Aww not getting any sexing from the wifey? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Morpheus
Ehm.. This is KK we are speaking of...Quote:
Originally Posted by Setlec
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Aww not getting any sexing from the wifey? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Morpheus
Ehm.. This is KK we are speaking of...Quote:
Originally Posted by Setlec
Yeh - She promised me a big patch! :angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Phil
@ Setlec
Testserver? Thats like safersex - No risk no fun :eek:
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Originally Posted by Setlec
Hmm, cannot find those. The closest I could see are these:
$ winetricks --help |grep sp1
usp10 MS usp10.dll (Uniscribe)
vc2005expresssp1 MS Visual C++ 2005 Express SP1 (does not work yet)
vc2005sp1 MS Visual C++ 2005 Service Pack 1 and ATL fix (install trial 1st)
vc2005hotfix MS Visual C++ 2005 hotfixes (install sp1 1st)
vcrun2005 MS Visual C++ 2005 sp1 libraries (mfc80,msvcp80,msvcr80)
fakeie6 Set registry to claim IE6sp1 is installed
and vc2008 does not exist in my winetricks (taken from the repos), but then again winetricks on Ubuntu 10.04 spits out a whole load of crap, so suspect something else..
Think I shall have a cup of tea and chew it over.Code:$ winetricks
fixme:ntdll:NtMakeTemporaryObject (0x40), stub.
fixme:ntoskrnl:ExInitializeResourceLite stub: 0x112090
fixme:ntoskrnl:MmQuerySystemSize stub
fixme:ntoskrnl:ExInitializeNPagedLookasideList stub: 0x54f3a0, (nil), (nil), 16, 44, 1936090177, 16
fixme:ntoskrnl:ExInitializeResourceLite stub: 0x54f360
fixme:ntoskrnl:ObfReferenceObject ((nil)): stub
fixme:ntoskrnl:IoRegisterFileSystem (0x1120d8): stub
fixme:ntoskrnl:FsRtlRegisterUncProvider (0x53e6e4 0x53e6d4 0): stub
fixme:ntoskrnl:IoUnregisterFileSystem (0x1120d8): stub
/home/ziii/.wine/dosdevices/c:/winetrickstmp/zenity.sh: 83: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
think u only need 2005, as thats what they linked to in the post
Wait, NC in Linux is broken again?
who knows, have to wait till after the patch, all we know is that we needed visual C++ 2005 runtime libraries, no idea why setlec said 2008Quote:
Originally Posted by MrTrip
Looks like vcrun2005 MS Visual C++ 2005 sp1 libraries is what you are after.
strange couldn't make the game run with vc2005... but it worked with 2008, haven't looked into things...
Hi guys! For those who remember me.. I miss you!
(back to the original topic of the thread)
Not sure I'm qualified anymore to speak on the future of NC and I apologize if I have the details wrong.. but I’ve be away a while.
With NC 2 there was excitement. We finally got DoY. Hacknet and Regents became a reality. For a bit life started coming back to the game. Everyone was excited to explore the new areas.
Then EVO 2.1 came out and there was a skill reset. Many things were changed, but at least we didn't have to lom to reskill our characters. After that there was *another* skill reset with even more changes... and that's kinda when I stopped playing. I skilled my tradeskiller and APU but didn't bother with anything else.
I know all of the changes were meant to be for the good of the game, but IMO some of them are what helped kill it. The game is no longer the same Neocrack that I became addicted to. When I log in I'm only reminded that nothing is the same. Most of the role players left for greener pastures. Everything became more of a red = dead mentality.
At this point I’m not sure that NC can be saved. But I think it may help if they returned to the basics the game was founded on.
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Originally Posted by Trillian
GOOD LORD
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING! butnobodylistenstomebcauseidon'thavepantsingamethatarenamedafterme *cough* and yes, I wore them on test server...
Do you see any of the players that WANTED these changes still playing? NO. THEY ALL LEFT.
