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    lol Kanedax. Have they improved with the PVP zoneline antics or is it the same old same old? The lack of a good quality fight is what put most people off nc I think.

    Its a sad day when the community is the biggest nail in the coffin of progress. The dev team do an outstanding job and the community fuck it all up with such ridiculous antics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MayhemMichael View Post
    The best thing for Neocron would be to release the server code to the community. Let us be serious for a second. The only reason they haven't done this yet is because there is still somewhat glimmer of hope that money can still be via subscriptions or some other donation item methods.
    I couldn't agree more.There still IS a possibility to generate income off Neocron 2 IF you put a lot of hard & focussed work into it (getting the GFX to a whole new level,increase things to do and what not..)but we all know that from a businessman's POV: thats anything but profitable and is unlikely.

    Instead of letting the game die like Sony/LA did with SWG,handing out the source would be the nod towards the community many,many people were waiting for.Talented peeps with dedication and enough drive to accomplish something with that would renew the lifecycle of NC,paving the way for a certain company to be the Phoenix out of the ashes if they manage to pull up part 3.

    There were countless Ultima Online shards but the official re-opened servers are still used & populated so even if you got homemade-competition,if you're good in doing what you do then people will come back "home".

    Treating Neocron as a "product" or a "money printing machine" that needs to be locked away until god-know's-when is the wrong aproach,it's far more than that.For some,it became the ideal game despite all its flaws and they want nothing else than a game that is/was just like NC.

    Rescuing Neocron with 90's mentality didn't work out,try the 2013+ approach.

    Also:who mentioned Shadow Harvest?
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    @William

    The zone whoring is actually worse now because if there is anyone to fight at all it's a full op team of 10 people with at least 1 ppu. Kthxbai

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanedax View Post
    @William

    The zone whoring is actually worse now because if there is anyone to fight at all it's a full op team of 10 people with at least 1 ppu. Kthxbai
    Simples. No safe zones anywhere

    I'm sure back in the day even Plaza 1 was a free fire zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roburn Bliss View Post
    Simples. No safe zones anywhere

    I'm sure back in the day even Plaza 1 was a free fire zone.
    Well, with dynamic safezones now, they could easily experiment with it. Why don't we try having no safezones for a day or two and just see what happens?

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    If you want to kill what little atmosphere is left then you could go no safe zones. There would would be no more pokers / tradeskillers who werent LE'd hanging around anywhere, everyone would stick to their appys. Do people just hang out casually in p2 or PP? Nope. This is what killed Techhaven, turning it into a non safe zone pretty much guaranteed that no one would ever hang out there. People need a place to just hang out and not worry about being killed, a place to focus on bullshitting and tradeskilling.

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    Faction HQ's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix View Post
    A directed dig, I'll admit. But the point still stands. No, I don't know others' skill level and I've never said I have any dev skill myself. But why is he complaining about it, when to our knowledge, he has no knowledge? Oh? He does know something about programming and the like? Well, then put it to good use and stop bitching about others' work.

    And the people that did step up? While having good intentions, went about it the -wrong- way. Thats all I'll say about that.

    If people have such a problem with the game, the devs, and their 'priorities'. Leave.
    Good read, haven't laughed so hard since last week. Thanks man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Snow View Post
    I can tell you why I didn't come back and suggested to my old buddies not to either:
    Recent moderation/admin decisions have shown that despite all the changes and time that has passed, there's still the same old shitty attitude to players. "This is our decision, even though it makes no sense and we can't explain or justify it, listen to it or be banned. PS: No further discussion or bans will be issued" etc etc

    Sorry, but that attitude turned me off NC almost a decade ago, it isn't going to wash now. For this to be a community, there needs to be respect between the players, the mods and the devs. Unfortunately....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faid View Post
    If you want to kill what little atmosphere is left then you could go no safe zones. There would would be no more pokers / tradeskillers who werent LE'd hanging around anywhere, everyone would stick to their appys. Do people just hang out casually in p2 or PP? Nope. This is what killed Techhaven, turning it into a non safe zone pretty much guaranteed that no one would ever hang out there. People need a place to just hang out and not worry about being killed, a place to focus on bullshitting and tradeskilling.
    Tech haven should be a safezone but nothing else, and the safezone to non-safezone exits of it should be made pvp free.
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    if tech haven becomes a safe zone then you can make the argument that both military base and the canyon should be too. Just because it was a safezone doesnt mean it SHOULD be.

    Personally i dont think it should. it served its purpose. I think faction HQs should have a safe zone area within them that allows for the standing around bullshitting and socialising within the game and plaza 1 and 2 as it will enhance the new runner experience by keeping those 2 zones to plot some dedicated missions/dungeons within the immediate inner city limits before they press on out to pepper park/the outzone etc.

    On the subject of Faction HQs i also think they shouldnt be used as a safezone to run in to and hide if you get jumped near by. Your attacker should be able to pursue you but have to deal with the guards blasting him too so, while its not without risk, there is more of a sense of predator and prey and some real risk of death on both sides. If the prey cant turn and shoot back when he has support of the guards then hes either a tradeskiller or a coward (or hes in virus ) but either way this is still supposed to be a cyberpunk game.

    Besides. if he dies he drops a belt. he can just respawn inside the safe zone gr area and go get his belt. no biggie.
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    About 20 of us were discussing a new game to try and I mentioned neocron, so many are turned off by the moderation and lack of support, I felt like there was nothing else to say to counter...

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threat45 View Post
    About 20 of us were discussing a new game to try and I mentioned neocron, so many are turned off by the moderation and lack of support, I felt like there was nothing else to say to counter...
    Complaining is always easy. Tell us how we can improve and what exactly is missing in terms of moderation and support.

    Although I quoted this specific comment, my statement applies in general to anywhom who complains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faid View Post
    If you want to kill what little atmosphere is left then you could go no safe zones. There would would be no more pokers / tradeskillers who werent LE'd hanging around anywhere, everyone would stick to their appys. Do people just hang out casually in p2 or PP? Nope. This is what killed Techhaven, turning it into a non safe zone pretty much guaranteed that no one would ever hang out there. People need a place to just hang out and not worry about being killed, a place to focus on bullshitting and tradeskilling.
    I agree with this

    I do miss being able to chill in Tech Haven chatting crap. Whenever I made a new toon it was the second place i'd tag after getting point red... on some of my later toons I didn't even bother with it. Little/no point going there unless you're passing through to go to the WoC places or using the armor vendor (and appys to an extend I guess)

    Why not make Tech Haven a safe zone and everywhere else no safe zones... Guess you could temporarily remove SI / implant loss upon death and see how that goes. Tech Haven would once again be a bustling trade centre and the streets of NC would have you facing potential danger around every corner.

    I mainly stopped playing due to boredom and (back then) what seemed to be a lack of direction/future. Whilst the game appears to be going in a very positive direction due to the volunteers I can't see myself having spare time going forward what with the up and coming game/console release schedule. Last time I did login I didn't see any name I recognised either
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    As for me I miss Neocron being a lawless gameplay environment to interract with, complete with the usual COD type "you suck noob learn to play" to the casual, foul mouthed player to the 100% in character RP guy.

    Basically, you used to be able to be what you without much slap on the wrist from GMs, especially with regards to player expression. People had, for instance, retardedly offensive names, and clan images were conceptualized with the most putrageous antics ever.


    Mind you back then, I was 15yrs old or something.

    Mind you back then, I was a paying customer.


    I am now 30yrs old and it really annoys me how GMs are now cracking down on language and shit, as if were supposed to be role models to others or something.

    This is a game ffs. You guys put more hassles and annoyances on it than when I used to play and payfor it.

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