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Yep i agree, the AK is definitely overpowered. It's like the xbow, both do more damage than they should, but they're not THAT bad. They piss me off a lot but you can setup against them. If the freq of both was toned down a bit, i would be happy.
AK is worse than CS is my opinion.
That gun is bugged I swear. Hoverbots run away from my hcpe! I feel like one of the old 118/112 uber hybrids from early NC1 with that gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocalypsox
I just wanna see the apu spells more powerfull, it's pretty hard to lvl by my own... and i really want to see new/old skins ingame.
Well they do piercing damage too :) I have no trouble with cars so i dont think they are over powered tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocalypsox
Please Please Please kk, make hybrids viable. Atm they are really really bad.
There are multiple posts on this but just a quick rundown of suggestions: (Not all ment to happen at once, just different ideas)
-Remove Apu/PPU malus
-Buff Apus (indirrectly boosts hybrids)
-Increase effectivness of selfcasting the higher tl sheild on a hybrid, atm they are considered forign cast.
-raise the resist cap on a hybrid from 75% to somthing higher depending on PPU points speced
-Hybrid Powerarmor, Some APU and PPU
-Boost effect of hybrid heals, atm tl 40 nanites outheal a hybrids selfcast blessed and even holy heals.
Anyways, those are just a few quick ideas. Some are mine, some are not. Some are ment to work with others, some would work better standing alone. One thing that is clear though, is hybrids and APUs both need work. I say start small, tweak the numbers. If you do it slowly there is little risk and it should be relitivly easy to balance them.
Oh yea, and fix melee while you're at it.
Some more thoughts for the brainport:
- Fix Melee, Add more Melee weapons, and some that do more damage...
- Increase the viability of Hybrids.
- Fix the missions for the incredibly hard to find mobs.
- Improve the aim on rocket launchers.
- Do something about the random blowing up of the observer prototype... I don't know how many times I've had them blow up on me. :( Good thing I have a resser and a conster, but still :lol:
- Reduce the reliance on team based combat, since there seems to be few players, though scaling mobs difficulty to how many runners are in the area would be sweet...
- More weapon, item and armour models (some of the early nc ones were sweet)
Amen to that. Please do fix Hybrids. Hybrid PA is another good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by onero S
1) Fix charactermovement, damagecalculation and solidify objects so there's no more clipping or bouncing health. Rework all physics to include stray bullets that deal damage, instead of just bouncing off whatever they hit.
2) Rework and optimize maps, so that the number of zonelines can be reduced.
3) Rework the whole combat system from scratch, remove the target-boxes and give models a complete framework of damage-zones, just like every FPS today.
4) Content, fix the broken classes, add new things to fill the gaps.
5) Remodel the current player models to actually look like people, instead of the current anorexic anime characters.
6) Update the old world textures, all of them, to fit the new shiny playermodels.
7) Fix the mission system in the Citycom. Currently, getting a mission's like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get. And when you're out of your favorites, you go postal.
Extreme? Yes. Necessary? :rolleyes:
Wow thats quite the list. While I agree with everything on there, some of the stuff is just not going to happen (or a least soon)Quote:
Originally Posted by Proxy
4) Content, fix the broken classes, add new things to fill the gaps.
5) Remodel the current player models to actually look like people, instead of the current anorexic anime characters.
7) Fix the mission system in the Citycom. Currently, getting a mission's like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get. And when you're out of your favorites, you go postal.
Are all nice, also some sort of a clipping fix, though understandably I doubt KK has time for a full physics rework atm.
The whole list is great, and we SHOULD see all these changes eventualy.
Aye, it's very unlikely we'll ever see any of these changes, to be honest. That's why they call it a wishlist ;)
Make NC free - has saved a few dying mmo's.
Introduce a ingame shop, real money for mc5's, woc discs, woc pa's, slotted rares w/e.
Watch the population go though the roof and u still make money.
- still have to fix the netcode, apus and melee tho. ;)
Find a filter to stop people posting so much about current issues and actually SUGGEST NEW IDEAS to make nc great again.
I swear about 30 people have said "fix apus or fix melee" in this thread.
