the 'Draw your Character' thread

Hi :)

Sorry I haven't posted in a while. I've been pretty busy :(

I read the planfile earlier!

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Originally Posted by the planfile!

The most important and biggest goal for this Add-on will be a complete revamp of the player models and all human NPC's. We aim to raise their level to the quality of the new weapon models. Important will be to embed the new models in style, detail and texture in the Neocron atmosphere in a better way.

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I am very excited about this :) I was totally amazed by how well thought-out and detailed the weapon models are! They're all so high-tech and futuristic, but don't seem too similar to what the technology is like now, and aren't so far-fetched that they look like alien guns. I'm sure that the talented art department will come up with something that everyone can enjoy!

Although... Why should they have all the fun? Why don't we all doodle pictures that are embedded with style, detail and texture that would fit into the Neocron atmosphere better than the current models do? :)

Maybe if we do enough doodles, the devs will take notice and be inspired by one of our designs, and model it! :)

I am personally hoping that there will be more clothing variety, as in, each faction would have a different choice of clothing to choose from, in addition to having many more models for clothing (robes, sleeves, dresses, skirts, etc etc) that can be changed to fit the situation better (I played AO a while ago, and spent all of the money that a generous player had given me on all sorts of clothes! I had a combat outfit, a formal outfit, a party outfit, a dining outfit, and all sorts of other cool stuff. I had a blast!)

And I am also hoping that there are a few new animations put in with the new models. Most notably the animations for casting psi spells... I think there's a little bit of emphasis on the brain and head in the casting animations, but the wiggly hand parts, and the 'hold heal/S/D/buff psi ball above your head' really makes it seem very fantasy-based!

So, with the last two paragraphs in mind, I doodled this! (sorry it's not really finished)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...03/TS-monk.jpg

I think this one came out pretty well :) She's supposedly a Tsunami Syndicate Psi monk, sporting a sexy, sassy, slightly shamanistic, yet sophisticated outfit (try saying that one ten times fast, alliteration rocks!)

It's probably really tough for you guys to see where one article of clothing begins and the next ends since it's not in color and everything's grey, but I think the overall idea is still clear; accentuating the womanly body parts and camoflaguing the rest, pretty much!

She's casting a heal psi spell, although this version is supposed to be more 'smokey', and less 'bubbley' than the current one. Its casting animation would be much more fluid than the disco-dance that psi monks pull every time they cast a passive spell!

Eventually what I plan to do is make little 5-6 second shorts showing the animations that I have in mind; it's not terribly difficult since it's basically drawing the same thing like 30 times, but it's very time consuming and I won't even attempt it unless I know that a dev would seriously consider using the animation for reference or something, or if other people try to do the same thing :)

This is the 'draw and interpret your char thread', not the 'hey! look at rosalind's, DJ's, and occasionally clive's doodles thread'. There's been over 16,000 views (wow!!) as of now, and pretty much only two people are regularly posting doodles :(

This thread isn't here to show off technical skill, it's for you to show everyone else what you would like your char to look like. :) If you don't feel comfortable showing your doodles to the rest of the forums, you can PM me the picture's link, or email me the file at mawee3@gmail.com, (I would really really love to see your doodles. I'm very good at giving critique without breaking hearts and smashing dreams, if you are interested in becoming a better artist! :)), and if I feel that I am able to, I'll try my best to re-doodle it and share the same idea with everyone else (with your permission of course!! :))

I really really appreciate everyone's comments but I would love it so much more if you guys would at least attempt to doodle something (or at the very least, describe it in detail)

And finally! Asurmen, I don't really like doing doodle request unless you try doodling first :P I know you can do that!

Really really looking forward to seeing everyone else's doodles!

Aw, Sunny, don't I count? :(



That's a pretty nice sketch, but again, I fear that you're feeding into the "Monkz aer teh wizardzs!!! lol!!!111" travesty.

I did a couple sketches a while ago that showed psionic energies whirling around one's head, energy coming out of his eyes. Perhaps also distortion ripples around his head. After all, with a Psi, his brain, his mind is his power. It makes much more sense for energy to emanate out of his head.

Didn't also the Firestarter movie show fireballs coming out of that girl's head? And in Farscape, with the, er... Scarrans, with their semi-telepathy that they use to crush prisoners' will, has a heat-distortion effect coming from their head towards the target.

Nice one rosa chick....rawr!

Really like the look of that psi monk.

what i would do for a female monk (if i could fuckin draw) Is have an over size
black gothic glove (For anyone who has read battle chasers you know what im
on about)with chains coming from it which wrap round the arm upto the
shoulder. prolly something like the collar you had on your drawing also, then a
leather vest cut at the mid drift but at the back moves down to a sorta cape
just below the knees. would also have black baggy jeans (add a make shift chain
belt with lil large padlock for shits and giggles) with armor style boots.


