PE level changes

[Satan2k2]

No, the whole class isn't inviable. With the right setting you can beat the s**t out of everything
I'm a PE lover, my first class back in Neocron Beta was a PE, later in retail I got a PE, and on every other Server, too

The "you can do all, but nothing right" thing on that class, is what I like. But when they changed the requirements for the spells the PE was downgraded a lil bit, cause he couldn't use all the spells like before and now you loose focussing trough the MC5 Chips and most settings need 2 of them for the PE.

[Doc Holliday]

the pe is neocron to me. i cannot wait till balancing comes for that class. i will play mine to death. i love him that much. i wish for server transfers though as mine on terra is my original one from uranus when i started and the sentimental value is important.

[Dribble Joy]

You don't really need to change the PE caps when it's far easier to alter the reqs and performance of the spells you might want them to be able to use.

Psi Shield is a wasted opportunity, it could provide a means for PEs to be more viable as the low-offence, high-defence class they are meant to be.

[William Antrim]

Low offence high defence? So tanks without the power. No thanks. I'd rather have a decent offensive capability than the poor excuse we currently have. The problem with making psi resist work with psi shield however is you would shaft apus first off even more than now and spies and pes would become even more powerful. Ppus too most likely.

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Complex stuff this balancing.

[Dribble Joy]

Low offence high defence? So tanks without the power. No thanks. I'd rather have a decent offensive capability than the poor excuse we currently have.

Somewhat depends on the difference between high and low. To what extent do the four classes differ overall in their respective offense/defense power? 10%? 50%? What that number is is a matter of debate.
The PE (personally) should have a higher defence than tanks, otherwise they simply don't fit into the spectrum of offensive classes. Psi is where they pull their defensive capacity above tanks, which is currently lacking in the extreme.

[Doc Holliday]

pe having more defence than a tank........

[Deus Ex Machina]

pe having more defence than a tank........

Pe has less offensive capability than a spy clearly, as his DEX is less. Point wise the cap is not that large as it seem because DEX is the Main Stat for PEs (more point at the start).
They have decent CON and STR, making for some Armors and Resists.
The Rest should be done by PSI, especially considering that Foreign casts are less strong than self casts. Plus the small stealth.

I am not a PE Player anymore, but at least that is in my eyes how it should work, that PEs are very capable defensive wise. It was screwed as soon as a PPU showed up, and I don't know how the situation is today, but theoretically the idea of more defence (which doesn't mean having more raw hit points without doing anything) is sound.

Just to remind, thats theory there, as we are talking about "should"

[Doc Holliday]

ok personal thought is he should have more defenses than a spy naturally through psi and con but not the same as a tank. thats my thought. If anything some on par with the tank or just below it would be good but dont make them ultra defensive without an offense. I think it should be roughly equal but allows for a different style of play with mechanics than a tank.

shield degradation over time is an example along with the fact the pe can heal himself (if heals werent shit compared to nanites) which means he can keep his shields/health longer than a spy etc. Its survivability in essence. the tank doesnt have this. he has his armour and his con which is his key to survival. the pe has to use smarts and watch his shields etc but also means he has to make sure he has good ones.

This is where the private eye becomes more of a labour of love to make him great in a players eyes. you spend the time making all his kit where as a tank just throws on his armour and goes at it. im not against the pe having stronger D than the tank but i do think it would be a little odd. equality would be better. he definitely needs more offense though. I personally think the pe should be treated seperately from the other classes however. he is the jack of all trades as everyone always says. so he should be handled in this sense rather than trying to compare him to the other classes who are all superior in each of the core skills than he is.

[William Antrim]

Private eyes should have the 2nd best defence in the game (of the offensive classes) I agree but not at the cost of their offence! I want to be able to still kill people as a pe!

[hajoan]

You need 2 implants + drug + psi eye for focussing to use the rezz. Or more than one drug.

I were told that so often but ist not true.
44 PSI, 95 PPU and 51 Focus should be enaugh, eh?



OK this just a posibility and PvP is Harakiri with it but with some changes PvE is realy possible.

So with some changes (and without the LE) there are posiblities that were ignored so often.

You just Need to believe in Crahn to find a way.

[Satan2k2]

Yeah, now you have 3 brain psi imps + eye and no offense (pistol or rifle) with imps

[hajoan]

OK, I would use the '2 implants + drug + psi eye ' Version you already wrote
So when I need the rezz for rezzing the PPU I would take one drug and thats it.

But its possible without drugs and for driving people to the MB the non drug Version would work for me

[Dropout]

Yeah, now you have 3 brain psi imps + eye and no offense (pistol or rifle) with imps

Happy? Took me a woopin' 3mins to make..

[Satan2k2]

Happy? Took me a woopin' 3mins to make..

Did you read what I was writing before? That's exactly what I mean

[Dropout]

Did you read what I was writing before? That's exactly what I mean

Only the thing I quoted.

The setup I posted only only uses 2 psi implants in total.
And with 220 RC, you can do quite a lot of damage. The setup is at the speed-cap (softcap my ass). And it has OK'ish resists.