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I'm still here because I happen to really like this game and really wish that they would fix it.
Same with me :)Quote:
Originally Posted by flib
This is still my favorite MMO.
Same here, since I first played it I fell in love with it, always wanted a cyberpunk RPG and while the SNES Shadowrun game was the bomb, I needed something more up to date, 'Cron does just that. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by flib
How can anyone be defending KK at this point? lol
Because I can see the logical side of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vid Gamer
He is either leading us on or he isn't. Either way I don't really care, I want the game fixed but I'm not going to get worked up and rage over it. I have more important things to spend my time worrying about.
There isn't anything I can do to fix this game, I can't buy it or pay for them to fix it. I have two choices, stay optimistic and hope they do something (Not hard for me to do since I don't let myself get angry) or I can get mad and throw a fit. I'm not going to bring myself to the level of personal insults against the CEO.
Alright, I couldn't edit my last post so I am just going to make this one.
I want to get some clarity out there. I don't think my point is being made clearly (probably to a fault of mine to some degree). If something is in bold I am simply emphasizing it, not internet yelling. Edit: Also I am trying to make this post as short as possible. I don't want to wall-o-text everyone.
This is what I am doing:
- I am not defending Reakktor, I am defending Kirk's personality/character. I can't judge him, I don't know his circumstances. By all means, bring the companies faults to light in the BP forums. They have a bad record with communication and the BP community deserves to know it. But I don't like insulting Kirk personally.
- I am not agreeing with his lack of communication, I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.
- I am not telling you what to do, I am pointing out that a lot of it is irrational. You are dealing with a company, an entity that doesn't have to care (especially since this game is dead and would probably be cheaper for them to kill off).
- I am pointing out that as a company and as the CEO of that company Kirk has no obligation to tell us anything. We aren't investors or anywhere close to the level of him being obligated to tell us. The sheer fact that the game is dead puts us even lower. I don't condone the lack of care (if he is actually telling himself this), but at the same time it's true.
I also want to point out:
- It makes no sense for them to keep this game going unless they cared. It's only a cost right now, the fan base is not that big. We are just loyal and passionate about the game.
- It makes no sense for him to come here and throw fuel on the fire then just leave. That's not satisfying anyone and they aren't stupid enough to think they can do that forever and attempt to satisfy anyone (If that's what they are doing).
- It makes even less sense for him to personally call L0KI (Who am I right to assume sounded pleased and satisfied with the response?) just to leave. Something must have happened.
These reasons are the only reasons I am even sticking around. I love the game but without those, which really point to them at least caring about the game, there is no hope for the game.
That said, seriously Kirk you need to get on here and reply. I won't say you're a bad person, but it was not smart to do this and then not follow up and (or send some one else to at least) tell anyone why or what's going on to prevent you from doing it. That makes things look bad. At least giving us a reason as to the delay may or may not make things much better, but they sure can't make it much worse when you think about it. Hiding from it isn't going to make it go away.
At the same time we aren't asking him to make a simple little interview post with 5 easy game play questions. He actually has to think and form a response to them.
And to anyone who doubts my knowledge of the game history, you can ask MrTrip. I have known him since the beginning, I just went by a different name and gave that account away way back. Either way not many people know me, I still watched what was going on the whole time though.
What name did you go buy in the beginning Coreinsanity?
As for who can defend KK etc...
well how do you guys know that someone at Gamigo hasnt put a lid on any nc talk? They could be pursuing developmental possibilities right now for all we know. Yes that is wishful thinking you are very much right there.
However it is another possibility that there is stuff in the pipeline that they are legally not allowed to tell us. These things do happen when one company takes over another, even one with an ailing product.
At the end of the day all of this is hearsay and conjecture. Everyone is speculating but none of us has ever been a CEO of a company. Sure you might have written a masters thesis in a hotel room, in my work I tell aircraft where to drop bombs.... it doesn't make me any more qualified to write an email to tell a CEO what he should or should not be doing with his company.
In all fairness if i was in his shoes and i read your posts..... i'd be thinking "no thanks dude not sure i want to indulge your request for information" and probably keep walking.
TomParad0x a long time ago, used to play on saturn / pluto and uranus.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Antrim
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Originally Posted by William Antrim
This is basically what I'm saying. All this anger is just going to lead to him not even wanting to reply, especially if it starts being aimed directly at him without even knowing his situation.
telling someone what he's doing is stupid, then telling him what is better than doing that stupid thing; while not directly saying it, it is however implying how someone should act. Just so you know how it appears :pQuote:
Originally Posted by CoreInsanity
Alright, I'm not trying to start a fight so I'm going to change what I had here, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biglines
I really don't care what everyone does. In a way I am implying what people should do, however more so I am trying to say we should all keep in mind we don't know Kirk, we can't see Kirk and we can't know what he's thinking or what is keeping him from answering us. Therefore, we should not be judging him and comparing our achievements to him saying he should be able to give us a response. I have probably 50 things I could do that with, but I'm not going to because my circumstances were different than his. For all we know he has a fear of flying and couldn't think straight on the plane and meanwhile we are sitting here tearing his character down.
Edit: Also, has anyone gone on the BP forums since he hasn't shown up yet?
Yes I remember Tom Paradox on Uranus, I believe you were tom-paradox-spy or something similar.
You came to some of our op fights as Regulators and The Crahn Syndicate I think. Did you kick around with Honk Machine at one point? Or Neoeye?
Going to techhaven.org again today I saw the front page and although I have seen it a dozen of times in the last weeks I read the post one more time that L0ki wrote after talking to Kirk.
When you think about it, there is quite some information there.
Of course, I'd also like to know more, especially about the dates for NC2 patches, and how Gamigo views NC, and of course about NC3.
But at least Kirk gave us some information about the topics being discussed at that time and he told us through L0ki that NC is still on his mind, and that he has plans and thoughts about it:
That's at least something, people. Of course we'd like a direct point to point answer to Biglines summary but I really don't think a CEO has the time nor the motivation to write that much on an internet forum, hence the phone call.Quote:
Originally Posted by L0KI
In the end all we can do is hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
ìvan, the phonecall was weeks before my summary, and it was kirk specifically who asked for this summary, and promised to answer it before the week was up.
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Originally Posted by William Antrim
The names sound kind of familiar, though I always used TomParadox as one word. I might have been lazy and added spy at the end, that sounds like something I would have done lol.
yeah you did. t0mparadoxtank etc. i remember you too. you might have been with ncat but dont quote me. def remember playing with you. might have been syndicate too (crahn clan. THE crahn clan :P)Quote:
Originally Posted by CoreInsanity
back on topic. Chill for a little while longer. Danae said he was away on business. Regardless of the ability to post somethin or not maybe he is holding off to actually gather some relevant info rather than just writing somethin for the sake of it. maybe not.
maybe nc3 is in development. maybe not as will said its a nice thought. we will see what happens. i still say give it another couple weeks. if nothin by then well. bf3 will be out :) yay.