Neocron is....

[Apocalypsox]

It would suck if KK made like an EVE clone or something along those lines...oh wait.

you need to think more capitalism, Hell.
Successful clone of anything = income = development for other games = Neocron brought back full force. And i mean the neocron we all loved, not NC1 or NC2.

[flib]

Okay, seriously people; come on.
Just because it's a space mmo, that doesn't make it an EVE clone.
It's not even going to be the same style ffs!
Would you kindly, shut your shitspewhole? (directed at people who say BP is an EVE clone, not just Hell Demon)

[Asurmen Spec Op]

Many of you will have heard that several MMORPGs have closed their doors in recent times. Just a few days ago another AAA title, Tabula Rasa, announced that it will be closing down soon.
However, Neocron is still alive and has outlived many other MMORPGs. There has to be a reason for this and we'd like to know your thoughts.

We would like to hear in your words why you think Neocron has withstood the test of time. What brings you back to play the game again and again after all these years? What is so special about Neocron compared to other MMORPGs?

The cyberpunkness, the people, you


*points at sig*

[Setlec]

The cyberpunkness, the people, you


*points at sig*

Oo after reading this i'm quite worried aboutyou Asurmen! (just kidding)

[Doc Holliday]

And me. However, it's not something I've consciously thought about until you JUST mentioned it.



Yeah, the grind is too much for me now. I simply don't have the time to level my melee tank to cap any more. I only took him to about 60 STR... it's just so bloody slow, and dull now.



I will also be making a christmas comeback. So, I'll speak to you on vent soon



Hivemind vs Ginger anyone?



Excellent point. Again, not something I have consciously thought about, but looking back, I was definitely quite high on that pecking order for quite some time. There really were a famous few - couldn't go anywhere without people spamming me via direct and in local.



I semi agree here, and semi-disagree. I had characters on Pluto, Venus and Uranus. I mainly played on Uranus, but some of us didn't have several alts. I only ever played as Rabbi Fang - so regardless of the server I played on, I lived and died by that one character's reputation.

Oh, and Doc - I'll have to give you a shout at some point. Is your brother back for Christmas?

yarrrr. think so anyways. im playing ut3 now. given up with bf2 at least short term. a little tired of it. plus i have new comp which has financially broken me.

like the loreale its worth it

yeah. would fancy some nc again though. just a dip in maybe to have a shoot at some fools and see how it goes. the last couple times i kinda dropped in didnt really latch on and dropped out again fairly quick. most of my dudes are black dragon so i will see if anythings goin off and prob stay there and control pp or somthin.

i wish we could have gotten that off the ground.

i think i have your msn mate. not sure. if not pm me. will try and find a few hours one eve and have a butchers at it all again. is it still free?

im ok with paying of course but curious all the same.

[Asurmen Spec Op]

Oo after reading this i'm quite worried aboutyou Asurmen! (just kidding)

There were some awesome quotes from that event, I posted them somewhere on the forum...

[Nidhogg]

Back on topic please.

N

[naimex]

Wheee, christmas avvy's on mods and gms are back on

much happy to see them again

sorry Niddy. just didn't want to make an entirely new thread, just to say how happy i am to see the christmas avvys again


*notices a huge hammery-shaped shadow under his feet*





*runs away*

[zii]

pvp
atmosphere
no-LE (if you want to play that way - the choice is yours)
OPs
tunnels
people - all of them.

(I just wish that the Dome tunnels in the wastes would actually connect into a Waterprocessing unit or side street in the Dome. Along the route there would be a secret sneaky back passage with nasty mobs and with 2 penny whores whipping Droms with wee crabs and a bar run by the friendly mutants who used to be in pp3. I like waterprocessing)

[Seraphin[69]]

The PVP system is awesome and the atmosphere is soooo great.

The only problem I see is the cheaters. They are always the reason I'm taking a break from the game !

[gstyle40]

The PVP system is awesome and the atmosphere is soooo great.

The only problem I see is the cheaters. They are always the reason I'm taking a break from the game !

same here, as goes for 99% of my clanmates

[SilentEye]

Does anyone remember BETA 4? There was a purple Heavy Combat tank there I think called Napalm. He wielded a flamethrower and pwned anyone that entered Pepperpark 1. The whole damned floor was filled with backpacks

Also I've been in the early start of NC1 playing my PE Pistoleer, running around Pepperpark with some friends. We found this wall with a crack in it and we wanted to get through but we didn't fit. So we got our selfs a Gen Tank as a friend and bought some shabby grenades from the store.

He threw the grenades at the wall 1 by 1 but nothing happened!

These are the things that do it for me!

[FarSight]

Many of you will have heard that several MMORPGs have closed their doors in recent times. Just a few days ago another AAA title, Tabula Rasa, announced that it will be closing down soon.
However, Neocron is still alive and has outlived many other MMORPGs. There has to be a reason for this and we'd like to know your thoughts.

We would like to hear in your words why you think Neocron has withstood the test of time. What brings you back to play the game again and again after all these years? What is so special about Neocron compared to other MMORPGs?