Would also be cool to have more in the way of piercings for both male and
females. Some really cool neck and bridge piercings would really rock.


if that makes no sense shoot meh

SiL ..:..

I was half expecting this thread to become more popular when KK made the announcement about new player models in the planfile, not nearly instantly fade out of existance :(

You're right, heavyporker! It would make more sense for psi-related stuff to come out of the head, since all that stuff is related to brain strength and toughness! I'll try to illustrate that in my future psi monk drawings (or maybe you could give it a shot too!)

SIL - That's a very descriptive idea you have! It sounds very stylish! I'm having difficulties finding a picture of the glove thing from Battle Chasers, is it safe to assume that it's like Hellboy's stone hand, only more like a psi glove? You should definately try to draw it, I'm sure it would look really awesome no matter how badly you think you doodle!

I drew an outfit for a spy in black dragon! I tried to make it have a sort of chinese aura about it - BD doesn't seem to be like the faction to hang on to 800+ year old traditions, I know, but I thought that having a futuristic, sexier version of a qi pao/cheongsam would be kind of cool! It uh, probably would hinder movement since it's very flowing and constricting but it would make a cool tradeskilling or formal outfit!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...agonformal.jpg

I had a lot of difficulty with the face, and I think that I could have done a lot better with the embroidery on the bottom, but I still think it's pretty cool. Sorry it's not finished, but if noone else will even think about putting an hour into a drawing, why should I?

The lack of color in this doodle will probably cause some confusion, especially since there's a lot of stuff happening in the outfit, but I think the message still gets across.

I think having a very large, diverse, and easily customizable selection of clothing and outfits will make the world of NC seem that much more immersive, and having seen what KK's art department is capable of through the guns that they made, really fills me with a sense of hope, since they're very graphically talented and are capable of creating objects that really seem to 'fit in' with the setting. But like I said in my previous post - why should we let them have all of the fun? We should show them what we think we should be wearing in the game - seeing as we're the customers and players and all that :)

When I played anarchy online for about 3 days, I spent all of the moneys that I was given (because I'm a woman and everyone likes to give women free stuff) on like a million different articles of clothing. I made a combat outfit, a fancy elegant outfit, a team uniform, an excercise outfit, a lounging around outfit (and probably a lot more, this was a really long time ago) and had a lot of fun doing that. It's a shame I was nearly instantly bored by the game, not to mention that the graphics weren't so great on my computer, and the setting was too 'out there' for me.

Really looking forward to seeing some doodles (please don't let this thread die! :))

yep, sunny, I've already done a few pencil drawings of what I'm trying to convey.

I do get what SiL's getting at, but in Neocron's mileu, full hardware hookups aren't always necessary, you know? Psi augmentation could be done using the body's neural network and circulatory system (in case chemical... inducements... are required for the enhancements). Hence the suprisingly elegant psi gloves that we see now.

But I'd frigging love to see what I think would be "obsolete": psi gloves and equipment that needs full hardware hookups, like SiL's idea.

Nice work once again rosa chick


Here is a pic from the cover of battle chasers

http://tetsuoo1.free.fr/shadowmanga/..._gathering.jpg

Would love to see a glove about that size but with a gothic/cyberpunk feel.


SiL ..:..

More shitty DJ stuff.

Hair's all wrong. I'm getting annoyed with my some what restrictive drawing style too.

http://aulial.v0dk4.com/NC/aisyniaofneocron2.gif

What a cool little doodle Aisynia! I really like the minimalistic approach to the shading that you did! It's so subtle but really adds depth to the face. I'm also a fan of the expression; it's not a simple 'boo-hoo, look at me, I'm sad!' face, it's a 'I have some bad news for you...' face, which is so much deeper and more expressive, not to mention harder to capture! I'm really looking forward to seeing more of your doodles, you obviously put a lot of time and effort into them!

I was inspired to try to create a sorrowful, expressive emotion like Aisynia did but it didn't come out quite as stirring as his :P It's boring and generic and didn't really turn out to be what I was aiming for (this is more of just a ':(!!!!' face as opposed to the 'I'm sorry!' I aimed for)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y173/mawee03/sad.jpg

I like the hair though, it was inspired by the early 90s when the hip trendy thing to do was to fluff your hair up as much as humanly possible (good times!)!

DJ - I think you have a very unique style that's capable of expressing several thoughts and ideas, I would really hate to see you change it! I know it's really hard to give and take advice through text, but I think it would really help your feelings of restrictiveness if you tried to focus on motion first, and shapes secondly. Try to keep your hand moving in one direction (for example, start off with only drawing lines going up and right, then after you're finished with all of the up-and-right lines, finish the doodle by drawing all of the down-and-left lines) it's really hard to understand, but I think that drawing things through that method would really help your feelings of restriction by giving things a more 'voluptuous' appearance. if this confuses the bejeezus out of you please send me a PM :P

Really looking forward to seeing more doodles!

