WoC Changes - Make it fair

[Dropout]

Hopefully the devs are smart about this and don't just jump to rash decisions like "OMG people are complaining about droning lets just remove all drones from the game". Removing woc completely would be a horrendous decision to make now. A complete wipe or a complete balance seems to be the only choices atm.

I doubt that they would do something like that..
So far they have not really made any stupid moves IMO.

[Riddle]

It's all fubar IMO.

WOC should = Vanity items.... sexy looking PA or dual wield model(not a second gun, just the look) etc. etc.

WOC should not = required for pvp

you should gain no extra damage or stats from the woc grind, yes other weapon models but comparable to existing weapons I.e just a different looking skin

[Dropout]

It's all fubar IMO.

WOC should = Vanity items.... sexy looking PA or dual wield model(not a second gun, just the look) etc. etc.

WOC should not = required for pvp

you should gain no extra damage or stats from the woc grind, yes other weapon models but comparable to existing weapons I.e just a different looking skin

I completely agree with this.

[Faid]

WOC should not = required for pvp

It isn't
This seems to be the common misconception. The only viable woc pvp weapon really would be the AK and thats not as good as a dissy So it certainly isnt required for pvp. Ion Cannons and Cursed Souls are tank pvp weapons both of which do not require woc. You might have a case concerning pistols but pistols are all around crappy when it comes to pvp regardless of woc.

I do agree with your other points though

[Dropout]

It isn't
This seems to be the common misconception. The only viable woc pvp weapon really would be the AK and thats not as good as a dissy So it certainly isnt required for pvp. Ion Cannons and Cursed Souls are tank pvp weapons both of which do not require woc. You might have a case concerning pistols but pistols are all around crappy when it comes to pvp regardless of woc.

I do agree with your other points though

I wouldnt call the BHG crappy
So if you want to use pistols you do NEED WoC - at least for opfighting.
But yeah, pistols really Arent very good atm

[Strife]

Rip Slasher spies. My favorite setup.

[Dropout]

Rip Slasher spies. My favorite setup.

Was by far my favorite spy weapon aswell.
Leveled to cap with it, got WoC with it and PvP'd with it later on.
Didnt PvP with the same one as I leveled with ofc - the one I leveled with was about /16 condition when I got WoC

[Dribble Joy]

I would be inclined to (if the mechanics allowed) create a separate skill system for WoC. Where it indicates the WoC level, similar to the main stats, would be an arrow opening up a skill window like the subskills. Each WoC level would give you a point to spend in various WoC skills. This could include weapon use and other non-critical abilities.