linear]

Someone mentioned PPUs here... I hope you do know that due to strange current system of PPU getting team exp it's easier and faster to lvling solo? Otherwise you're forced to look a new team each 5-6 lvls, cuz you're getting lesser exp than they are, as a result they're lvling faster and stops giving you any exp. So if we are talking about AoE here, may I have AoE Soulcluster or at least PPU lvling system reworked please?

Back to topic: IMO we should separate things here - there is a fast lvling and usual gameplay. Which one suits you - for you to decide. It's still possible to spies with rifles, tanks with melee and ppus with soulclusters, and it doesn't take ages even, just slower.

[Dropout]

Someone mentioned PPUs here... I hope you do know that due to strange current system of PPU getting team exp it's easier and faster to lvling solo? Otherwise you're forced to look a new team each 5-6 lvls, cuz you're getting lesser exp than they are, as a result they're lvling faster and stops giving you any exp. So if we are talking about AoE here, may I have AoE Soulcluster or at least PPU lvling system reworked please?

Back to topic: IMO we should separate things here - there is a fast lvling and usual gameplay. Which one suits you - for you to decide. It's still possible to spies with rifles, tanks with melee and ppus with soulclusters, and it doesn't take ages even, just slower.

Yeah PPU leveling kinda went out the window with 2.2.. I didnt have any problems leveling my PPU as PPU in 2.1

[Faid]

ya ultimas and slot enhancers aside from psi modules are basically fo rleveling weapons since you can prett easily cap rare weapons and u cant use enhancers on them

Don't forget ion weapons ulties are sexy for those as well as slot enhancers