Is Neocron really a PvP game?

[Torg]

Dears!

Since there are plenty of old and new players roaming the wastelands today, allow me a (re-occurring) question: Is Neocron really a PvP game? I think we can get a pretty clear picture by gathering all opinions and views on that matter.

Let me start this by advising you to take the (famous) Bartle-Test. Please post your results in your comments and add your answer to the following question (in order of importance) What is most important to me: Killing other players. Exploring the world and seeing all cool places. Banding and working together with other players. Becoming big and important.

I will post my Bartle-results and answers later in this thread, so you can reply without prejudice.

[Vid Gamer]

It's a PvP game.

/thread

[BlueRobot]

I don't think this test works for Neocron, since it's not your standart MMO/WoW clone.

And why would you want to ask that stupid question anyway?

[Juppe]

I did the test! haha..
Motto was "No enemy left standing!"
Killer 93%, Achiever 47%, Socializer 40%, Explorer 20%.. so does that mean neocron is pvp game?

[Dribble Joy]

It's an MMO, it's an RPG, it's a PvP game. And they all mix to a lesser or greater extend depending on the player's preferences.

I still consider myself an RP-PvPer as a generalisation.

[Shaikura]

Its both but its not forced on you. The choice has always been yours to make. That's why its a great game.

[Invi]

gather around kids:

PvP is a big and very important part of PvE. and PvE is a very important part of PvP. If you are out there, killing warbots - you got to watch your back. Better dont be a drunk bastard in the OOC chat, else you will get shot doing your WOC. also that GenRep thats so close to your desired leveling spot? controlled with PvP combat.

PvP gives depth to PvE.

Then there is PvE giving depth to PvP. Having a high level character, farming PvP gear, gearing new members of a clan, (crafting) etc.. that stuff that PvP games like planetside dont have. yea.. huge part of the game.

i was pretty decent PvP wise back in 2.0. Op fighting, MB ganking.. did not do much PvE content at all towards the end. oh boy.. my tank and my PPU buddy killed every APU & PPU team out there at the time. no exceptions. gooood times.

but ONLY shooting people was never the reason for me playing this game. it was everything around PvP that made PvP fun. Killing that one guy over and over and over again, because he killed that low level guy in your clan. shooting away people in front of the CPR. sneaking over to the dome and run into guards like an idiot while enemy runners are shooting at you.. making roleplayers give you money or else you kill them.

all that stuff that only exists when there is actual PvE content.

PvP in neocron by itself is dull, not as skillbased as most think it is, and characterised by outdated game "mechanics".

people who say this is a PvP game /thread are insecure and want to disassociate oneselfs from roleplayers, mainly because they are insecure about their sexuality in the OOC chat.

naaaah im just kidding. its a pvp game. pve is for carebears.

[Torg]

Is Neocron really a PvP game? I think we can get a pretty clear picture by gathering all opinions and views on that matter.

From the lively discussion in this thread we mainly can learn 2 things: 1. you guys come up with quite a few different ideas on what Neocron means to you, and 2. most of you cant read.

I was asking for your opinion, so we can talk about what Neocron would be. I wasnt giving you any opinion.

For means of transparency, this is my Bartle result: Explorer 87% Socializer 60% Achiever 40% Killer 13% - ESAK
In fact i love exploring the world of neocron, going everywhere, even showing places and ways to others. An i insist on some degree of roleplay. And i enjoy the occasional OP fight. Well, at least i will enjoy this again (like i did) as soon as i find more time for playing NC, beyond 30 mins of farming every other day.

I believe that theres room for PvP-only players aplenty in NC, while the main part of the game is non-PvP. Like capping your char, making money, getting your shit together. Social skills are a huge advantage in NC, as is the urge of finding out whatever things.

(And, Roger: you cant read either. re-occurring. of course i've been asking this before.)

[ZeuZ_LoD]

According to that Bartle-Test, I scored:

73% Achiever
53% Killer
53% Socializer
20% Explorer

[Zoltan]

Killer

• Killer: 87%
• Explorer: 40%
• Socializer: 40%
• Achiever: 33%

"No enemy left standing!"

[Divide]

If you are playing this game for the PVE, you are leading a pretty sad existance.

Killer

/edit:

K-87
A-40
S-40
E-33

/second edit:

Nice score, Z-dogg.

[Doc Holliday]

opening an ambiguous thread that doesnt really ask questions and has also been asked before and then when the target audience responds the reply is you are illiterate. Hmmm.

Bored 100 %
every other category 0%

Thats my score on this thread.

Maybe try rewording the opener so it is easier for these tiny minds to grasp at and then ask the question.

Or dont.

[Michael Corvin]

Explorer - 87%
Socializer - 67%
Achiever - 60%
Killer 60%

NC is a MMOFPSPVPPVERPG =D

[J45]

Neocron has become more and more of a PvP game. I would say mainly due to the lack expansions/additional content. The current content has been there for 5-10 years how can older players keep on doing PvE even if they wanted to. The great thing about PvP is that each experience is unique so it enables a game like Neocron to keep alive.

[Agent L]

[...] add your answer to the following question (in order of importance) What is most important to me: Killing other players. Exploring the world and seeing all cool places. Banding and working together with other players. Becoming big and important.

You are making the same mistake that authors of the test did. Assuming the game is about interaction between a player and the world. It is not.
Multiplayer game is about interaction between players. The world is merely a background for it. NC highlights this point: the world is small, the itamz are easily obtainable, the xp is quick, the clans form and disband easily - and you can be a successful and recognised player without any of those, without ever leaving Plaza1.

NC was nicknamed "mirc 3d" and it's most accurate. It's about interpersonal relations and the game simply does not get in a way of it. NC succeeds when Even Second Life failed because it's world was too big and offered too much distractions which drew ppl apart instead of together.

NC is strictly PvP - but here PvP has much broader meaning than just combat/competition/aggression.

Bartle-Test

wtf? 30 questions, each taking a minute to load. Is this a test for patience? I'll post my results... in a time.

This is a really stupid test:

Which would you rather have, as a player on an MMORPG?:
- Your own house, worth millions of gold coins
- A private channel, over which you and your friends can communicate

Did this guy ever heard about the internet?

My results:
"No stone unturned!"
Explorer 80%
Socialiser 60%
Killer 47%
Achever 20%
Yeah, explorer my ass.