Balance Project Update, July 2016.

I have all the high tech pistols to test and will do low tech later but I havent found the elves yet. I went to the matrix and stocked up but are they in P1 or somewhere else? I went to the ceres temple but didnt see them there either. Never mind i found em too.

when i saw shooting range i assumed it was the junk one from NC1.... sorry.

Liberator does 38 damage x4 in the red zone (torso) but even with a closed reticle it still misses more than it should.

This was with a pe with 95 dex and 172 wep lore and 190 pistol combat.

Overall I think i like the changes youve made to the imps and stuff but I think you should know that for a combat char there are now no viable high tech rares for a PE without gimping completely. I couldnt find a single +dex chip I wanted to use outside of the old school ones that still give dex.

I hope you will review the TLs of guns because I want to be able to use a Judge at the very least.

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Warning: With the rifle/melee weapons I tested I was having trouble getting headshots on the elf bitches.

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Jump and shoot ! ^^.
Even from above, having headshot is nearly impossible, you need to aim way above the top of the target ui to score a headshot, crouching or standing still.

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2 Lazar Rifle DEX: 2 R-C: 5 didn't see merchant for this

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I recycle one of them with only good damage (67%).
Results are : 26/22/17 red.

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6 Mendicant Rifle DEX: 6 R-C: 15 didn't see merchant for this

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Same with good damage (60%).
Results are : 7/6/5 red, 3 bullets per shot.

My skills are 168/196/98.

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65 Unregistered 'Black Market' Pumpgun DEX: 65 R-C: 95 didn't see merchant for this

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Seems to had disappear completly, the hacknet stuff guy and the hacknet stuff vendor doesn't have it.

Misses are way to commun even I oooooooovercap those waypons.

Damage colors are only aesthetics, red = piercing, blue = nrj etc ?

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10 Sniper Rifle R-C: 40

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Same skills.
Results are 96/80/64. Zoom seems totally broken, it's an 'unzoom' ^^.
Zoom of other sniper seems broken too, commando one is something like 2% zoom.

I try another Mendicant Rifle with perfect damage (111%) I found in one of my cabs, same results.

Thanks Fasterbot!

The Black Market Pump Gun is a hacknet item if memory serves me correctly?

Aye, it's not on the hacknet merchant.

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Aye, it's not on the hacknet merchant.

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Sorry don't know then.

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65 Unregistered 'Black Market' Pumpgun DEX: 65 R-C: 95 didn't see merchant for this

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So, I get one construct from scratch (go to hacknetdb the old fashion way, gather parts etc ^^),
with perfect damage (111%).
Results are : 298/248/199 red, two round per shoot but only one damage number.
Same skills.

Short update.

I was working on our auto balancing stuff, its now able to handle more than just the regular ammo.
I was trying to test some modifications made by the new logic but I failed so badly in the first moments of testing - No mods are available :D

This zoom thingy on sniper rifles sound strange btw, I'll have a look onto this later. I need to create some mods first :D

About the calculations: We do calculate damage based on TL, frequency of shot (how many shots are possible within a timespan x).

Neocron is using this damage and modifies it by our new damage system - MainSkill + SubSkill.
There are still some codeparts were aim modifies damages aswell, this will be removed.

Aim only affects the chance to hit instead of miss.

Progress++

http://neocron-game.com/media/MOD1.png

http://neocron-game.com/media/MOD2.png

The (auto) balancing service is now creating its own ammo + mods.

As you can see DoT's are now handled by the service aswell.

So we finally could have back our beloved DoTs on weapons now :D

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Aye, it's not on the hacknet merchant.

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Thanks for that, this has been fixed. The item will be available from the Neocronstruct vendor with the next Vedeena patch.

This time around Jack Drake(Drake6k) helped me out. He shot and I took the numbers down.

Pistols

155 PC, 88 TC, 76 WEP


Character has WoC INT, lol, so someone will have to test WoC pistols. And the recycle stuff.

