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    Dear Runners,

    we need your feedback on some of our ideas spooking around in our heads for Phase Two, please have a look at the full blog post. You will also be able to find some minor details on the next patch inside that post.

    So tell us, what do you think about the armor system, the removal of localization of armor bonuses and armor modding?

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    I like the first suggestion very much. The regional damage type thing does not make much sense. Especially when you have almost no options to choose from.

    But can you give us an example of the "Armor-Mod-System"? Let's say I have some Heavy Kevlar armor. Can I simply mod them so they have less fire but more poison resists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nabbl View Post
    But can you give us an example of the "Armor-Mod-System"? Let's say I have some Heavy Kevlar armor. Can I simply mod them so they have less fire but more poison resists?
    I understand that it will be like weapon mods, so +resists or resist type. A welcomed change IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nabbl View Post
    I like the first suggestion very much. The regional damage type thing does not make much sense. Especially when you have almost no options to choose from.

    But can you give us an example of the "Armor-Mod-System"? Let's say I have some Heavy Kevlar armor. Can I simply mod them so they have less fire but more poison resists?
    In some sense, yes. The details have still to be worked out, but before spending too much manpower on that and working in a direction which the com does not want, we thought we better share those ideas first of all.

    The first idea/system which came to my mind was: each armor part has a basic resistance value and a basic distribution, this distribution you can alter by plugging in mods. So instead of having a part with 100 points fire resists you could have an armor part with 50 fire 50 poison for example.
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    The old armor system was way better imo. You already mentioned in the Blog how pieces like the Viper King Armor or Heavy Belts are just not worth it anymore. The old system would add more diversity in the setups.
    While you are at the removal of comma values for implats, could you do the same for the armor parts too? (And buffs, while you are at it)
    And, being part of the whole armor stuff, it would be nice for good alternatives for PAs (Armor mods that add skill boni, while reducing the defensive stats of the armor for example)... style is everything
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alduin View Post
    In some sense, yes. The details have still to be worked out, but before spending too much manpower on that and working in a direction which the com does not want, we thought we better share those ideas first of all.

    The first idea/system which came to my mind was: each armor part has a basic resistance value and a basic distribution, this distribution you can alter by plugging in mods. So instead of having a part with 100 points fire resists you could have an armor part with 50 fire 50 poison for example.
    Sounds good

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    How about adding some rare armor to the game that needs to be constructed from tech parts with the possibility for slots. You could also add a color mod to change the color of the armor, that would be baddass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faid View Post
    How about adding some rare armor to the game that needs to be constructed from tech parts with the possibility for slots. You could also add a color mod to change the color of the armor, that would be baddass
    how about balance game

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    Quote Originally Posted by $tormbringer View Post
    And, being part of the whole armor stuff, it would be nice for good alternatives for PAs (Armor mods that add skill boni, while reducing the defensive stats of the armor for example)... style is everything
    Did you see the hint in another thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by Faid View Post
    You could also add a color mod to change the color of the armor, that would be baddass
    Hmmm.......
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    I see some guys with pink armors in my mind :P fuck cinema in my head

    But I like the idea of getting back to the old system but add mods for armor. This will help the APU to be no fast frag meat if he is primary target

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    Quote Originally Posted by MayhemMichael View Post
    how about balance game
    Didn't you hear? Balancing is done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faid View Post
    Didn't you hear? Balancing is done
    That would be great ;P

    Back to topic please! We need feedback!
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    Armor modding makes my imagination go wild! Thats good!
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    reducing complexity in areas where it does not hurt, e.g. hitzone armour separation, sounds like the right idea.
    even reducing complexity where it does impact negatively might be a considerable trade-off if it in turn increases dev velocity measurably.

    not sure if armour modding is really worth the effort though. adding a sufficient, but fixed amount of armour variants is bound to be easier to implement and balance.
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