We go now to Barry Pepper reporting live for Neocron News Network (NNN) in Plaza 2 amidst a full scale riot outside Rocco's sea food diner...
Studio host "So what can you tell us Barry?"
Barry Pepper "Well it seems that since the year dot the people here have been campaigning for melee to get fixed and apus to have better damage. I had to fight my across the zoneline huggers to get an exclusive interview with one runner. He asked not to be named for legal reasons however, but when I spoke to his friends they all repeated the same mantra, parrot fashion. It SEEMS everybody wants melee and apu damage fixed and theyre making damned sure we know about it.... Back to the studio".
:)
I thought this thread wasnt just about ideas, it was about peoples wishes too. And it seems alot of people wish melee and apu were improved, personly I dont think apu is all that bad a class, it is still playable and there are still some very good people playing it. But melee is ridiculously underpowered its damage is laughable.
One thing imho that would improve the game for all players, especialy noob characters trying to level, is simply improve the citycom mission screen. Only seeing 3 possible missions at a time is an absolute timewaste, especially seeing both tradeskill and combat missions, perhaps a tradeskill/combat filter would be usefull. BUt it would deffinately be usefull to display more than 3 missions per page.
Its been almost 4 years since i posted this. Still would like to see something like this: http://forum.neocron.com/showthread....=treasure+hunt
And scripting capabiliteis like we had with Mightys "ItemGFX". I know, ancient, but i loved to have logging capabilities for cabinets, and ways to connect to databases from inside neocron.
[QUOTE=Reaction77 personly I dont think apu is all that bad a class, it is still playable and there are still some very good people playing it. But melee is ridiculously underpowered its damage is laughable.[/QUOTE]
There are some people good at playing APUs, they generaly can beat bad players on other classes, put up an ok fight against normal players on other classes, and get rocked by people who are very good with other classes.
Just because some people are very skilled doesn't mean a class is fixed or ok. APU have a disadvantadge in almost every situation, as far as I can tell there is no reason to play the class. Thats not balanced.
As for your comment about citycoms, agreed, also, have somesort of NPC in faction HQs who will advise you on places you could be fighting depending on your lvl. So for instance if a /15 talked to him he might suggest the aggie cellers and tell you how to get there.
It would also help noobs figure out how to lvl up without being quite so "lost".
Some ideas I've had, added into a list, a fair few have already been posted by me. It's a work in progress and I'll add more as I think of them.
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WOC
WOC PA's
Any of the following is fine;
1. Drop the "Woc Temple Cost" of getting woc 3 PA, increase the chances of getting GOLD through events etc, perhaps allow GMs to hand it out in the way that medals are.
2. Make WOC pa epic so that it is worth the cost.
3. Increase the bonuses or REMOVE the negative effects.
EG: Give WOC pa better resists like +30 xray for tank, +30 energy for spy or something like that. Or reduce/remove the negative effects.
Alter the Tank pa's visor I hate it being black, make it err red or something.
WOC Weapons
There are plently of woc rifles/pistols, but I have noticed the following, all of the rifles are low tech. Only one of the pistols is hi-tech.
There is one useless BUGGED HC weapon that fires at a 45° angle towards your feet. Not sure if it's damage output matches the moon striker.
So I'd like to see the following, a total of;
5 Lowtech weapons for each class (apu, ppu, mc, hc, rc, pc, drone.)
5 Hi-tech weapons for each class
I'd love to see a minigun like the current style (by the hip).
Autocannons, single shot cannons etc etc.
Something for trade skillers - WOC tools that do any of the following;
1. Decrease chance to break/fail an item.
2. Increase chance for a slotted item.
3. Give a chance for an additional slot.
4. Increase the amount you get for savlaging/recycling
5. Decrease the lube used.
6. Decrease the time a process takes.
7. A new implant for barters that again gives a little bonus maybe +5 int, +5 barter, +25 transport. (unless the additional barter would break the barter barrier.
APU/Hybrid/Melee
All of these I think and seemingly alot of people agree need tweeking.
Just something to look into.
