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    Default (POLL) APU Casting Frequency

    In the current state of the game I would say Most players in PvP are HC Tanks, Spies, PPU.
    I think to enhance NC, and create a little more diversity two things should happen:

    • APU Fequency should be increased, for those that played NC1 / early NC2 should remember the Holy Lightning machines that were APUs, which had a large following in PvP.
    • Melee combat should be tuned to be viable in PvP for tanks, there is 0% of the population as melee tanks right now, and I remember when this was at least an Option for tanks to pick for PvP.



    So I'd like to poll people on these two points, APU freq and Melee Tanks - please reply with:
    Y/N - APU Freq
    Y/N - Melee Tanks

    Then continue to discuss below your vote!

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    Yes - APU Freq
    Yes - MC Tank

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    I think you forgot a major one... PEs.

    But yes, I think everyone agrees that APUs and Melee tanks need tweaking, along with PEs.

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    Yes to both

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    yes in every single other thread made on this topic previouslytoo.
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    Yes, Yes, and for PPU tweaking Yes too

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    tank yes, apu yes, pe yes,

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    para yes!

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    APU - Antibuff, PPU - Parashock

    And yes to the OP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascension View Post
    APU - Antibuff, PPU - Parashock

    And yes to the OP!
    THIS! and S/D

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    Yes to APU, Melee and a very big yes to PEs!

    A HUGE no to bring back parashock (in any form).
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    PPUs still have parashock. It's really weak, but that's the way it should be.

    No to an APU freq increase. APUs need a role change, not a damage buff. If you make them as strong as other classes, we'll return to the horror that was pre-2.2 Monk-o-cron. If they're weaker, then they'll barely be used. They need a different slot to competing with tanks as pure combat.

    No objections to buffing melee, but honestly, that shouldn't be done on its own - it should be done as part of fixing weapon damage as a whole.

    PEs again need sorting, but as part of a broader look at what there place should be, not just making them slightly better mini-spies.

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    Usually most threads like these don't take into account the whole picture, but I'll bite for once.

    APU - Frequency increase back to NC1/NC2 days err big no. I would like a very small increase, but not on the scale going back to NC1/NC2 frequency rates. (What like 2-3 times?)

    MC - Not convinced buffing up MC will do anything to help here, since I've been convinced it's a netcode issue that makes M-C tanks crap in PvP. May be wrong on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brammers View Post
    MC - Not convinced buffing up MC will do anything to help here, since I've been convinced it's a netcode issue that makes M-C tanks crap in PvP. May be wrong on this one.
    Sure it has a Little to do with the netcode, however with some getting used to, its easy to hit every time. Sadly the damage is still pretty bad.

    Edit: And I do agree about "the Whole Picture".
    Theres lots of Things that needs balancing. I do not envy the volunteer team...
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    the freq on a holy lightning went from 105/min to 35/min I believe and they added a reticle effectively killing the whole class, So yes an increase would be great, maybe not back to 105 but definitely higher than 35.

    Yes to melee also

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMaster View Post
    PPUs still have parashock. It's really weak, but that's the way it should be.

    No to an APU freq increase. APUs need a role change, not a damage buff. If you make them as strong as other classes, we'll return to the horror that was pre-2.2 Monk-o-cron. If they're weaker, then they'll barely be used. They need a different slot to competing with tanks as pure combat.

    No objections to buffing melee, but honestly, that shouldn't be done on its own - it should be done as part of fixing weapon damage as a whole.

    PEs again need sorting, but as part of a broader look at what there place should be, not just making them slightly better mini-spies.
    Fully Agreed. In my opinion, the APU has to be a Supporter - Antishield/Def/Prot/Heal. The old APU with actual dmg/freq should be fine.

    Melee Tank needs something special for a better protection and a dmg boost.

    Summary:

    APU Freq - No.
    Melee Tanks - Yes.

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