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    So 3 threads popped up recently with lots of good discussion about the game but they all have a common theme when you boil away the arguments, criticism and the passion showed for the game.

    Nobody actually knows the full story. Only one person actually apparently has any idea and everyone else seems to be unable to say "more than they should".

    What is stopping complete transparency on this whole project? What is the problem with being 100% honest about the state of the game?

    There is no commercial reason, there are no subscribers or shareholders, there is no market to compete with. There is no need for secrecy but yet it continues. It encourages speculation and negativity, neither of which are good for the project as a whole.

    Why is that?
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    unclarity around ownership and legal accountability combined with a reluctance to address either as it might endanger the status quo.
    ... of course, that is just an uneducated guess.
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    That's exactly the problem, it leads to speculation and negativity. It's akin to burying your head in the sand and doesn't exactly lend itself to inspiration.


    Loads of people want to help but how can they when they don't know how and why is information withheld, it serves no purpose.

    It just seems so futile when some decent discussion and optimism has sprung up recently.
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    honestly... i think the nst just wants to keep to themselves and not have any form of criticisms towards their free time involvement. every other sentence that's being written as either an indirect or direct critique starts with: we are so grateful that you spend your valuable time on this project but...

    it really makes the situation worse. why should i be grateful for something i don't care about... and if all the nst is doing is purely on a voluntary basis, why does triv still talk to us as if he was pr? why would he apologize constantly for stuff he has obviously no control over?

    i'm starting to think that all this is for naught... we know a little more what is going on behind the scenes but we have no idea how this all will turn out. a lot of people obviously still care about the game but i can't see a future where i want to play it again. i will certainly come back to the forums every odd month or so... like the last few years... and check for some progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eNTi View Post
    honestly... i think the nst just wants to keep to themselves and not have any form of criticisms towards their free time involvement. every other sentence that's being written as either an indirect or direct critique starts with: we are so grateful that you spend your valuable time on this project but...

    Let's be fair it is a big undertaking to run an mmo with a near skeleton crew, so we do have to give some credit. It is also the undoing of this game. The team simply can't do enough, there is no monetary incentive and we don't know what the long term goal of this is. Get more people to play?

    And then...???
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    I really need to count the usage of the word "legal" per post written by a special forum member Anyway.

    The main goal is to keep Neocron running as long as possible and while we're trying to keep things up we do some random work in the meanwhile.

    It may not sound that promising in the firts place but do not underestaminate 'random work'.

    I am honest: I didn't spent much time in the last months because of some heavy workload in RL so there is no huge progress in the remaining 5-10% (= I need to do until the client/server is ready to work with the balancing changes) but at least I am not the entire team.
    I hate to repeat myself that's why I don't write about the things I did since the last post... because there is nothing new so far.

    Things I did so far:

    • I/O improvement on the server side - some of the 'readonly' stuff is now cached in RAM
    • Finetunings in the tool I called "Balancing playground" - It contains all the new playerskill calculations which influences the weapon damage, handling and aim - for example: Tank - STR, DEX, WEP, HC, TC, etc..
    • Changes in the DEFs and code: weapons do have a 'family' now. For example: baseball bat and peacemaker are part of the same family
    • A new proxy software which is still work in progress
    • A new tool to replace textures of actors without rebaking them - Because we didn't have all the source files - KK simply lost them
    • A rework of our internal 'Neocron Suite'
    • A tool which allows us to reorganize the existing weapons -> Weapon Families
    • Some bugsfixes in our definition-database service (to handle DEFs - read+write)
    • Some refactorings in the code to align with our guidelines



    Our content and assets team are working on several things like new missions and graphical changes etc. - It's just awesome but I don't wanna spoil something yet, It's there job Wait I do repeat myself: IT'S AWESOME


    Quote Originally Posted by eNTi
    honestly... i think the nst just wants to keep to themselves and not have any form of criticisms towards their free time involvement. every other sentence that's being written as either an indirect or direct critique starts with: we are so grateful that you spend your valuable time on this project but...
    You're right. Every single team member is just a clone of Kim Jong Un.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustVisiting View Post
    wow... i just wow... i don't even have an answer for such responses.

    I'll just make it clear I never questioned your abilities however bifrost did make it clear that there was an ipv6 transport issue which believe it or not isn't a DNS issue.
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    Thats not fully true.
    They said that gmail wanted to communicate in IPv6. That does not point to a transport issue. It still could be possible they don't get a IPv4 Adress back when resolving DNS.
    You don't know. They did not mentioned why it wants to communicate in IPv6.

    2. You are not helping either.
    Help means fixing a Problem in an existing System and not to say "change your system, it is bad."Just because you do not preffer it.

    3. A good configuerd Exchange Server does not need a lot maintenance either.
    Our Company has exhange too and it runs and runs. No Problems there.
    You said it like a fact. But its "just" your opinion. Fact != Opinion.

    And license costs? If they already own some licenses it costs 0$. So why not use it?

    And before anyone says something.
    I have some Debian Servers running too, cause i like playing around on Linux systems too. So no MS fanboying.

    @ Zoltan, just keep going. As you said. MS is not the bad monopolist


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    Let's not snipe each other gents, this is brainport. Community talk is the other end of the forum. However getting down to details of what is delaying things is a great insight for all of us. Even if people don't all understand the issues at heart it really helps to know that there are people who do.

    Keep up the good work, it is appreciated by everyone.
    "dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"

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    *Pokes head into thread. Sees a ton of computer/tech talk that looks like walls of mumbo jumbo.*

    *Slowly backs out of thread.*
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