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    I understand your ideas. Although, the OP war should the definition of PvP. All classes and specs should revolve around this. The ppu brings far greater complexity to the game and therefore has its rightful place currently.

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    you think so? i guess nobody has enough creative power in his brain here to imagine how complex op wars would be without ppu's

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    There are lots of games without ppus in combat. They are called fps games. I have played plenty and love them. Nc is not an fps game. Removing ppus is the worst idea going.
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    Give debuffs to APU = Problem solved !

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Antrim View Post
    There are lots of games without ppus in combat. They are called fps games. I have played plenty and love them. Nc is not an fps game. Removing ppus is the worst idea going.
    fps? you know what FPS MEANS? FIRST PERSON SHOOTER?
    guess what, youre dumb, sorry

    and the problem wont be solved, cuz going into wastes isnt so terrifying, you can do probably the most stuff without ppu
    neocron world isnt dangerous, maybe thats why its so boring sometimes

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    [ edited ] he's referring to the FPS genre of games - CS etc (although there are medic classes in some none are like a ppu)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Load_HeavyLoad View Post
    [ edited ]he's referring to the FPS genre of games - CS etc (although there are medic classes in some none are like a ppu)
    so big rage, i see youre on of the "old" players, you should know better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fremen View Post
    Give debuffs to APU = Problem solved !
    what does this solve exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eNTi View Post
    what does this solve exactly?
    reduces ppus necessary and increases amount of APUs

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    Quote Originally Posted by eNTi View Post
    what does this solve exactly?
    PPU's from being the most vital class, as they can buff and heal people but are also the only class who can remove such buffs.

    Alsoif APU's having anti buff makes them the most targeted class then that mean their friends and PPU needs go work together to protect them.
    Alters the dynamic somewhat.
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    Melee dmg reduces shield buffs. Now that would stir things up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Load_HeavyLoad View Post
    reduces ppus necessary and increases amount of APUs
    i'd counter that with even more ppus that can re-shield people fast enough so that apus are basically glass cannon antis. they will do nothing BUT anti all the time and that won't last long, because they will fall like flies.

    i'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but i honestly don't see the meta game shifting into a favorable direction with this change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eNTi View Post
    not quite sure if you thought that through.
    Worked fine in earlier neocron and ppu's were even more daft then.
    It meant that you had to have a ppu keeping up your apu whilst the anti was being cast and your team focus firing down those chasing the apu as well. If they made the anti run-castable as well then it would be even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evs View Post
    Worked fine in earlier neocron and ppu's were even more daft then.
    It meant that you had to have a ppu keeping up your apu whilst the anti was being cast and your team focus firing down those chasing the apu as well. If they made the anti run-castable as well then it would be even better.
    iirc in earlier nc apus where pretty much capable in looking after themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eNTi View Post
    iirc in earlier nc apus where pretty much capable in looking after themselves.
    Yes and no, they were a lot less fragile lets put it that way. However, they were also able to survive longer as you had a better chance of being able to kill your attacker, rather than fizzling or waiting for the atrocious frequency of the 'rare' spells.

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