Not if you don't allow item or cash in the transfer, purely the capped char, naked. No imps no armor no weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by NAPPER
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Not if you don't allow item or cash in the transfer, purely the capped char, naked. No imps no armor no weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by NAPPER
no woc either, just the xp set to the required level for capping the base stats of that chars class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanedax
You're right. I must have imagined the part where, at a certain time every night, all the GM's have signed off so they can sleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kame
Potential exploiters beware: the GM's are able to watch what you're doing 24/7!
I never actually said napper had a spy i said someone in nappers clan already has woc who's a spy so.. i never actually got it wrong atall....
Also! i think in about 6 months or so a transfer would be ok when the population has most of its gear ready n such
Probably, but I'd say an absolute no, here we have a brand new server, a brand new server means fresh start, and guess what its close to 300 players each night, all enjoying the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by cl0wn
Whiny bitches are what ruins the fun, a small minority of people who kick and scream until something is done in their favour and the rest has to suffer...
/edit mark my words any premature character transfer would kill this server, especially if those characters have woc weapons which they have gained through exploits using drones, they didn't use a team they used drones and safe spotted with them, that should end now, it should take a team of people to gain those weapons as originally intended.
what is more, you people from terra with your wocced characters would come onto the server and steal all the outposts and then lock them all so no body can level unless they run half the map to get there, then you would sit on help channel with your retarded smack talk acussing each other of hacking etc.
Some of the reasons I could never actually continue playing on terra even if they moved it to a more stable server.
And the difference is...? Well sure, its now only a select few people, that has done those Things. But it has still been done on Titan though.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiL T
And no, it wouldnt ruin anything to allow transfers from Terra - as long as they wont do it for another 3-4 months.
Now let this *self censur* thread die already!
I'd be ok with this in like 2-3 years if you guys wanna wait till the server is established before messing it up with transfers :)
hell yeah BAN every droner! insta BAN everyone who finished the AK run. they must have used an xploit to get where they are now.
AK Spys such a silly excuse for being against a server transfer....
Well, if they're gonna let people run around with AK's, then they might as well level the playing field.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garfield
If you know the GMs are watching at night and these 'Exploiters' are still here then im guessing they are droning the right way.Quote:
Originally Posted by flib
K thxs bye
People here are such hypocrits lol.
It's easy to see who gained the most xp/money the fastest through the term, and 90% of the top 20 ppl in the first 2 weeks i have actually seen use drones/exploits myself.
I'm still against a transfer, but I have little hope that Titan is not going to be the same like terra in a few weeks.
I doubt any transfer from Terra to Titan will be allowed, but if it does, you're welcome to come back to this thread, quote this message and type "LOL U WRONG" at my face.
P.S: Isn't most of the genreps to outposts closed at the moment anyway?
Plz lrn2sarcasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by NAPPER
I have to agree with OP. It really sounds like you are labelled as bad and a potential cheater if you come from Terra. Yes, of course Terra had it's bad players but also people who invested time into their account.
I would really be with that whole wipe-out vibe you seem to have there but, as of now, can you claim of having fixed ALL the exploits in Neocron? Do you think there will be a balance with this new server, knowing most exploits are still out there?
The only thing that would make me redo it all over again (after 7 accounts you can now imagine I'm feeling a bit tired, same for a lot of other people) is if PvE would get a very good fix, because even in that field I think Neocron has the potential to shine.
Edit WoC: It is funny that everyone assumes everyone got their woc disks by exploiting as a drone. Maybe YOU did, but I can recall going to the caves with Dropout and Invinci's clan with doomie tanks and barrels APUs. We spend a shit load of time going there hunting for WoC discs.
Super easy fix.... Do not transfer the actual character, just add skill points to an existing Titan character to match an existing Terra character. Problems solved and casual players rejoice.
and the gms cry. not the easiest option by a long shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by chutza
either allow transfer then every existing character on titan go "poof!" since most of us have only one account and have created chars on those specific accounts. or Not allowing transfer, so all existing chars will grind as they were normally and let the whiners whine as always.