Furniture
I'd love to see some new furniture come into game, also trophies, how about a new master of a juggernaught fighting off soul clusters? Or a bunch of city merc guards fighting twilight guardians etc? Special faction trophies, BT vs Tanget, TS vs BD, Crahn vs FA, etc. Different types of trophies like Warbot 1 2 and 3. Doing different things, one like the current, another firing a missile etc, mutant trophies, dog trophies etc.
Also I think CM need a new appartment; Officers quaters, something a grade above the standard appartments, for generals etc.
New plants and some small trees would be nice, TVs, steros, hi-fis, etc etc.
Epic items
Need looking at DRE give you a rat infested crap-hole to live in... Shouldn't they offer the BEST appartment in all of neocron?
The only epic items I think are any good are the Reveler (which needs it's gun fixed) Protopharm resistor. Review the epic items and make them worth having, maybe remove all the weapons and replace them with something non-combat. EG: Tsunami could give you a really hot choice of strippers, maybe even a completely nude stripper who does a special kind of dance, unless you can place them because they need to be NPCs, in that case just a very hot stripper who can maybe act as a recreational unit. TG could give you a cool vehicle or something, like a new kind of glider or something? Biotech could give the moveon still but tweek it so it's better, maybe make it give ath/agil/health. (endurance is a pointless skill which no on specs so ignore it, specially since you just use boosters, imo REMOVE the skill it's a waste of type/effort and confuses new players cos they think they need to spec it).
Black Dragon could also offer a cool appartment better than that crap dome one that looks as if it got hit by the Ion cannon out of Command and Conquer. Make a cool pepper park appartment for them. Tanget could offer a choice of eyes or something that are a little better than the normal eyes, or a special droner pa? Fix the Tacyium glove so it's worth having make it better then the CAG 3 because other wise WHY USE IT? Geeze.... The epics the hardest one out there and the item is useless other than for a paper weight.
City mercs could get err.. well I dunno a new rhino style vehicle? Maybe a hover tank that'd be cool... or some sort of armour of your choice HC PC or rifle.
MISC
Add in gogus in the ceres tunnels for players to put junk in.
Add in gogu in regants, main room and boss room.
Add a ASG at regants so you can despawn your vehicle, often people drive there, then have to walk back because their vehicle either got destroyed or despawend.
Work on some bugs, like the vehicle bugs,
Rhino going invisible for certain people after zoning etc.
Blue screen of death after zoning.
Taking damage after zoning, to legs.
Stamina drain after zoning into sector with water in it.
Fix weapon AMMOs. add in ionic cannon ammo and ionic pistol ammo instead of them using rifle ammo. Increase the ammo for the grenade launchers, assault rifes, smgs, gatlings etc. Because they go through ammo so quickly 10 clips of gatlin ammo last alot less than the ammo for an energy cannon, it's also heavier so you can't carry as much, the result? While a person with an energy cannon can last say 20 mins with 5 clips, a gatling cannons 10 clips may only last 4 minutes or so. (no figures are accurate just an example off the top of my head). So increase the ammo EG: instead of a grenade clip holding errr 8 rounds? Make it hold say 36. This is the AMMO not the gun. So although you still reload as often, the ammo lasts longer (Do not change the weight as they usualy weigh more anyway.)
Graphics
Finally work on what 2.1 or was it 2.2 was supposed to be. a Graphical
update.
THE END
... I think
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Originally Posted by Zheo
Had briefly mentioned this in a op-war complaint thread, but here is my fleshed out idea for a change to op wars. Disclaimer: My knowledge of how op wars currently operate is from the forums only, since I haven't been in any since I've been back.
Right now, there is nothing to stop a clan from ninja hacking the entire map. Or even legitimately taking and holding it. But I think both are a problem. Here is my suggestion, that the amount of ops you can hold and hackers needed to hack an op will scale as the clan size.
The scaling will use the total number of members. So without further adieu, here are my numeric suggestions. The numbers I provide are mostly irrelevant, and mainly meant to give flesh to the idea.
< 5 members: Unable to take an op. This would prevent people from creating small clans of one hacker to supplement their larger clan and let them take more.
5- 9: Able to take one op.
10-14: Able to take two ops.
15-24: Able to take three ops.
25-49: Able to take four ops.
