You should be able to shoot and swap fast when choosing not to reload the first, empty, weapon in your QB.
Keep in mind after that you have to reload them all.
You should be able to shoot and swap fast when choosing not to reload the first, empty, weapon in your QB.
Keep in mind after that you have to reload them all.
I think we all know that with the runspeed and smaller hit box its not as easy at that, they are getting similar to the problem mc had in that they do amazing damage and are hard as hell to hit on the basis that if you do manage to hit em they go down quickly, however this is a tough balance as especially with clipping its easy for them to get rid of your lock and when ppus get involved it makes it even tougher
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The runspeed was already nerfed so what is your problem apart from having bad aiming? Did you ever experience the runspeed before it got nerfed?
There are plenty of people that are able to do what you cannot. Maybe you should use AOE weapons ...
I agree with you Kame, but you have to acknowledge that the damage output can be extreme if you are able to land multiple ionic hits. However this requires skill and you dont see me complaining about this!
Like Mokoi said, be patient and wait for Sparta and the balancing.
Dude, Im trying to be nice.. But really..
DO NOT BLAME OTHERS, ON YOUR SHITTY AIM!
1vs1 Tanks are (BY FAR!!!!) the best class.. At opfights its pretty even between spies and tanks atm. Spies can stealth, and tanks can take a fuck-ton of damage, and have Dev...
Honestly a good aiming Dev tank, will do more damage than any spy will..
However, he will be the first to be focused. Which is why spies are so nice (read: easy) to play at opfights.
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Wtf... Tank is one of the best 1 on 1 classes.. use ionic cannon 1-2 shoots in the leg 3 in the head finish.~~ if you lose with a tank vs a spy who dont hit you with 2-3 ionics in the legs before you see him you make something wrong... but if you want to test it log a bhg spy and i log a tank and we go to neofrag or something than we see how op is the pistol spy~~...
and plz buff the apu that is what we need~~..
yeah i know my english is very fine you dont must tell me this..
player skill?
There are TOOLS ingame which nobody is using just because "it takes some time to buff yourself"...
Nanites are clearly uncomfortable to use... and we may wanna change that but nevertheless are you discussing balancing from the wrong point of view.
You all state that Spies are bad in 1on1s... but you don't even know their full potential. Player skill has nothing to do with that.
Buff yourself with nanites (which are clearly spy only tools) and go into a 1on1 against a gen tank and THEN you can discuss about the spy being to weak in 1vs1.
4 Injections, thats one tool load.
I'm sure my spy can take more damage than some of your sucky tanks :P Luckily nobody uses nanites, spys are overpowered as is.
On topic: I agree that some pistols are "out of the line" strong (especially in combination with the runspeed possible). However the problem is not solved by toning down pistol damage. Every weapon types damage and the efficiency of PPU Shields should be toned down. Beam damage registry needs to be fixed also. Then we can discuss further 'imbalance' issues between the weapon classes. It is too early to discuss specific changes - bugs and underlying problems need to be fixed first.
Give the dev team the time to fix them bugs before demanding balance changes. If you demand them now you will be partly responsible for the fucked up outcome.
Also: If you have no idea of PvP - do not discuss about it, please.
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Well first of all dual logging ppu is lame and additionally ppu buffs are much better than nanites.
"it takes some time to buff yourself"
This is probably the understatement of the year!
You are clearly talking about zoneline PVP, Im not! In a random PVP situation you cant use nanites because of the time it requires to inject them. I have used nanites for some time and they are indeed powerful for zoneline PVP, but for any other PVP situation they are obnoxious to use.
I think you need to read who is arguing what.
I said that alot of "balancing" discussion starts with "I can beat XYZ person on my [whatever class] so they are ok"...
These sort of posts come up all the time and they add nothing to the discussion. Mechanics get discussed and can be changed. For example - nannites. I made a thread a long time ago asking for nannites mechanics to be massively simplified. I wanted them to be able to be injected in a single burst (like PSI) and give the same kind of protection but be slightly different in terms of value and the like. The mechanic of administering them however is clunky and unwieldy and many people do not understand them. This is why I think they are not used more.
Slith everyone thinks theyre an expert in everything on NC, sadly it is up to us to ignore the people who have no clue.