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I am trying to optimize my riflespy on fireresists and was wondering what damage do firemobs else cause? Energy?
Furthermore, should fire and energyresists be the same? Or should the energyresist be skilled higher? Not easy to cover both resists in a eligible manner on a spy (head/body/legs).
thankful for any proposals.
br morph
Dont think firemobs cause energy dmg..
If its a pvE spy, just go pure fire resists.. Be warned though, a grim persi will destroy you in seconds (or less...) if you get too close, no matter how good resists you have.. ;)
The character will be useless in pvP though.
Don't they do Force as well as Fire? Definitely not Energy though.
yes, yes and yes ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Phil
i'm using regants pa, heavy kevlar armor with the heavy firebelt, 50 fire resist skilled and thinking of using fire absorbing drugs and firenanites. don't like the drugflash tho.
Don't bother with drugs, they are going to kill you fast anyway. Your best defence is just not getting hit. But for when you do take damage, they do fire and force.
As for the nanites, your better off again just not getting hit and using your nanites to heal with a tl40 tool.
but that goes to the cost of athlethics and resists (fire in this case) to get health 75.Quote:
Originally Posted by Genji
not sure if that pays!?
You can have 75 base ath with 75 total hlt and still have like 50 fire resist.
Or since you're just doing pve and no pvp 50 base ath would prob be more then fine. Just use the heart that gives like 14 hlt and you only need to spec like 61...And yes, the tl40 tool heals alot better.
edit: as I had said, a few extra points in fire resist isn't gonna get you much as far as being killed in a few hits. The extra healing would prob help alot more when you have fire stacks rolling.
Most of the damage you take will either be from fire stacks or the instant and usally invisable force damage they hit you with.
think i will consider trying it out. thanks :)
The best way to deal with Firemobs is distance and a zoneline to duck into in a pinch.
There is nothing you can do to protect yourself from a Grim Persecutor. I do not exaggerate in saying that it can instantly kill a fully buffed ppu instantly.
Eh a level **/30 ppu? my non speed specced tank, can take a full hit from a persi, and only go down to half health.. A ppu should only have a problem, if he needs to rez next to one..Quote:
Originally Posted by flib
I guess I should clarify. I meant standing right in front of one.
grim percy is bugged to hell tbh, it can take on a rhino and win, while every other mob in the game needs 10x as many mobs to kill a rhino.
ive found that using a sh and staying out of line of sight and ducking behind cover to block the fireballs is the best way to deal with percies, and like flib said, stay as far away fromthem as possible to hit
Its quite a problem when they shoot invicible fireballs though..Quote:
Originally Posted by Biglines
Man i have been dropped some times by those bastards, on my spies :mad:
never had that problem, ive always died to perfectly visible ones ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Phil
Grrr.. And people wonder why I(!) hate pve..
Get a Rhino Tank.
wow, a new account just to revive a thread 2 years old :D
Haha yeah, AND with a horrible idea.. Creed tank > Rhino..Quote:
Originally Posted by Biglines
Not everyone has access to rares, which is why they want to hunt fire mobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropout
Im offering an alternative to getting one of the higher tl rares.
Yea, heres a good idea for everyone, even if your new. Go get a tl 114 rare item to kill fire mobs, taht drop the rares you need.
Or go get a rhino, more attainable for a newer player.
The rhino is a way to avoid the damage which is what the thread was about.
So stop being a elitist prick, and offer something useful rather than bashing right off the bat.
I used this method to get a shit ton of rares back in the day when i didnt have rares, or droner.
So yes, this is a viable way that can be done without having access to rares.
Sorry for offering advice that does not require you to already have access to the end game rares, or free items. Prick!
Yea. Never made a forum account. Ive played the game since NC1 though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biglines
Didnt really notice when the last post was tbh, was just stoned browsing.
Im sorry, but lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by Haze
Get a 0-slot creed for max 500k, get full inq armor and a camo PA.. There you go, you can now solo firemobs, and kill them much faster than you could with a Rhino..
Btw, a Rhino takes a TON of damage from firemobs.. 1 Persi vs. 1 Rhino - Persi will win, unless you keep distance.. So why not do the same and kill the mobs faster?
AND you need 2 people to use a Rhino properly.
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Originally Posted by Dropout
Yea. One person repairing, one gunner to maximize it. Not everyone can dish out 500k+ for items. And not everyone knows all the exploits that can get them easy cash. 500k was not easy to come by for me without the use of drone exploits before i managed to get higher end items. If your not exploiting and abusing game mechanics, most things take two people when your not decked out.
My arguement still stands. Two low end players, one with gunner , one with repair can hunt fire mobs without having access to high end equipment. Or dupe, exploit, get freebies from people who probably exploit.
Your talking about throwing aroudn 500,000 cash for a shitty 0 slot item to hunt fire mobs a bit faster. Im offering a suggestion on how to do this when you dont have 500,000 to waste on a rare that your only going to use for pve.
There is not only ONE way to effectively do something. Different circumstances mean different approach. If new server comes up, im not going to waste 500,000 on a shitty creed, when i can spend alot less take a friend have more fun doing it in a tank.
the point is really that this thread was about a bug in the damage of the firemobs, which is irrelevant to how you shoot them.
A rhino will cost far more than rares to repair (repair nanites are expensive!), and if you get it killed (which can happen in seconds if u get stuck between bugged firemobs), they cost a minimum of 250k to build (a rhino 3 takes 10x weapon part X, which is 25k in the fsm).
Less rage man..Quote:
Originally Posted by Haze
About the costs of the Creed... How much do you thing that Rhino is gonna cost ya..?
Those Arent cheap either..
And if you dont have at least 100k by level */20, your doing something wrong..
But sure, Rhino'ing is a way to do it - if your leveling with a friend. However Theres quite a lot of people whos leveling solo..
You dont NEED a Creed either.. A Ravager will do just fine. Hell, The TT Epic cannon can do the job just fine.
And dont accuse me of exploiting. Your speaking to someone who has never gotten a single warning on any of his 3 accounts durring the 6 years he has played..
IIRC the corrupt/broken/malfunctioning cop bot in the mines in "g something" dropped a nice strength 80ish laser cannon "my buddies and i referred to it as the baby creed, not even sure if it drops in the game anymores... Cant find it up http://www.techhaven.org/db/weapons/heavy
Its the TL 90 storm laser and it still dropp =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Norris
So the general consensus is that the fire mobs do fire damage and force damage. Im guessing 0 piercing damage?
As a tank I have 75 into health for the healing tool, and also put 75 into fire for the resists. Purchased all the Gods Wish fire resist armor. From strength I have 50 into force and 50 into piercing resists and the rest into heavy combat. Should I just LOM the peircing and go more into HC? Unless of course they do some piercing damage.
Also use a 2 slot Storm Laser which isn't bad for now, doing 400 damage to them per hit. I do see some people hitting them for about 550ish or so, but i'm only at 96 str for now.
75 into health - con
75 fire fire resist - con
50 into force resist - str
50 into piercing resist - str
Should I remove the piercing resist since i'm currently only fire mobbing for exp/tech parts ??
I don't know but there was a damage log but i forgot where it was and how it could be activated.
I found some info on how to look for the actual damage in a log according to the info from:
http://wiki.techhaven.org/Neocron_Wi...ide#Mob_Damage
But according to that it says to look in the file called Damage_00 which is supposed to be in the neocron/logs folder but my folder doesn't seem to have that file.
Anyone know where/how to check the damage log?