50-74: Able to take five ops.
75+: Able to take six ops.
It'd be nice if op scaled to hackers as well.
First op: Two hackers, three layers.
Second op: Three hackers, three layers.
Third op: Three hackers, three layers.
Fourth op: Three hackers, four layers.
Fifth op: Three hackers, four layers.
Sixth op: Four hackers, four layers.
Or something to that effect.
Why - Diversity of the map can only be a good thing. When two or three clans own the entire map, you are relying on them to be for a fight. But when the map is split between 8 or 10 clans, you have multiple options for op fights. Also, key ops will have a greater appeal. Certain out of the way ops with little to no appeal can be left alone and not be taken just to prevent your main enemy from having it.
Side Idea: Increase the number of ops by making several in city "ops". For example, the Main Sewers could be divided into two or three ops. The Outzone and Industrial could have a couple of key locations for ops. Mainly because rushing to the Main Sewers to defend an op sounds amazing. :P
This is only minor, but please make the heavy kevlar belt researchable, I think it's the only kevlar belt that cannot be researched. :)
I forgot to add this to my neocron improvement post on my blog, but this idea just came to me while I was browsing the forum, hehe.
I believe that NO heavy belts can be researched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nytewolf2k7
Man some of these ideas have been talked about for years :p and then some i see that are new i really like Keep then coming and maybe once Black prohecy is out of the way we'll see a secret Neocron 3 project !!
The heavy deflector belt is researchable, it's used on the FA Epic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riddle
@Jest, I do like your op holding idea. Holding and taking ops is something that does need a good look at imho.
I stand corrected :p was thinking of like the fire/energy/Poison belts i have in my time tried to res lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Brammers
Holding an op should cost money.
And you should have the ability to let other people use the facilities for a charge.
[Reposted from the latest OP war thread and elaborated on cause now I don't think it's such a crazy idea (even though no one replied or commented on it..)]
The current system of hacking 4 layers is kept. After the 4 layers are hacked, the prior owning clan members get flagged. To fully take the OP 10 kills must be made (even 10 of the same runner), by anyone, within 1 half game day (3 hours) giving a money reward to the killer, after which the OP changes hands. Otherwise the previous owning clan regains full ownership of the OP and the flags drop.
If the clan has members online and chooses not to defend properly, they will be targets wherever they are on the map, if they don't have anyone online (or just a few poor suckers who have to log off) the clan regains the OP shortly.
Effects:
- No offline ninja hacks could take place, with the effect of gaining OPs, although they could take place anyways just to flag members, but that is part of the hazard of owning an OP under this system.
- No one clan could hold the whole map or even 'many' OPs, they would be constantly flagged, and losing their OPs in the process.
- This system would 'encourage' clans to defend their OPs because if they don't they will be targeted anyways and defending gives them the chance to hack the OP back before it is taken, and avoid the flags.
- It's hardcore. 'Bring the war to your enemy..'
-A possible flaw that should never happen, a clan that takes many OPs and then every member quits the game for good immediately. I suppose a safeguard of some kind could be put in to counter that, but I really don't think it could happen, if it did it's banning time and KK could reset the affected OPs or something.
the lab and factory outposts should have some kind of equipments that helps to research or construct that gives better stats or stuff like that and for the researcher and constructor should do lower stats without the use of these machines/equipments....
Like lifting the quality cap by 1% per factory owned? Maybe quickening research times for labs. That would be neat. :)
encourage ppl to form huge clans and zerg all factories, rather than get your share of the ops and let other clans fight for some too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Glok
...sounds like a plan.
Couldn't happen if KK implemented my OP war system. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by aKe`cj
edit: And it happens now anyways. -.-
The other thing I want to raise, and to my mind more important, is that the next big focus should be on revamping the way systems work. That is to say missions. That is to say OP wars. That is to say item aquisition. That is to say even tradeskills. The things that stick out as not being quite right. Those features that were never really implemented. The things that underline what there is to do in Neocron, yet don't really work. (eg Op Wars rely on people being nice to each other to even happen - if you just want the op, its easy to have, missions aren't really that useful to most people in any real way). For some of my previous musing here, read this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by [thread=141555