The Regant Bossroom is just as broken as AoE drones and should be fixed aswell. Anything else would be a huge disadvantage for spies.
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The Regant Bossroom is just as broken as AoE drones and should be fixed aswell. Anything else would be a huge disadvantage for spies.
Realy, its broken? just like AoE'ing drones? someone get this guys outta here !Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueRobot
Simple Solution: remove the boss room :PQuote:
Originally Posted by BlueRobot
The Nightmare should be made to be an actual threat, for one thing. Maybe the Crawlers should be able to do some kind of non-negligible ranged damage, as well.
Also, toss in some of the gun and melee-using Regant's Mobs from Regant's Lab in Gaia Mine.
What an incredibly well structured and well thought out suggestion.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueRobot
Regant mobs in general need sorting out. Crawlers need to be more consistent, rather than alternating between doing nothing and instagib...
Well, the bossroom obviously doesn t match the difficulty level of other caves with mobs ranked that high. And since it can be soloed by mid lvl players and gives incredible amounts of xp and money it's obviously broken. Everyone saying something else is obviously just in fear of loosing his shortcut to easy xp/money and will be handled as a troll by me.
As to fixing it: Just give the mobs the same shooting mechanics that the chaos creeps have, maybe give them their own later when the gms have more time.
I dont go to regants, atall, cant stand the place, and the ambient audio there does my damn head in. But treat me as a troll after your opening post and you'll find out why i had an 8 year ban on these forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueRobot
Your opening post to this thread was laughable, no effort put in, no suggested fix at the time of posting, and no real reasoning to why you feel it is 'broken', however granted, it is widely viewed as 'the place to level' just by how more efficient it is to get XP there then at other places due to the way most the mobs are melee, and everyone has range to kill them...
There are already regents mobs in game that have ranged weapons, their used in the dungeon off the gaya mines, forget which mission thats for, but there would be no harm to either lore or aesthetics if they were also introduced into regants legacy.
The boss, considering his size, should have an AOE that effects the whole room, not just around him but the whole room, passed as some kind of tremor i guess if people want a logical excuse for an attack like that (From a 40 foot high mutant that shits out acid Oo ....)
This. And the melee mobs needs to actually hit you AND do damage aswell.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMaster
As it is one can just run past everything, all the way to the boss room.
Can confirm Instagib :)
I was there my 1st time some days ago and I like the place - a little too empty, eerie, giving me the creeps - just like a good old fashioned horror movie.
Never seen the boss room though, we had no PPU to rez me ^^
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Make the boss room Smaller, Remove all the boxes, Increase number of mobs there.
Remove all zones from the game, Make only one zone, Remove all geometry except for a flat ground, Make all mobs able to shoot across the entire zone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haxxor
Removing the Boxes & swapping some Sluggers with Regant-Troopers (armed with Plasmaweapons) may do the trick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haxxor
Troopers need to have their Combatrank increased for this to work,tho.
If contamination would work the way it did in NC 2.1,this whole topic wouldn't exist btw
GREAT OPENING POST. clearly well thought out and logical. Definitely in the right place too considering this is the brain port. maybe we should create a 2nd subforum called the Nobrainport and put some of the threads like the opening posters in to there.
oh wait im gonna get ignored/treated as a troll. NOOOOO. back on topic. Yes excellent idea to add in the mutant troopers. that would spice it up AND make the difficulty that bit harder. (ps the troopers are from the regant pa run)
Also yes the nightmare does need to be tougher if not a total nightmare but then pve in general needs an overhaul. I think that the instances like regants should be there for teams and the wastes should contain areas that are there for solo players as this will cater more for each style of play. Not everyone always wants to team up or be solo. mix it up for the sake of fun. Caves for teaming fun for definite.
I agree that the nightmare should be more difficult. It should be an epic event and require a large group of players to take it on. It should be terrifying to take on and unthinkable to attempt it with a small group. This would mean people waiting around for teams for a while (especially if unclanned) so perhaps the doors to the nightmare, or even regeants itself, should only open at set times. People could then try to work their other things around it.