Thanks for the compliments Sunny, it's appreciated :)

Though I would never call something I have to literally spend 3 days on a doodle, I understand what you mean :p I spent about 5 hours on the original drawing, then a couple of days working on coloring and shading after it was scanned in. Looking through this thread, I actually use some similar processes that you do, though I avoid freehand with a mouse as much as possible.

I won't say I don't have any talent at all, but I have very little, so I compensate with patience :p Most of my artistic talent lies with writing drama (as in stories with a lot of deep character emotion and interaction). I recently started drawing because where I publish one of my fan fics.. there is a space next to each entry for a picture, and I really didn't like staring at a big "NO SCREENSHOT" image.

I'm getting better, but I don't expect I'll be as awesome as you are any time soon. Truth be told, I just don't spend enough time drawing as opposed to writing. My two current drawing projects are a comic for Neocron (a funny one.. hopefully.. I'm not a very funny person.. well not intentionally) and another for my fan fic I mentioned. That picture has been sitting stagnant about a month because... it's missing something. I have some ideas, but meh.. can't come up with the energy to look at it lately..

Also, I agree.. subtle emotion on a face is hard to capture. I spent about 3 hours erasing and redrawing the eyes. I almost wore through my paper.. and I have really nice professional type erasers lol. Most renditions made her look like "holy shit, I'm gonna die in about two seconds.. and I just witnessed the deaths of everything I ever held dear!"

My main problem is with depth, I have a HARD time with depth. I'm very happy to hear you think that drawing has depth, because most of my works I feel lack a sense of it.

As for shading, I have experimented with several kinds, but I like this the most. It's actually a borrowed shading style, from the way most Final Fantasy and some anima characters are drawn in stills. The shading is very subtle, barely there, but it gives that sense of depth and I'm glad I was able to pull it off, because it was very, very difficult.

Finally, I find it interesting, your interpretation of her emotion. Every person I've shown it to has had a different opinion, but yours (your opinion on her mood) is definitely the closest, it's almost spot on. I'm gonna write a fic involving that character, but I need to straighten some facts out before I do so.

Sunny, you really shouldn't downplay yourself by insulting your own work ("It's boring and generic") and consequently, yourself, it's not becoming of you :) It's not boring, it's not generic, but ya it does look like she just watched her puppy get hit by a car :p If that wasn't what you were aiming for then.. well that's what an eraser is for hehe ;) I think all of your drawings are superb and are truly artistic. I like the line style you use. While I wouldn't use it personally, just because it's not how I draw (and I would feel like a ripoff), I love it, it's splendid. I'm not honestly sure I could pull it off anyways. My first few drawings were freehand mouse, and I got sick of "draw, ctrl+alt+z, draw, ctrl+alt+z, draw, ctrl+alt+z, draw, ctrl+alt+z...". So if you can actually do that without much undoing, then.. well, you've got talent pouring out of your ears :p

Much love, if you wanna take a look at my other stuff and maybe gimme some pointers and opinions, PM me. I've also always got an ear (and an eye) open if you wanna do the same.

Ill post some new stuff tommorrow^^ Im working on Unreal engin stuff for class tonight. Not all of its NC related though.

PS-Welcome to the jungle Aisynia. Enjoy yer stay :D Ill help out in giving tips from time to time.

PPS-Sorry rose for not posting more (even at all =P) Really my concerns have been shifted more to school more and more, and NC is really loosing my interest in how there running things right now (more so since Im studying in the industry). Ill have "something" tommorrow. PEace out

Well guess what, I got some things to show, too bad there not colored :( Anywho, these are some Concepts of a few guys Im gonna be modeling. The small guy is a "dwarf" by the way.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ierconcept.png
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...bersoldier.png

PS-my scanner is a piece of garbage lol

What I meant by a restrictive style is that, if you notice, all my pictures are in the 3/4 view. If I ever try to draw front on or anyother angle it falls apart.

I know how you feel in that regard. All of my drawings except for one (which I drew with a point of reference instead of from my mind) are head on. There is something in my brain that somehow cannot properly interpret alternate angles by itself.

This is that pic. Her skin being blue is a long tale, dictated by the story of the game for which I wrote the fan fic to which that pic belongs (mouth full).

http://vnmedia.ign.com/acvault.ign.c...70_fullres.jpg

good stuff aisyn! Id really like to see a full bodied character^^ I know itll be nice to see :D

Anywho, heres anouther modeling project, im gonna doa front side picture in a while

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ly/mechyay.png