Tank Proposition #1

What about adding it into Int and creating a new skill for the use of their new tool such as "First Aid" or "Medi Tech" skill which allows them to use stim packs without OD'ing themselves etc. Medi Tech could also effect how well you use med kits. (but not by much) EG you'd need say 40 points to cap med kits and use stim packs (This would mean tank's would still be using psi).

Or if you put it in dex make it so tanks cant use any rare pistol and rifle weapons and cant use non-rare that well, then put in an agility cap in? We could see "Recycle tanks" and "Repair Tanks"

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Originally Posted by Zheo

What about adding it into Int and creating a new skill for the use of their new tool such as "First Aid" or "Medi Tech" skill which allows them to use stim packs without OD'ing themselves etc. Medi Tech could also effect how well you use med kits. (but not by much) EG you'd need say 40 points to cap med kits and use stim packs (This would mean tank's would still be using psi).

Or if you put it in dex make it so tanks cant use any rare pistol and rifle weapons and cant use non-rare that well, then put in an agility cap in? We could see "Recycle tanks" and "Repair Tanks"

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Heh - Phayse had a brief stint as a repper and then a recycler when he was a lowtech tank.

Think i like those changes so much i'll be making a gen tank, I also think they should lower the INT needed to drive a rhino or give tanks special driving tank suits, why ? Well real soldiers drive heavy combat vehicals into battle not some skinny geek...

Id like to see the psi pool divided between INT and DEX lessening to "'Ard PE" problem which might occur and giving tanks a little bit more brains for the occasional bit of armour or a weak hacker who can hold his own alot easier.

Not keen on the heal "tool" i think any technological type of healing (as a tool which can give live must be quite advanced if you ask me) should be the spy's domain.

Not sure what should be used but rather than having something you can hit a few times to basically have a TL3 heal how about having what ever it is heal you about 1/2, 2/3 or 3/4 of what a TL3 heal does now (or at a more balanced state) instantly with a cool down around the same time it takes for a TL3 heal to take it's effect. Less health at the same intervals with the bonus of this over psi being the fact its an instant effect.

Rationalising the tool is easy - anybody could understand the operation, but the things it does to the body, while ultimatley healing, would destroy a less tough creature (IE spies, monks) in the process.

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Originally Posted by CMaster

Rationalising the tool is easy - anybody could understand the operation, but the things it does to the body, while ultimatley healing, would destroy a less tough creature (IE spies, monks) in the process.

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have to agree with that soz q

the reason it would be mosty for tanks is because a tanks body was built for it. tanks are geneticaly hardened humans with a much better immune system... i doubt a weeker creature could surivie hundreds of nanites riping through the imune system rebuilding parts of the body.

Im all for it if its some sort of intense nanite injection rather than a "heal tool" which from the stand in name sounds a bit dull. Id still like to see some sort of improved medical healing rather than tech outside of spys though.

Leave tanks how they are an just tweak weapons and equipment.

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Originally Posted by Hell-demon

Leave tanks how they are an just tweak weapons and equipment.

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Disagree! I hate it that theres too much psi ingame. Tanks shouldnt have it. They do need a decent heal tho.

Again, dont just keep it as it is. Damn you Hell-Demon

Perhaps it would be possible to add in different levels of stim packs? Like one for low level, one for medium and one for high, each doing a different heal amount like Low 15, Med 30 and high 50.

However it still raises the problem of tanks losing the other psi buffs such as def, basic, mc and spy. While other classes would keep that with psi tanks would lose it, the only way I can see to drop psi and conpensate is with implants.

So a heal tool that would heal 20 - 30 health or a psi heal. I dont see the difference. Is it REALLY necissary to remove psi on tanks? Is it over powered? I dont see any reasoning for it. I think it should remain as it is. Most tanks will probablly remove their passive psi and put the points into resist psi anyway.

I agree with whats his face who posted a few above this about adjusting weapons. Does anyone else see a problem when you shoot a buffed apu with a cs and a red 30 pops up then a yellow 30 pops up? If you are lucky enough..and the monk is dmg boosted then u may get a 40 or possibly a 45 if all the bursts hit. But that red 45 will be followd by a yellow one before you get your next burst off. Now i havent played in a while but i hear the heal is being nurfed which is good. But i think that either the holy shelter dmg should b SLIGHTLY******* reduced or ceartain weapons should do slightly** more dmg when the other person is buffed.

This is my point, why have a heal tool when a psi heal is just as good.

The extra intell skills will go into weapon lore making HC tanks more powerful, the added dex in conjuction with pe stat rebalance makes Tanks more desirable than a PE.

Seriously tweak the gear not the tank.

thantos thatss goign take up alot of slots to heal my tank:(. ON top of it what happens to the shield buff that we ccan cast on our selves. OH and honestly think +10 to int would be better then a +!0 to dex. ON top of it all instantly healing really does not help a tank out much. Usually we have such a bank of health a little time for the heal i not a game killer. INfact a iinstant heal with less health be more usefull on like a spy not a tank. I dont see this workign right at all =(. I hope be proven wrong if you go ahead as most of your ideas have sounded real good.

Keep in mind I do want to see psi removed from tanks, but the way your doing it im unsure of.

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Originally Posted by Hell-demon

This is my point, why have a heal tool when a psi heal is just as good.

The extra intell skills will go into weapon lore making HC tanks more powerful, the added dex in conjuction with pe stat rebalance makes Tanks more desirable than a PE.

Seriously tweak the gear not the tank.

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I play a PE but that said, perhaps the tank should be a bit more desirable?

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Originally Posted by Hell-demon

This is my point, why have a heal tool when a psi heal is just as good.

The extra intell skills will go into weapon lore making HC tanks more powerful, the added dex in conjuction with pe stat rebalance makes Tanks more desirable than a PE.

Seriously tweak the gear not the tank.

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Because now when a PPU comes along, they don't lost anything. Because now they dont have to spec points in bloody PSU to be competetive. Because everyone should be less reliant on psi, and the mere 10 psi that tanks get should give almsot nothing useful.