Because of this, the xp/reward for killing it should be equally impressive. That thing probably eats a lot of runners so who knows what could pop out? As well as having it drop it's own unique item (on rare occasions) it should randomly drop items that can currently be found only in specific locations (bat queen bones, viper king armour, even some FSM only items). Going up against the nightmare should have players excited at the idea. Excited about the event, the teamwork, the xp and the loot, but it shouldn't be a farmable source like firemobs etc. Making it blisteringly difficult as well as the auto-lock doors would keep it in check.
I suspect I may get death threats for this suggestion, especially the timed doors, so feel free to ignore. :p
Nah.
Most things in NC can be achieved (often in fact, achieved best) by a small group of runners. I'm not in a big hurry for that to change.
I could certainly get behind the addition of some kind of bigger challenge. However the current Regant's Legacy and NIghtmare are not the place or setup for it.
Also, any changes for the Nightmare have to remember that it's also spawned in the Regant Lab bossfight, along with the rather evil Regant Himself.
nice ideas jodo but i think the casual accessibility of nc in todays modern mmo world should be retained. time locked doors go against this. i think its unfair to penalise/reward people on such a basis. scratch that one.
Loots and xp etc. Yes im in full agreement. it needs to be a thing that is a challenge. stock up that room with mobs that actually do stuff and arent just a pile of xp waiting to be reaped is definitely something that needs to be addressed. Put some Mutant super warriors like the mc5 bots in there with the plasma rifles from the regant run as mentioned. that would beef it up. Keep in mind though that it is a contingent for the AK quest and, while also being somewhat easy in comparison to other gun runs, still needs to be accessible to runners.
Fair enough. I've always felt disappointed that "The Nightmare" is something people seem to do while reading a book.
If Regant boos room get a fix then crp/catlock and all those similar cave need one too. No reason that 120/120 doesnt deal any damage and 60/60 can kill anyone (who's not rly paying attention or watever).
It feels like 2004 in here...
I know this is the brain port, and all suggestions are welcomed, but I feel messing with regants in unnecessary.
I am all for making pve a challenge AFTER classes have been balanced, and pve itself is fixed and made fun. Right now it is a mess. fixing regants right now is akin to trying to make a piece of shit into a cute brick with your hands.
To be honest, until pve is fixed, I like regants being an easy mode leveling option. The rest of the game's pve is boring as shit and not too fun at all.
You either out range something so you aren't 4 shotted, play a droner since you can solo most content, or play with a ppu glued to your ass. All that needs to be fixed first.
THIS!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Forget My Name
Easy leveling > slow boring grind
And I want people to kill.. Dont want people to level for months tbh.
Levelling is part of game and always will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropout
Bit of a patronizing response? I agree with forget my name and dropout tbh.
Everyone wants things easier, and everything handed to them.
I don't know what the OP said cause it was so garbled but you can run straight through Regants to the boss room and it can be cleared in under a minute. Hardly a challenge there at all.
Sweeping generalisations to go along with a very pedantic previous post. You're on a roll tonight. Did you ever hear the phrase when youre in a hole stop digging.
Seriously. The OP wants regants to be harder. How many times has this sort of stuff come up. NC is not a fluffy carebear PVE game. It has survived based on its pvp element. The quicker more people get to be able to do that the better.
If you want a challenge in pve then go play some single player games or play wow or 100 other pve games. What exactly is wrong with easy levelling? It gets people into the pvp that much faster. That can only be a good thing.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Antrim
I do not want NC to become another shitty pve game. Its all about the pvp and the faster people get to the fun part (..pvp) the better.
Sorry for the short replies today btw - SO tired.
Equally, if you want fast PvP go play counterstrike.
Those games (CS, BF, CoD and so on) are missing some pretty important Things that NC has.. Like the ability to make an awesome setup..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodo
I do regularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodo
I like the dip in and out pvp of nc to be honest. I like the change of pace from BF3. I play Skyrim for the Pve.