well to keep it in the same theme lets say dont buy a house from a company who builds houses on ancient berial graveyardsQuote:
Originally Posted by DigestiveBiscui
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well to keep it in the same theme lets say dont buy a house from a company who builds houses on ancient berial graveyardsQuote:
Originally Posted by DigestiveBiscui
WTF, how come some will be better off with the snapshot????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Quote:
Originally Posted by Thanatos
WTF are u doing???????????????????????????????????/
everyone will be better with the rollback as everyone will have the chance to make some changes
if someone is prepared already it doesnt bother him at all
and if someone is not prepared - the snapshot fucks all their accounts beyond recognition
WTF are u smoking? There is a better way, its just you obviously have choosen the WORST ONE
Certainly looks that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sakletare
Might I suggest 10Tacel invests a whopping $34 for the future :
Bckup Utitlity : MySQL Dump Timer
Either that or pay someone with Clue[tm] to manage it for you.
Well, I was looking forward to NC2 but as I have no chance of sorting my saturn chars out i'm probably not going to buy it :mad:
I seriously think KK should consider the roll-back to sept 5th.
AHAHHAHAHAHHAh
ITS APRIL THE FIRST !!!!!
LOOK ITS APRIL THE FIRST!!!
!!!!!
No :(
its 27th of September
:( :( :(
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by DigestiveBiscui
you seriously trust in their words after all these years?!
Christ, I'd do a brain x-ray if I were you.. geez...
I have never made a demand like some people do here all day, but this is a bit special...
Reakktor, you'd better get everyone you know and their cousins to start working helpdesk so when NC2 start you can retrieve items from peoples account on NC1 and transfer them to NC2, and give everyone that played Saturn lots of free play time if you want to keep any customers.
I VOTE YES for a rollback 5th september !
ooooo yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Capt. Rik
then again i bet MJS is currently legging it out of germany
Actualy the fun i derive from this game if from the people i play it with.
It' about the sense of humour some have, and having a good laugh.
I can have all that in another game too.
WWW.MMORPG.COM
C'mon u brits :-) Let's look for something else.
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God blimey, I cant speak for my brother but ill let him spam the forums like a bitch when he gets back, havnt even told him yet either, he would probably leave his lectures and go straight to the computer room.
Thinking back through the 2 years we've been playing, I have to say this is the worst thing that has happened to any server. The quickbelt items have taken literally years to acquire, there is going to be a real feeling of loss as this announcement sinks in. I think its terrible, and KK should be ashamed.
Personally I organised my characters around that time, so for me its 50% either way (50% for my 5 Slot Pain Easer, 5 Slot Holy Lightning), but I think that the events of the last few weeks have shown many people that Neocron is on its last legs, that this whole 'sequel' was a mistake when the original servers should have been given attention. I've said earlier that I thought it was a sideways step, well now I'm convinced its actually a bacwards step :(
If you are going to screw us like this I want one question answered - why did this problem happen NOW?? Come on guys, don't you think its a strange coincidence its happened this week? Did you stop maintenance on the server in September? Did you move resources over to the Neocron 2 and Beta setups? I am extremely suspicious of the timing of this problem.
I think that many players will share my suspiscion, and I think that this thread will explode as more people read the announcement. I also think that of your choices, you should have gone back to 5th September because it would allow players now to log on and get at least the majority of their items ready.
Whats going on KK? What about show some respect you can't just delete everything people used months to get like that. Make a rollback give people time to fix their stuff again, Im not running around whit my 5 slot rares they are in GOGO god sake do you know how much time you need to get high slotted rares, mc5 chips, everything that you earn in this game COST alot of time and thats not fair just to trough all out time OUT!
Do we get any compensation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thanatos
A free month?
10million credits on start of DOY?
Do we get the option as a server to poll whether we want a roll back or not?
No
No
No.
@ Nippa, your continual accusations are shallow at best. Bring proof, Bring a screenshot, a script, any evidence.
Sadly you never will, why? Because there isnt any, and I genuinly think you hate the fact that I own yourself, and 99% of cartel without cheating, Scarey
fucking retard
KK you call yourself a fucking company? I could do a better job with 10 teenagers than you do at organizing Saturn. You may as well say good bye to your most active players, which are Saturnites and any future playerbase as I am sure we as a community can do better at publishing negative things about NC2 to make people not want to play then you can advertise for new players.
All this time people have waited for NC2, and now you cut out one of the largest communities because you can't employ people who know how to run a fucking database and keep it well maintained.
I hope you go bankrupt, as you deserve no better unless you provide a solution that either makes everyone suffer for this fuck up or Saturn the ability to set characters up.
man... that sucks....
Sorry to hear for all you saturnians..
but I gotta say.. thank god I play uranus....
