Resists, armor and SD

**pabz** · 07-03-06, 13:00

I would really like if they added ingame indication of how good your resists are, since i think it's strange that you need a skillmanager to work it out. Maybe they could have an extension on the armor windows, with extra columns showing armor + resists and armor + resists + current SD.

**F3Speech** · 07-03-06, 13:56

yeah since they have already said that the numbers the skill managers give are wrong.

**Dribble Joy** · 07-03-06, 14:41

Not really necessary. Hopefully the new system should be a bit simpler/linear and you should be able to roughly work out how much total defence you have.

**pabz** · 07-03-06, 15:03

Originally Posted by Dribble Joy

Not really necessary. Hopefully the new system should be a bit simpler/linear and you should be able to roughly work out how much total defence you have.

I'd also like to see how dmg % of shelter effects defense. Atm it's too hit and miss with con setups, and I'd hate to be a noob having to work out how con works

**Dribble Joy** · 07-03-06, 15:06

There might be the possibility that like with the skill system, they might give us the basic relationships between armour reisists and overall dmg absorbtion.

**pabz** · 07-03-06, 18:19

Perhaps dirus could work this into the balancing thingy. What is your opinion dirus?

**Hahnrich** · 07-03-06, 18:36

Originally Posted by Emissary

yeah since they have already said that the numbers the skill managers give are wrong.

I've tested it for ENR with a Ravager on many different Armor and Resists Setups (No SD). All numbers given from the skill manager are correct as well as the SP view.

**Dribble Joy** · 07-03-06, 19:02

skill managers are based on ems.ru, which is wrong, officially wrong.

Dirus vaguely mentioned a while ago, that when they rework the armour system, they might possibly give us the way it works.

**Brammers** · 07-03-06, 19:20

Originally Posted by Hahnrich

I've tested it for ENR with a Ravager on many different Armor and Resists Setups (No SD). All numbers given from the skill manager are correct as well as the SP view.

Which skill manager are you using? AlphaGremlins?

**Zheo** · 07-03-06, 22:34

Originally Posted by Hahnrich

I've tested it for ENR with a Ravager on many different Armor and Resists Setups (No SD). All numbers given from the skill manager are correct as well as the SP view.

Originally Posted by Dirus

neocron.ems.ru is wrong on a number of key issues, while it may have been correct when it was written not much of it is true anymore.

Dirus was replying to my thread about armour and resists, and as far as i know all skill managers use neocron.ems.ru to work out resists.

**Dirus** · 07-03-06, 23:46

A few examples as to where neocron.ems.ru is offbase.

The amount of the player's "Steel Skin" is wrong.

The armor amounts vs defense amount is not as "linear" as its made out to be.

The numbers given for the Shelter/Deflector bonuses are wrong.

The entire NPC Armor calc where it's 2*Rank is wrong. This was killed when I gave all NPC's their own unique resists.

As for a visible defense % being added to the game. I'll see what I can do to get that pushed into the game.

**pabz** · 08-03-06, 00:20

Originally Posted by Dirus

As for a visible defense % being added to the game. I'll see what I can do to get that pushed into the game.

Thnx!

Finally the mystery of con will be unravelled

**Kierz** · 08-03-06, 00:48

why can't every post from kk be like dirus' he's so cool

**Dribble Joy** · 08-03-06, 01:32

I'm not sure we really need it... but eh...

**RogerRamjet** · 08-03-06, 01:37

Skill manager is only useful for assigning points.

Neofrag is alot better for testing resists.

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