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    Last time when I was playing NC my friend visited me. She was quite intrigued about the game and world so I think we will gain one more player soon But it's not point of this thread. When I was droning in aggie cellars we met acolyte mob that naturally dropped a firebolt on my drone.
    Then the discussion started - how to explain existence of such 'magic' if the neocron world is earth but many years in the future? We went through parapsychology (pyrokinesis, cryokinesis etc.) but its was not very good explanation. If its just power of the mind and such powers could be found in everyone, why use glove implant then? It would be more logical if brain implant would cause possibility of using the thermal control.

    We found some logical explanation after some brainstorming - glove is a tool to produce a cloud of nanobots that can be launched in the air, causing some effects. Set of nanobots is changed by replacing core module (a spell). To not increase the weight of glove, nanobots are powered by electricity produced by human brain.

    -fire: nanites emit laser light that concentrated onto object raise its temperature till self-ignite.
    -poison: bots collect pollution from air and concentrated launch it at target.
    -energy: bots just discharge self to launch energy bolt onto target

    shields (deflector, absorber, etc): bots emit energyfield same way as energyfield belts.
    buffs: bots stimulates implants of the target to achieve additional benefits. Since limited power of bots, effect is limited.

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    http://www.techhaven.org/neocron-official-history.html see at 2523 date.

    The glove is only a way to up the psychic power and permit to all to use psy . you take energy in the psi pool , you use some of your psy and physical power for this and concentrate in the glove.

    I found your explaination interessing but nanobot is nanite tool, maybe you concentrate some element in the air for some spell.
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    The Official Neocron History (as linked above) does a great job of explaining how PSI exists, this will of course receive a new official home once we launch our new website at www.neocron-game.com.
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    The existence of psychokinesis has always fascinated humans, scientific evidence at least shows observation does affect matter at the quantum level, it could make sense then, that humans might discover the mechanism in our brains or minds, which causes this manipulation. If we discovered this in the future, we would probably find a way to amplify it using something like a glove

    something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiL T View Post
    scientific evidence at least shows observation does affect matter at the quantum level
    Only because the act of observing a quantum state means measuring, which means you have to interact with it causing a change. E.g. to look at a particle you need to detect photons bounced off it which means the particle has to have been hit and therefore changed by the photon. There's nothing magical about the observer effect.

    Er, I mean, it's radiation and mutation innit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nidhogg View Post
    Only because the act of observing a quantum state means measuring, which means you have to interact with it causing a change. E.g. to look at a particle you need to detect photons bounced off it which means the particle has to have been hit and therefore changed by the photon. There's nothing magical about the observer effect.

    Er, I mean, it's radiation and mutation innit!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuv6hY6zsd0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snSIRJ2brEk

    Are they particles or a wave, or both?

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    Well the strange thing is, (to me at least) in that MIT video of light photons being captured on video, is that the only reason we can see them is because they are bouncing off other particles in the air, or so they say. Yet they appear to move in a straight line, would this mean that, if they could shorten the time the laser is on, the light would dissipate before ever reaching the camera? If so, where does this light actually go? Does it become another form of energy?

    If we assume that everything is energy, then what is energy? How are we able to dream when we sleep, where does the light in our dreams come from, how do we know that this waking life isn't just like a dream?

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    Interesting, I didn't know the game had so much lore to it. Can all of that be found in-game? I didn't think the game was so texty, even with all the faction quests and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiL T View Post
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