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    Default HAB tc

    None of the other anti-spells can do this however.
    ^^ Lifewaster

    Update :
    Sorry, i have gave you wrong informations.
    The Unprotector works like intended.

    so only the unprotector sopposed to do this?

    Not the Anti Shield/heal etc etc


    . Or are they bugged and ment to do this also

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    Please make them all self cast...
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    The Holy Unprotector is a very powerfull psi modul,
    thats why we think that the user must have a little risk
    if he try to remove all shields from other players.

    I move this thread to the "first impressions" forum,
    where you can discuss this feature.

    Did you think its necessary that a ppu have a protection for casting this modul on himself ? (like group damageboost or group parashock)

    Are there positive effects from the selfcast feature ?

    Do you think all shield+heal remover must be selfcastable ?
    Last edited by Carnage; 31-01-07 at 11:24.

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    One question, what happens when the PPU mis-casts rather than self-casts? Does he also stipped of his shields and heal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brammers
    One question, what happens when the PPU mis-casts rather than self-casts? Does he also stipped of his shields and heal?
    Miss-casts only happens when you are not in line of sight to your target or
    when you move out of range while you casting the modul.
    In both cases the cast will miss and no shield will be removed from you or your opponent.

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    I think that all anti-something spells should be self castable. Atleast then ppus would have to be more carefull and well get less spamming of such anti spells.

    Gets my support
    Let hc PE's gun all 4x4 vechicle guns without drugs (make HC/melee PE's viable).
    Fix some chips (e.g moveon and marine).
    Put the noob stealth back to 10 sec (or give pe's another 10 sec stealth).
    Make more sense into the negatives on chips (they mostly don't make sense).
    Give PE's a better heal (e.g tl30ish)

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    I'm in 2 minds about the stripping of the shields and heals, when self-casting or missing a cast.

    Self-casting, yes thats good.

    Mis-casting does not currently strip your own shields and heal. If it did strip you own shields and heal, it could be interesting in an op-fight. It would mean one dead PPU, as I'm sure everyone would just aim for the PPU when they hear the anti-buff sound. (Or see the anti-buff anination, but don't hear the sound - I'm not sure which way round it is, so I'll have to check this one.)

    I'm sure the nerf PPU's crowd would love the holy unprotector mis-cast to strip a PPU of his own shields and heal, but I think for now, I prefer only the self-cast to strip the PPU's shields and heal.

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    Did i get something wrong?

    I was under the understanding that miscasts didn't strip anything from anyone.
    Let hc PE's gun all 4x4 vechicle guns without drugs (make HC/melee PE's viable).
    Fix some chips (e.g moveon and marine).
    Put the noob stealth back to 10 sec (or give pe's another 10 sec stealth).
    Make more sense into the negatives on chips (they mostly don't make sense).
    Give PE's a better heal (e.g tl30ish)

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    Quote Originally Posted by awkward silence
    Did i get something wrong?

    I was under the understanding that miscasts didn't strip anything from anyone.
    No you didn't it's probably me confusing you!

    Carnage says it doesn't. I was posting a "what if" sort of post.

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    The rare version (holy unprotector?) does that.

    Miss the target, pop your own shields. I love that.


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    please remember that a miss-cast is not a selfcast.
    A cast only fails if your target move out of the line of sight or out of range, while you cast.

    A selfcast is only if you start the cast without aiming a target.

    Again, actually the holy unprotector only remove your own shields if you start the cast without a target.

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    Just FYI to anyone reading , the holy unprotector in 2.2 doesnt remove heal...it only removes shields....to remove a heal you must use the anti-heal spell.


    Regarding the self-cast , I think its a useful feature , and should be applied to all of the PPU modules. ie:anti-heal , para, DB.....

    Realisticly, its not a huge negative to PPUs , since if you are casting HAB in a fight its usually a situation where you are not personally under fire.

    So it simply makes what we politely term as "offensively minded PPUS" (or less politely as PARA/DB whores) a bit more vulnerable. Remembering that Para/DB has been hugely nerfed in 2.2 thus all the para/db whores will be likely converting to Antibuff whores in 2.2 anyway...so giving them the opportunity to get themselves killed when they do so without adequate aiming is probably a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage
    very powerfull psi modul
    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage
    the user must have a little risk
    Para please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogface
    Para please
    Amazing idea and i'd love to see that implemented. No more mindless para spamming becuase you miss, you fuck yourself over.


    Sweet idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SorkZmok
    Amazing idea and i'd love to see that implemented. No more mindless para spamming becuase you miss, you fuck yourself over.


    Sweet idea.

    same

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