IMO, no transfer should be made available at least on server titan.
right. leave titan alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Setlec
Many things have been said, and every side has real valid arguments.
But NC has two big sides. The Endgame Op-fight/pvp pp3 etc stuff, and the struggle to get there.
I like both aspects, but i must admit, that i wouldnt have spent so much time as i did the last weeks on Titan, if i had my capped Chars ready to go.
Its true that i had some more free time than usal, wich made it easier to be online quite a few hours, but i really had lots of fun doing it.
The first epic, the first rare weapon, the first constructor hitting the 200+, all those things now really meant something -again, and i dont wanna miss it.
On the other hand, i can understand that not everyone wants to go through this process again and again, but thats also a very big part of the game.
Look how hard it is to find enough players for the test server, where everything can be obtained all artifact in a couple of minutes, and still its deserted most of the time.
So, i can only speak for myself, but i would certainly deprived myself of lots of fun time, if i had my chars transferred (even if its hard to INT Cap a ppu, or woc a pistolero).
Titan is all new and fresh (or it was at least) and i think its more a chance than a burden.
Just my 2 cents.
But as the decision is out of our hands, its a pointless debate anyway.
Its rather the question of being able to have fun now, or getting bored to wait for a transfer, that may never come to continue being bored, because theres nothing left to do.
For me only a transfer without inv and quickbelt would be acceptable.
No Transfers!
Weeeeeeeeee.........
+ for transfer but with strict rules.
for example:
transfer only 1 character per account with his current exp, implants, armor. Only characters with.. lets say lvl 90+ main skill can be transferd (saves us from multiple clones, bringing 100500 WOC disks).
maximum of 2 mill Nc.
just items in quickbelt
no appartments exept starting one
nothing from gogu.
Account holder MUST have free char slot on Titan.
in this case it cant ruin economy of Titan. Only problem would be with same char names, but that could be solved with adding some number/letter at the end.
I used to play Nc1 since 2002. had 2 capped chars and shitload of rare and unique things. then I quit for a long time.. in 2010, I came back, and I was too late to revive my old chars.. so I had to start again..
ok, so I played for some time, capped 2 chars again, invested my time and efford.. And now I have to start all over again ?
I'm not asking to return me my copbot rifle or 3 appartments filled with Nc1 rare weaponry.. I dont ask for 100500 WOC disks.
I just really dont want to level same characters again, to have own Resser / Conster / Poker / Repper + main char
P.S. I would just continue playing on Terra (with nice current patches), BUT, unfortunatly, we dont have that much overall population, to spread it on 2 servers. Its just no fun.
Proper transfer gives no advantages at all, it only saves alot of time.
Double XP gain permanently on Titan, and forget about transfers of any kind.
I'd love that with all my heart ;)
It's all about end-game anyway.
endgame is boring, imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by L0KI
playing a melee tank from scratch.
just an awesome experience :-)
I've got a great idea. Why don't we just take the neoconstruct from the test server and put it in retail. That way all we would need to do is talk to an npc to get any item in the game. We would need to get a woc3 PA vendor in there though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exellence
I have had 4 accounts since NC1, so Ive already done my leveling. It makes absolutely no sense to force people to level new chars and obtain all those valuable items again, I mean, I had like 15 apartments full of super rare stuff. It's not fair for us to not have that stuff simply because there's a new server.
I'm with Excellence here, there's no way that this would even impact the economy on Titan. I wish you guys would understand that we shouldn't have to actually play the game again, because obviously we already played it once years ago.
Holy hell.. People for transfers? I like!
And I definitely support Exellence idea! Excellent idea :p
Hell, I would be happy with just implants and the safeslot, that way the "market" wouldnt be flooded with high-slot rares.
It is fair because of the "Prime Directive" ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Faid
New server - new economy - new playground - no intervention.
When a transfer impacts us than without item transfer, just avatar, skills and faction settings.
Enjoy the new environment instead of carebearing about your items on an old server full of duped crap ;)
i'm tempted to use this a my new sig. need to think about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoltan