A random thought about the progression of NC as it pertains to fresh blood-- If a Steam Greenlight release were to occur, would you be willing to swallow a pill and show up for "day 1 re-re-re-re-release" as a 0/2?
A random thought about the progression of NC as it pertains to fresh blood-- If a Steam Greenlight release were to occur, would you be willing to swallow a pill and show up for "day 1 re-re-re-re-release" as a 0/2?
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divide
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Steam-ready Neocrack would be completely different game probably, so why not.
Couple of points:Quote:
Originally Posted by AlvaroT
- It would still be free. So why go 2 slot when you can still make multiple Accounts?
- The people who stuck with the game through the "sad tiems" should not be punished yet again by another reset.
- Having high lvl people around makes getting gear, information and clan membership way, way easier for beginners to attain.
- There is no content creep like in other MMO's. Everything a maxed out char currently has is reachable for a beginner in a reasonable amount of time. So a reset is in no way necessary.
- NST has confirmend: Titan is meant to stay.
Definately not, unless they had 10x Exp Gain for first month of re release, that may persuade me.
Kinda surprised at the devout resistance, but in the end I get it. I hate leveling probably more than most. It's just that knowing the way the economy changes when the server has a high-level playerbase makes one wonder about the opportunities provided to new players.
I'd count on peoples generosity there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divide
People have been helping me out very well when i started again.
I would be fine with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divide
yes, of course. the early Titan was as exciting as NC1, because everyone had to care for the game, not just the endgame. i'd even pay for a fresh server with everyone starting from 0/2.
I don't understand your reasoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Torg
So People don't care about the game once they play endgame?
Do you mean people don't get assistance while leveling? my experience was very different.
I still say no to a wipe.
The thing you have to understand about Torg is this: whatever the common sense normal approach that the majority would take on a given subject is, Torg will claim to support the opposite.
Of course this is pure speculation; it can never be proven because a server wipe hasnt happened.
:)
I don't think Torg is too off his rocker with his response. I'd be willing to start fresh if it was for the best interest of the game. I don't believe new players entering a world full of capped players is as enticing and compelling for them as it is to start on a more even playing field.
If there was a wipe I would of liked to see more new player friendly fixes. For example the missions screen having a full screen of missions instead of having to click through them. Also instead of killing 5 of something you kill 10+ and earn more xp/money and more missions added overall would be great. Not sure how much work that would be but surely should be doable and would enhance the new player experience a lot. There are various other small changes/fixes that can be made. Small attention to detail can go a long way.
I am sure that the NST will get Kirk to bring NC to Steam, right after solving the middle east conflict and planting weed on Mars.
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Originally Posted by aKe`cj
Can we somehow fit MJS into that equation for old times?
nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divide
I guess that would mean dividing by zero or something...i
Fellow runners, i'm pretty sure everyone understands the difference between a "wipe" and a "new server", don't we? Back in ye olde days (tm) there were up to 4 servers open at once. So why not start a fresh, new, second server once NC ever goes to steam - or gets patched according to the plans we heard of, some time in 2016? I believe new players would welcome a world where everyone starts with nothing (but maybe some prior experience). And i believe Titan should stay open, so that veterans could bravely fight at OPs and in plaza 2 like they were doing for many years. Or try the new server. In that case i'd be happy to get a new life in Neocron, and i'd be happy to pay to the tune of 1 € (0,71 GBP, 1,07 USD) per month and character slot.
ARGH - not again, this new server-shit story...
Not quite. Neocron, being a MMO, doesn't stop you from playing the game after you cappped your char's exp. Unlike a typical solo-RPG. So you'd work your way up to full cap through all means this game has to offer, but once you reached cap, you're not reading a farewell mesage like GAME OVER or YOU'VE WON or THE END, but are allowed to play on for years, typically PvPing in your leisure time. That's what i was talking about: "game" vs "endgame".Quote:
Originally Posted by Odimara Orca
guess what guys, none of this is going to happen....
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Originally Posted by Torg
So people don't care about leveling after reaching Cap?
uh.....
I don't even...
Yes, Odi, You can either play the game, or try to level up as fast as possible in order to cap out and then play a weaker form of Counter Strike.
Other MMOs try to adress this problem by adding new high-level content, extending exp cap, adding skills, adventures, missions to keep people playing. Unfortunately Neocron isnt backed by a rich and successful development studio, so we're not enjoying a constant flow of new ingame-content.
i'm not sure about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by yavimaya
No it's not a weaker form of CS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Torg
It's a mmofps.
Other MMO's also have massive problems because of new additions. Ever heard of Content Creep?
Time and effort should have lasting value. Not be invalidated every year by a new addon.
Also you're always free to create your own content (Events).
Your solution to lacking endgame content is:
Force everbody to level again.
That doesn't even address the core problem you describe yourself.
Runner, please. What i'm saying is: If NC will ever go on Steam, or at least enjoy that mega-overhaul our favourite Devs are hinting at frequently, i would love seeing both Titan kept alive and being offered an additional, new server for everyone wanting to start from scratch. That would be awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odimara Orca
Me thinks somebody is trolling you, Torg :angel:
why u ruin mah fun?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by drachenpaladin
As a returning NC1 Closed beta player, the question to reset or not to reset is a no brainer.... If your going to start a new server for Steam start out fresh, everyone on equal footing it does not take long to level up from zero. Yes it's a pain but you will have something more at your disposal other than weapons, skills and such... You will have your knowledge of the game that new players won't have.
Redburn
Sorry couldn't remember my old password to use my old forum name.. :wtf:
I would be for anything that would bring people to the game. It is easy to level and get items in this game. Wipe away.