Lowtech Pistol (Head/Body/Legs)

TL Item name

1 Beggar Nailgun Recycle

2 Lazar Gun Recycle

4 Unlabeled Pinfire Nailgun (20/16/13) red damage

7 Mendicant SMG Recycle

9 A&W Colt Budget (18/15/12) red damage

17 A&W Needle N31 Nailgun (31/26/21) red damage

20 Street Model Uziel SMG (11/9/7) fires 4 bullets, consumes 4 bullets, red damage

25 Unlabeled Automatic Pistol (36/30/24) fires 4 bullets, consumes 4 bullets, red damage

26 A&W Street Model Gun (52/43/34) red damage

31 Ryker Legacy N-52 Nailgun (58/48/38) red damage

32 Unlabeled Mini Rocketlauncher (150, AOE) red damage

36 Ryker Revver Gatlin (14/12/9) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, red damage

38 S-337-F Submachine Gun (22/18/14) fires 4 bullets, consumes 4 bullets, red damage

41 Automatic Pistol (59/49/38) fires 4 bullets, consumes 4 bullets, red damage

42 Tangent 'Wasteland Eagle' (84/70/56) red damage

46 Mini Rocketlauncher (252, AOE) red damage

59 Gatlin Pistol (24/20/16) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, red damage

63 'Rapidfire' SMG224 (36/30/24) fires 4 bullets, consumes 4 bullets, red damage

64 Tangent Automatic Pistol (92/76/61) fires 4 bullets, consumes 4 bullets, red damage

65 Tangent Mini Rocketlauncher (351, AOE) red damage

77 Enhanced Spitfire Gatlin Pistol (28/23/18) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, red damage

88 Wyatt Earp (139/116/93) red damage

91 Liberator (40/33/27) fires 4 bullets, consumes 4 bullets, red damage

95 Ionic Shotgun Pistol (218/182/145) red damage

96 S.W.A.T. Backup Gun WoC

106 HVAP-100 Freeman Pistol WoC

107 Craftsmans Dream 6100 (129/107/86) red damage

110 Dreadfire Prototype 03 (28/23/18) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, red damage

113 Ceres Handgun BHG-9 WoC


Hightech Pistol (Head/Body/Legs)

TL Item name

15 HEW Lightwand L77x3 (12/10/8) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

18 Tangent 'Substandard' Pulselaser Pistol (9/7/6) orange damage

24 Unlabeled 'Chill' Freezer Pistol (32/26/21) fires 2 bullets, consumes 2 bullets, blue damage

40 IC-E-4453 Freezer Pistol (53/44/35) fires 2 bullets, consumes 2 bullets, blue damage

46 Ryker 'Glare' Laser Pistol (39/33/26) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

51 A&W PP183K Plasma Pistol (47/38/31) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

54 Street Model Welder Fusion Pistol (100/83/67) fires 2 bullets, consumes 2 bullets, red damage

57 Unlabeled 'Sunray' Raypistol (87/72/58) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

61 Ryker 'Pocketblizzard' FP-224 (82/68/54) fires 2 bullets, consumes 2 bullets, blue damage

65 Tangent Pulselaser Pistol (34/28/22) orange damage

65 HEW 'Jordan Special' LP-82a (56/46/37) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

68 Plasma Pistol (62/52/41) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

71 Fusion Pistol (129/107/86) fires 2 bullets, consumes 2 bullets, red damage

74 RayGun pistol (106/88/70) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

75 Prototype Tangent-Laserbeam-Pistol (59/48/38) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

80 Ryker Napalm PP_v42 (63/53/42) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

83 Ryker Atomfist FP-26 Fusion Pistol (128/107/85) fires 2 bullets, consumes 2 bullets, red damage

86 TG Raygun Pistol (106/88/70) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

86 Blacksun RP-97 (106/88/70) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

92 Tangent Assault Pulselaser Pistol (36/30/24) orange damage

100 Judge (63/53/42) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

100 Juggernaut Crossbow Pistol WoC

102 Steiner F.P 1.0 (92/77/61) fires 2 bullets, consumes 2 bullets, blue damage

103 Slasher (36/30/24) orange damage

105 Beam of Hell (59/49/39) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

108 Ray of Last Hope (106/88/70) fires 3 bullets, consumes 3 bullets, blue damage

112 Executioner (128/107/85) fires 2 bullets, consumes 2 bullets, red damage



Thoughts:

Rayguns do same damage at all ranges. TL 86/Blacksun and TL 74 and the Ray of Last Hope do same damage.

71 and 83 TL and the Executioner fusion pistols do same damage. Fusion pistols do same damage at all ranges.

I was testing weapon caps and noticed damage caps at 100% now and aiming at 250%. I was able to make a build with a capped Terminator and still have enough hacking for OPs and most belts. This is a fantastic change, it means more build variety and customization. On the live server if you want to maximize your guns damage every single int point needs to be in weapon lore.

Beat me to it but nice work.

I will try to make the recycle ones if I got some time this evening, I can't promise ^^.

Could be cool to have a 'vendor' for trash, it's a little time consuming
and so random to visit every crate and trashbin of the city
to get what you need for those guns ;).