Im going to phone dilly now, lecture or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkservent
@Xylaz, tbh, everyonne not as calm as me should stfu. Yes you too.
It's no time for getting personal, and I ain't even gonna bother replying more than this.
Also, at KK, you planning on any way to make up for these poor souls?
As is stands with that lousy Excuse of a solution lets be quite honest here you are going to loose alot of people from saturn....
Pull your finger out and actually come up with a better answer.
you are talking 1/4 to a 1/3 of your customer base here dont come up with its too time consuming etc..... !
I'd certainly prefer it to stay as of 20th, I managed to get hold of most of my stuff between 5th and then (and due to paranoia) chucked it all in my qb.
Thats just me personally though
OMG, OMG, Dilly has all his nicely stuff in GOGO or Inventory on his cstr. OMGQuote:
Originally Posted by Clownst0pper
Firstly we get the epic stuff wipe, which I thought yeah, I can see their point and can deal with - ALTHOUGH it did piss me off that they didn't tell us earlier as I did 5 epics the day before this announcement.....
This also has meant that I now have characters in the wrong factions, and will have a hard time getting them back to PP and BT to get my epic chips, although not the end of the world. My Pro city ones can probably easily change over and eventually I will have the chips.
BUT
In NC now I have my newly Crahn'd hybrid monk, set up well for PvP and clan wars, with all the spells I will need freshly made. However with the lack of backing up of data and rollback:-
In NC2 he will be PP, so looks like I will have an insanely hard time getting to Crahn.
All that setting up and tweaking is gone - down the drain.
All my freshly made spells, mostly 3,4 and three 5 slotters are most likely gone - depending on when this snapshot was taken. Most likely I would have been setup for levelling with replaceable passive spells, my 5 slot holy energy barrel and a no slot psi attack 2.
As for my tank - I think he had his POB on him, all the right chips armour etc, which isn't so bad is it??? or is it? well his QB was to hold the POB, his DG, spare POB, and loads of PA for my other chars which they didn't have space for....
Oh and my spy, can't forget her - or maybe I should since now she is stuck without all her levelling weapons, to take her from 80 dex to cap...
so my question to KK - are you able to do anything to help us Saturn players out? you have gimped virtually all saturn users chars, and are likely to lose a few accounts.
On another note, if a company like BT, British Gas, or any other service provider fucks up, they compensate you for it. If you can look into how much downtime we have had to put up with, then give us a refund pro rata, I am sure people would be most gratefull.
I am seriously considering starting what was once a joke - The Neocron Players Union - to ensure that the total mistreatment of paying customers wouldn't continue (if it worked, and with people like Richard Slade around it'd be less likely (cock), can you imagine the looks on their faces when EVERYONE cancelled their direct debits and worldpay payments. We would certainly get some fucking respect then - but hey, I am dreaming right?)
pff... lets tell this to game mags and game websites.. and lets see how manny ppl are comming to BDoY then
Oh my god.
But I changed out a weapon part 1 for a weapon part 1 blueprint after the 20th.
:lol: lol. :lol:
This is fucked up.
I will add this to the list of bad ways to run a mmorpg.
so why cant they delay for 1 day keep saturn up a little longer allow peeps to sort out anything they can salvage and then do a nother backup at end of week for the remaining players on saturn it cant be that hard
the ones that want to go now can transfer there chars and be delted from the saturn server the ones that need more time could stay on the saturn server up to a week to sort there chars out and then come over to nc2 is it really not that simple problem solved
Thanks for wasting the last month of play time KK. Nice to know your still concerned about fucking us over at every given chance. Thanks for giving me next to zero time to change factions on 6 of my alts. Thanks for wasting a month of lomming. Thanks for wasting a month of trading so I could ensure I took what I needed to NC2. Thanks for the compensation that you will never offer despite fucking us over again and again.
I'm really speechless. I took some time Tuesday and got most of my chars ready but I still had some work to do on my PPUs. Now, only 1 or 2 of my 8 chars is ready and my tradeskiller won't even have his damn tools!
Customer service rating: Ulcer inducing
Ability to deliver what you've promised and been payed for: Abysmal
Hope for DOY: Fading fast
Likelyhood of my reactivating for DOY: Shot to shit
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If there is no compensation I think anyone who leaves as a result of this fuck-up should actively publisise KK's inability to run a MMORPG successfully. They wanna screw our hard work over, we can screw theirs over.
Dude, 15 days of XP gain is easy. Recovering tools that cost upwards of 1.5 million is NOT if the Economy is as hosed as Closed Beta wants it to be.Quote:
There's just no "right" way out of this,
The right way out is to give people the option of taking their Saturn Snapshot OR their Saturn Sept 5th-adjusted chars with them. Make an extra table in that conversion database for all the Saturn chars. Delay the Saturn people's entry into NC2 if you have to, but that's the RIGHT way out of this.