This is a video a transsexual friend of mine made from our last OP Fight.
I post it, because this forum is too hetero for him.
enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhR8FdZAoHQ
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This is a video a transsexual friend of mine made from our last OP Fight.
I post it, because this forum is too hetero for him.
enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhR8FdZAoHQ
hope there is a lot of male to male combat in this one
Please check your damagelog
Fore sure and just the info. Hes a WoC APU and can get his Fireapoc to about 1000 spelldmg which deals around 500dmg pure dmg on ur character due to its given efficiency (around 50%).
500dmg - shields - armor - skills. The result looks fine.
Thanks for your attention
Dr. Watson aka Powerpunsh. :angel:
well, he's been damage hacking for ages, dunno if he was in the video, but damage logs show him damage hacking almost every time he comes out.
That is some pretty blatant hacking, its pretty normal in neocron now. Why he didnt just go the whole hog and do the two shot kill FA thing like most sandwich APUs tend to do is beyond me. Its not like he would of gotten banned. Its not like there are GMs around.
Powerpunsh, stfu: beyond taking a million drugs as a "set up" you obviously dont know anything about this game.
Its hilarious to see the dev tanks running around deving people who are a good 20-30 feet away and never mind that its the HC tanks who are outrunning spies, ppus...everyone, with a weapon out. Thats really common in NC now. Fight some of the SOAD tanks and they will cleanly outrun a quad with their HC out.
This is neocron now folks. Pretty much anyone who if they went to google would get directed to google.de is using sandwiches.
hahahah
powerpunsh noob!!!!!
round about 500 raw dmg is max ^^
learn some shit about that game
Posting about cheating in Neocron is like saying it rained somewhere in the world today.
fixed.if you ask em why,they tell you the usual "1xx atl base" storyQuote:
Originally Posted by CrushOr
the difference is that immune tanks actually fraps their fights and setups :p (there's a reason why NO soad people who get accused of cheating fraps themselves...)
but close this thread already... there's no point, everyone thinks they know who hacks, and it's always the other guy, so no point until things can be proven.
Thread closed, this ain't going anywhere! *waits*
He gets hit 4 times at one point and lost about 400hp.
Later in the video it looked like he lost 400hp in 1 hit, but it was the damage from the first hit registering late as he was hit by a second hit. meaning about 200 damage per FA.
I wont say he doesn't use sandwich's ever, but it doesn't look like he is in this video.
Can we have some better music in this video? :D
ibtl...
That first big chunk of damage at the start of the video is an obvious fire apoc from an obvious sandwich soad apu. The only other weapon which would even have a chance of doing that kind of damage is a silent hunter or an ionic pistol.
No one uses Silent Hunter.
Ionic pistol I didnt see in the video but doesnt mean there wasnt one there, always shooting him from off screen everytime the apu also hit him, exactly at the same time every time, all the time.
Whats even better is to see at what distances these tanks are landing dev shots on. That grey no PA tank has basically no shame. He'll hit you on the roof of the op from pretty much where the UG is.
Also look at the absolute torrent of CS shots coming from a tank on the opposite side of the opp. That is more accurate than dissy, healing light, etc. dissy will miss at least 25% of its shots on an even slightly open crosshair almost 80% of the time. I wonder what that CS tanks crosshair looks like....actually I have a pretty good idea.
Anyways, its not like any of this is going to amount to anything. There are no GMs and pretty much all of the GMs we've ever had have been seriously incompetent. The tradeskillers they always choose to be GMs think a monk running around with an ionic cannon is normal and a damage sandwiching spy is ok as long as he says "but I have 330rc lololol111!1"
have you played lately? cuz I see close combat sh users quite often :p (usually terrarists or soad though, although it's not that hard if you put the sensitivity of the mouse up)Quote:
Originally Posted by CrushOr
Quote:
Originally Posted by Biglines
lol biglines ur a good guy !!! but thats a LIE.... i only see fraps vids from PPU !! but from no other one
and see if I want IMMEDIATELY ScreenShoots was never anything but when mister willy in the ass what did he get it from us and why not with the AK freq or Agil / Atl screens with chatlog? And that's a fact!
and i know different things from invinci !! when i see him i post him some screen ;)
no idea what ur saying. I haven't played for ages, but back then, every time master matthew or penas was accused, a video would go up on xanu's youtube of thta same moment... (including the visible chatlog). We just stopped giving soad videos when the same people that kept posting videos, still kept getting accused.
But I guess you're talking about that photoshopped screenshot of invinci supposedly doing thousands of damage on an apu... that was such an obvious photoshop (it even showed that in the fileinfo), it was ridiculous... (plus I saw the fraps of that same moment, showing nothing ofc)
I never get accused of cheating though... which really hurts my ego :(
You do know why that is though, right. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Biglines
Soad got rid of that APU, but that guy is still in their clan with his tank.
It's pretty funny how people are saying fraps doesn't prove anything.
Because to me, it does.
Edit: Anyone ever tried Playclaw with NC?
@ Ratakresh
1. Dont call me a noob if u dont know me
2. I can tell you out of my experience that hes not dmg hacking. I did alot tests on my tank as i came back for 1 1/2 months to find out a new max setup for him.
Here a little extract out of my documents.
"Fire Apoc 886/411,931"
First number: The given dmg @ spellinfo
Second number: The given dmg @ damagelog on headzone
btw: I havnt seen just in one scene that the Spy is getting any red shield so maybe it was alrdy shot down? If resis are low shields loose their "condition" much faster. If he took like 3 Fireapocs + healing up before he started frapsing or showing us this part, the fourth fire apoc is doin way more dmg then the first. Shields loose condition and thats nothing new. That why u can recast them after some shots/casts...