Thing that hooked me to neocron was no existance of manual.
But first some history.
<HISTORY>
Im about 35 years old, im from Poland. When i got my first computer (Atari 800XL) i was 14 and it was 1988. It was still 1+ year before communist system breakdown. We didnt learn english in schools we learned russian. So i got computer and i bought first games (of coz on black market bcuz copyrights doesnt exeisted in communism). All that games were in english and were w/o manuals, simple some guys were copying tapes. Playing any game that times was like exploring new world, nights i spend with my computer and english dictionary are countless. I very liked it. Basicaly you launched a game and besides options like New Game etc you doesnt understand anything, it was up to you to explore it, gain knowledge, learn it, get fun of it.
</HISTORY>
Now back to neocron. I started it in Nc1 B4. There were no manuals , even ingame help (like ? buttons on skills screen) was wrong. I entered neocron world with zero knowledge of its mechanics and world itself. It was fascinating time travel in time 14 years back. it was all up to me to learn the game (yes there was some ppl called NCAT but they were few), i was really excited and happy when i discovered smt new about neocron world. Everyday i learned smt and everyday i was knowing its sooo much more to learn. If i recall good i was playing B4 and early NC1 every day like 12-16h per day (at home and at work - i was network admin those days). Purpose ... thats everything i need to keep playing and it never be more stats, more equipment or smt, its all about exploring and knowledge of game. When i gained enought knowledge of game, explored near all possible places, played all classes, were quite good in pvp, reason for playing everyday dies. Now i play like 1-2 months per year, but i visit forums like 1 time a week, thats i think my tribute to best MMORPG game i played ever period
Now some specific things:
- combat system: good. I played many fps games like (Q3, RtCW,ET,CSS) some of them on quite high competition level (ClanBase EuroCup or NationsCup). I like that NC involves real aim skill. Mayby only target tracking but you can do it better than your opponent or you die, its not real aim skill but it gives chance for player with high ping (in normal fps games you fire when you aim, there is of coz smt like spread with machineguns etc but not so riddiculus like in NC). Anyway combat is at certain level skill based not stat based
- tradeskill system: not so good. All the time i wondered why KK made skill based combat system and didnt make skill based tradeskill system (now its stats + lotto based). Its too simply. I imagine tradeskill system that involves player skills, experience (not ingame exp points) and wiisdom. System that make difference between output of 2 players with identical stats and not based on lotto. Something that promotes ppl devoted to tradeskill, not only ppl who put same amount of points in hacking for eg. I do not wish that KK implement Borland C 3.1 compiler into NC and demand from players who play hacker so hardcore knowledge, but smt that promote hours, days, months spend on doing smt to get knowledge and experience. Smt like cnster need to spend big amount of money and time to get perfect drug mixture, hacker need a time to get knowledge of hacking to make universal hackcubes for (why this wasnt implemented ? Hacker make hackcubes that open certain hck lvl switches? why hacker cant hack doors etc from apart ?) and sell them on market? There is so much possibilites to promote player wisdom & experience not only stats. Lets make it as it is so everyone and his dog.. sry drom can make pure cnster and make stuff like now, but put in cnsting process advanced tab for manipulating process for ppl who invested time to know what and how manipulate. Average Joe and his drom will not use it and it will give edge for real tradeskillers. Its not so hard.
- LE system: good but not soo good as it was. Now there is no penalty for using LE. I really liked NC1 B4 penalty (higher requiments on items) for LE users. If you want be a LED, ok but you will not advance as fast as w/o LE. I will dont forget plaza sewers filled with smt like 20-30 ppl doing same bees/rats/plants missions and fighting for it, stilleto fights, unlabeled grenade fights, unlabeled shotgun fights, so much fun in really low lvl PVP
- world: cool, big but too empty and too expectable, not too much mini quests not worth doing anyway, no mobs migrations (you know what sectors are safe and what not)
- outposts: useless now, only two reasons to fight for them is ego or block GR to good lvling grounds, so ego anyway
- KK events (not player made events) : bad, too much mob assault events, not too much events like Laurent Hooversmt triangulation event (unfinished afaik)
- patches: funny , after every patch i test if KK didnt changed CS into AoE weapon lol

Conclusion: NC is not so far from universal game for thinking and skilled ppl but KK need to make a move. You let it be, we will play time to time, you make it better for us we will play more, you did this pool to know what implement in BP ? Screw You

And yes my english skill is still far from cap lolz

[Sydalesis]

by far the best mmo to ever exist, and even today's standards dont come close. Neocron is the only game where i felt my chars had a role and could twist the universe/storyline.

It's also the most immersive game, best original soundtrack to be ever created for any game period. It has the best graphical style and it was the place to be between 2001 and the advent of nc2.

yeah Tabula Rasa died cause it has no soul, no depth, it's just a casual arcade shooter for dummys. It proves that a big name, 200 million dollars and a huge dev team dont mean good game, it's one of the worst game i have ever played.

[Neallys]

Why Do I come back in neocron...


...Feeding my ego?

It's hungry, the more the days go on, the more hungry it is...



Tho I'd like to say Neocron lost a lot of fun, not totally related to the topic. PvE really needs changes big time. We can't call this a MMORPG if everyone is soloing caves with their LE droners. PvP has to be adjusted (i'm sure It wouldn't
take more than a day to adjust that). Factionboard evoluting and sometimes, changing, wouldn't be bad (RP!). And of course, the last but not least, Reakktor finally realizes Neocron is unique, and deserve work, even as a new game (engine?), if you got players who keep coming back saying "Neocron is the best MORPG I have ever played", it's not for nothing, I guess.