Would it be possible to add an auction house and if not what about adding NPC vendors that can sell players items?
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Would it be possible to add an auction house and if not what about adding NPC vendors that can sell players items?
I don't like auction houses. I prefer barking on Trade or even posting here on the Marketplace forums; these make you interact with other players. The low population does affect trading, but honestly I haven't had a huge problem. If I need an FSM or a tech part it usually takes 1-2 days.
NPC vendors would be cool. Maybe apartments that could be setup as shops. I'd love that. Reminds me of SWG.
Yeah when I thought about the auction house idea I thought NPC vendors would be even better. More NC's style. Might give apartments more functionality too.
What about a compromise, auction house works for everything except rares, epics and FSM/Hacknet Database items.
In other words, if you can buy it in archer&wesson or boobs & guns, you can get it on the player auction house. Hopefully with much better stats and a slot or two.
That should give us the best of both worlds without killing in person, player to player trading.
I'd support the addition of AH with those rules.
EDIT: Oh and I guess you can add jones quest items to that list if anyone really cares, you can already easily make alts for them and then delete the alts.
I actually like an Auction House, or a player vendor type deal. I don't have all day to sit and announce in chat to trade let alone the low population to begin with. Usually when I get to play its always at 0-1% and trading is nearly impossible or just doesn't happen. At least with some type of open market I could buy/sell stuff at other active hours.
An auction house wouldn't be bad while the population is low, but if the population swings back to a couple hundred actives, it should be removed. Keeps player interaction at a high, but I do agree that the population right now could certainly benefit from it.
We can compromise even more. Leaving trading as it is, but adding noticeboard where everyone can post their advertisment with indicator if player is online or not with option for rapid DM. Other players could see what is being sold and for what price, while player interaction remain the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by hatmankh
Yes, there is one in CityCom, but its barely useful. We need something dedicated, from simple boards to (when engine will allow) to holo ads through the city. That would look and feel awesome.
We have talked about often internally.
I would implement that feature step by step and the first version will be webbased to workaround the current mechanics.
Positives
- Ease of buying stuff
- Ease of selling stuff
Negatives
- Takes away from the player interaction
- Could be used to inflate prices (this is a common practice in many if not all mmos with AH's), flipside is constant undercutting.
- Would be cluttered with 'useless' junk
My personal preference for Neocron is NO.
I think the problem is the player interaction. Its no secret with such a low population there is literally zero player interaction via trading (at least for me and my time zone). In a market with thousands of players sure an AH would be pointless in a game like Neocron. But with the current population, I think it would be beneficial for sure.
I would like to see a repair option from all vendors. I know as players we can dump points into it but i think there should be another option if you don't want to use points for it. The same with implant poking. I know its been a long part of the game but having to ask players to do this all the time feels strange. Just looking for options for some things is all.
I disagree. I think that would be too simplified.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaikura
What about reducing the skill point requirements for a lot of tradeskills? I would make res/cst/imp/rep/bar all require half the points they currently do (repair is already half, I know). Barter would need significant diminish returns. It's rediculous how specalized a character has to be to be effective in Neocron. The best tradeskillers have seperate characters for res, cst, and barter. It's an unnecessary hurdle and too many alts.
I wouldn't mind an NPC poking or repairing, but they could limit either the quality of repair from the shop or make it only possible for other players to repair rare items. For poking you could make TL 115 and epic reward implants exclusive to players only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake6k
That way shops can repair amour and lowbie weapons to help the newer population, anything from Epic and upwards should be player repair only - or would that get too complicated?
Oh god this would be a godsend for Neocron in its current state. Trying to find someone to do repairs or poking is a nightmare. Half the time I just log out of boredom waiting around for someone that can repair or poke. Repair station or an implant station would be a very nice addition to the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaikura
I like to see Public Vendors like idea. Maybe 3-4 Locations around the world players can rent a stall maybe. With a low population it should work okay just don't be dinks and limit what a stall can sell or people will just abuse it with 10 alts and there would be no stalls for others.
But I like to have a Old School real Trading style system. Like old games had housing and then in the houses you could sell your goodies and such. Like Endless Ages, Ultima Online, etc.
I would really hate it to be ruined by a auction house or a search / index system like Anarchy online ended up doing.
I rather players still advertise via the forums / chat but now they have a location where we can check their vendors and many others without compromising old school trading.
since there are plenty of players online atm, it shouldnt be a problem to find a gunrunner. we could even agree on using the ingame forum again, for advertising sales.
I would still like to see some offline options to sell things at work. Maybe a terminal at their Apt's where we can visit and buy things from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Torg
If you can`t find reper or poker make it self. Why because of one jerk, the developers should change the whole interactive mechanics of the game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaikura
I spent tens or even hundreds of hours to grow 6 characters and understand mechanics of game. After the last patch I just deleted the game and wish you all Happy New Wipe. Although I'm sure the developers are afraid of the wipe. Because then the game will lost half of her fans, which by the way have accumulated a lot of mods. Farm tunnels was fun and sometimes it's nice relaxing. Now it is one continuous hemorrhoids which is enough time only utter wankers. Personally, I value my time, and I know the price of justice. Therefore, I have no desire to mess with chickens. Because bad company is like a virus, you'll be slowly dying until you die.
i can see your point, while i also see constructors advertising and selling stuff in plaza every day now.Quote:
Originally Posted by kane
Wat?Quote:
Originally Posted by Night Stranger
I saw your channel. All what you show, how to make noob quests. If you think thats cool, ok. But I don`t understand for who this videos? For 10-12 years childrens, who fucks this Neocron and will never play it or for thousands players who played this game last 15 years? I think even small schooler want to see how to be a father in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by kane
I played this game only one year and did all to fill there comfortable and get more interactve fun. If someone was need Crahn ampliefer I ran all hn to download this shit, because it was a nice quest. You need guns? Here you are! Poker? Np. Fire support? I am... and btw I remember hours when was only one player on Titan.
Now think about what will be if Zoltan will push "RELOAD"?
Yes, auction house plz. Disable if active population breaks 500 ever, till then an AH would do more good than anything.