But ye, maybe you are right im a noob. Sorry for being noobish and my shittalk you could feel in your way. o_O
So you see. Thats what i told you.
1. The dmg in the spellinfo is worth nothing in this game. you should allready know that.
2. your second number 411.xx from the dmg log is the original raw dmg that spell is doing at the head hitzone. (i said its maxed at about 500)
assuming that he hits with 411 dmg the head with resist from example only 60% resist fire + heat buff + shield, he will do round about 164 dmg. but remember we are talking about apus... so there is psi resist too. i know for sure that peter lustig has it, which more likely let us guess,gives him round about 70% resist in fire.
So test it yourself: Take an Apu give him 236 Psi Use, 200 APU and 200 Focussing. He will do a raw dmg from about 450 dmg to the head, which results in a total dmg about 135 to the head. thats what you got!!!
and dont come now and say ohhh he skilled everything in APU.... the result is the same.
even without the protector the spy has like 60% fire resist, which will never allow any apu to do more dmg then about 190 to the head.
ohhhh and btw... look the video again. the apu never hits the head ^^ only body and feet.
it still stand...learn some shit about the game
psi resist is only resist against stacks, not spells, a fire apoc does pure fire damage ;)
the maximum amount of damage on my semi-damage-capped (as in, impossible to get more damage except with drugs and/or woc3 pa) on a bad fire-resist spy has been around 250-300 damage, and this is standing against the person, with fully closed recticle (which can only happen that close, at a distance the recticle doesn't close completely and does way less damage). In any real fight, it is impossible to get above 200 damage per shot due to moving, aim, recticle and distance from the player
what surprises me in that video is the amount of damage that apu resists... even the resist-skilled apu's go down to that much damage...
as a sidenote, one of the soad captains already admitted that those apu's are hacking, and that they bring them out because other clans cheat (so, every time soad gets beaten). "we bring cheaters because you all cheat!", most stupid logic in the history of nerd-rage.
sry to correct you biglines, but psi resist is working fine against alls psi spells. ;) i tested it 5 minutes ago. so my last post is with accurate stats from my woc 3 apu and spy.
oh i know soad does that. even the apu player told me he cheat.
i will only show the players who dont know so much about the game what is possible and what not. and how to read this stuff a little bit.
how did you test that then? because all the tests ive seen and done indicate otherwiseQuote:
Originally Posted by ratakresch
to be honest I'm just waiting for the day an anticheat patch comes (if ever), and on that day, immune will be fighting as usual, and all of a sudden half of the current population will have "computer problems", or can't "get used" to the new patch.
tripple log with apu, ppu, spy, shooting my spy with and without psi resist, seeing the dmg done in game and in the dmg log.... thats how dmg test work aren't they? ^^
uhm, seeing as the damage logs don't take resists into account, that's odd.. also, did you just lom out the psi resist? just for testing?Quote:
Originally Posted by ratakresch
well they right log counts the dmg. and gives you the % of resist. so if i take an apoc and look ingame how much hlt i lost and match it with the dmg log, i say the log is pretty accurate.
Local Player:Damage() - Damage processing statistics!
Damage: 447.366 Target Feuer HitZone 0 - Part 0
Damage: 344.768 (Reduction: 102.598 - 22.934 Percentage) - Damage caused by PSI
Damage: 241.337 (Reduction: 206.029 - 46.054 Percentage) - Damage reduced by shield
Damage: 192.952 (Reduction: 254.414 - 56.869 Percentage) - Damage reduced by player armor
Damage: 136.090 (Reduction: 311.276 - 69.580 Percentage) - Damage reduced by player skills
Results of this target: Damage 136.090 (Reduction: 311.276 - 69.580 Percentage) - ResistanceCap: 0.800!
see thats my log with full spec at psi resist.
do u have the log for without? (just interested to see, might be worth investing a few points in psi resist on my apu)
no sry, i deleted the log, but i give you the dmg log of a devo shot. the rest you can calculate yourself. on my spy with 75 points psi resist its about 10% more fire resist.
see devo shot fire dmg. the fire resist is only at 60%.
Local Player:Damage() - Damage processing statistics!
Damage: 182.249 Target Feuer HitZone 0 - Part 0
Damage: 127.574 (Reduction: 54.675 - 30.000 Percentage) - Damage reduced by shield
Damage: 101.997 (Reduction: 80.252 - 44.034 Percentage) - Damage reduced by player armor
Damage: 71.939 (Reduction: 110.310 - 60.527 Percentage) - Damage reduced by player skills
Results of this target: Damage 71.939 (Reduction: 110.310 - 60.527 Percentage) - ResistanceCap: 0.800!
60% fire resis without protector shield on a spy? Please send me your setup. :)
Unless Peter lustig wont tell us his setup he used in the video, we cant judge anyone for this. Maybe Peter lustig hate some guys loomed all his fire resis on purpose to harm them.
If the protector is shot down under 10% Peter lustig would still take 50% fire damage, cause the psi shield + armor + skills calculation isnt the same. Also we dont know if he has skilled psi resis which seem to work, though its still buggy. :P
Next time if you think any guy is cheating, get in stealth alt+tab open your current damagelog and post the damage.
Not that it matters to anyone but if I remember correctly peter has bad fire resist on that spy. I haven't played in a wile and I blame Xanu for that lol, but I remember him being much weaker to a certain damage type. It might have been poison thanks to his lol battle armor setup but it was one of the two.
edit: After thinking about it for a min, it was probably poison and that was a wile ago...so nvm...