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maybe we'll need psi manip stacks to appear visually differently because of the stack size.
But it's a general problem, like with poison dots : here it is what i think it could be great : once your screen is filled with dots, just display "X more dots..." somewhere. Currently we don't have any idea of how many dots is running on you - and it's very frequent when you play a PPU.
I can't really stomach reading these threads anymore.. I hope someones been representing the nerf them to nothing POV.
*waits patiently.*Quote:
Originally Posted by John Doe
mick ele =dQuote:
Originally Posted by elem3nt[]
yeah para is problematic in that thesedays anyone who is paraed is ripe for dmg boosting, which in turn would lead to death... unless the attacking person really really sucked....
wrt the buffs, making them weaker accross the board would be nice. and remember to nerf the heals down too so its balanced across all the psi using classes.
so erm yeah.
tis been a long time ....
speak thy thoughts dev.
rawr ..... i hate stale threads :(
balancing monks = making psi resist work tbh.
i can't remember which official said this but it was something along the lines of "a player who would normally lose 10 out of 10 fights to another player will not be able to beat him with a PPU"
as long as it's like that, then i'm happy :)
And giving tanks psr on armor/certain imps tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocalypsox
Depends entirely on how it's organised. PSR isn't a necessated change, it's one of several routes that could be taken.
I dont even care about this thread anymore. It's a complete waste to post here seeing as though the gms basically said they're done looking at it and are going to give a more descriptive repeat of it.... sometime....
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Originally Posted by giga191
why? its 2v1. Are you telling me that if one shitty player on say a tank, and another good tank fight one guy, they should still not win because of the bad player?
A ppu needs to give a 100% boost to a person he is supporting or else he is usless and might as well be another player. The catch comes in in large groups.
If you have 6 dmg dealing classes, and 1 ppu can buff them all to 200% effectivness thats an issue because then the ppu is worth 6 players in effect.
The trick hence is to make ppuing very much limited to who the ppu is supporting at any given moment, instead of two minute s/d how about very powerful very short duration buffs?
How about a psi system that requires budgeting of psi and determenting what spells to use, not just a prohibitation on RoF.
Not to mention, it would make ppuing more fun if its all about fast paced reflexes on the part of the ppu, not about slapping on buffs and then just hitting people with heals.
The "heal" as we see it should be nerfed a lot, To compensate a single burst heal should be added, then make s/d last say only 6 seconds forign cast. Let ppus keep their perma s/d self cast. But then the trick would be, oh somone is going down, shelter, single target heal, dot heal, and move to another person.
I'm not for the "Neural Overload" system, because if a PPU gets it, why not an APU (I don't know if it's the case already or not :lol: :p )
I think the balancing idea is really cool, altough I don't think it's not really going to change anything about the game system. Even if we "nerf" PPU to the max, Passive Psi Users will always be welcome in an OP war, welcome as 1 PPU per damage dealer/player.
A thing that would be cool is to "divide" the Holy Shelter into 2 others spells like 1 for Fire/Poison and Energy/Xray damages, so far you could use some skills to put up those shelters up, offering the other classes the possibility to remove one of them. So far we have been reducing PPU abilities with the character skill, but it's more a question of how a good PPU support people, and harder is his work when he has to cast more shields to his team.
That would let the PPU be harder to play, but also, that would mean there would be more PPU in a OP war :(
PROPOSAL:
I say remove most of the single cast spells for casting on other players and only have group spells available for casting (except a few, like DB). Then at least the PPU has to say within a close proximity to the team for players to benfit from their spells.
WHY?:
It would solve so many things. You would not have to time each cast on each player and remember the order of players cast for re-casting spells on players. A player that decides to run off on their own looses the team spells (why benefit from team buffs when you are no longer a part of the team). A PPU can then do something else at the same time as keeping everyone else alive.
HOW IT MIGHT WORK:
If you have any current self cast spells on you of the same type then the group spell has no effect. Another group spell should not be able to override an existing one until the existing one wears off.
I think the direction they may (and I hope) be going is that a PPU is intended for team PvP, as in a large number, not tag teams. A PPU and another fighter class alone would be at a disadvantage to two fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by onero S
So a PPU might boost people around 50%, which would be less usefull to PK teams, but of greater benefit to a caving or OP team.
I also see it going this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dribble Joy
In another game i played, i dedicated 50% of my skillpoints into a profession which, when properly used, gave everybody in team something like +20 to +25% of performance. (So i myself was at around 75% of a "normal" setup. )
Alone or in small groups, it definitely was a disadvantage but when groups got bigger, like in larger scale PvP, my team outclassed most others.
Though, i also admit, supporing a big team in NC is harder than doing it in the game i mentioned, so +20% probably would not be worth it, the goal might be closer to your +50%.