HAH! I'd forgotten all about those! I almost killed the person who did it. I would love it if someone could come up with a screen shot of them for me...
I have that somewhere, and I have a screen shot of mavens dildo? o_OQuote:
Originally Posted by Trillian
I'll find it and post it up for you when I get home.
No-one listens to me too, doesn't mean either of us are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrTrip
I still strongly disagree that the changes made to NC over the years have been for the worse.
NC1 was new, shiny and different, but it was horribly unbalanced, many classes were flat out broken.
NC2 was better overall but wrecked individuality within each class (exec PEs anyone?).
The overall style of the game hasn't changed, implementation of changes and specific balance issues may have marred the experience, but not enough in my eyes to seriously detract from the experience.
Pro vs Anti only catalysed the growing red=dead sentimentality that was already there.
The community has always made NC, with time, even if KK had the resources to keep things fresh, they would slowly leave and this has a compound effect. People make NC what it is and they 'killed' it too.
Only thing that ever killed cron for me was the small population, granted DoY was the most underwhelming, and disappointing expansion or even 'new game area' in the history of MMO's. A small confusing maze. In the end though, after all the games i've played in 13 years of PC gaming, i'd play Cron over any.
IIRC there were supposed to be 4 expansion areas, I think one was in space too, and another in Tokyo. This was announced, or discussed way back in '01 or early '02, so my memory is a bit sketchy Just a little interesting FYI :P
Danae might remember more about it.
IMO the change that saw the biggest culling of people was the removal of the city safe zones in Neocron and the scattering of faction HQs.
A big chunk of people wanted to be able to socialize together without being forced to PVP all the time, & there was no real place where factions could gather safely & just tradeskill & talk shit. At least in the city you had some zones to run around and do things without being on your guard all the time.
People are different, & if you force them to play a kind of game that they don't want to play, then they're not going to hang around & keep paying subs.
Yep. DoY was a little disappointing for me too. Too maze-like and disjointed. It might have been better to have sections of the city work in a similar way as outposts; conquerable by clans, or maybe factions, that then give a useful bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strife
Also the new models that came with NC 2, were in a lot of peoples opinion, far inferior to the original ones.
Ah well, easy to say it with hindsight I guess.
I've been playing online games since 1998, and video games for at least 35 years, and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that the most fun I ever had was NC 1.
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Originally Posted by Conduit
Agreed. I loved NC1. I had so much fun there, and there was ALWAYS somebody trading, poking, csting, researching, repping, whatever you needed in P1. It was a big family and everything was FUN. There was ALWAYS action in game and never a dull moment.
Bring back NC1 fools. (I know, will never happen, go kick rocks Trip)
Agreed! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MrTrip
To me, it's less about the balance and statistical perfection, and more about the fun factor. It's a game after alll; one that needs a boost, in some form.
Bring back the fun that was NC1.
Blocky graphics, the ability to change my outfit colour to pimp-purple... the works.
nurse pokie, best poker in cron!
NC1 ftw indeed.
<sniff>
NC1 was the shit. Re-balance destroyed all
Part of what wrecked what neocron also was all the leveling exploits too. I mean, you don't have anyone to blame but yourself, but when the best and easiest way to lvl is exploit something so easy like AoE droning, it's hard to turn down 3x faster leveling. MB bunker used to be a cool place to hang out to lvl at, or even pk. Oz storage, pp sewers, etc. Farming the big cyclops in one of the outzones was good fun too.
That's true. The fact that lvling for some classes or LvLs isn't working just adds to this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strife
Nc is just broken in some areas, but KK always failed fixing them or broke other things. :mad:
isnt it possible to move the accs from the 4slot german server to terra and setup a NC1 classic server instead?
looool good idear there garff
however they did that they may as well close the other
servers all together as ppl would all play an the clasic NC1 server
loooool
lol, I don't think people would want to start all over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gau
plus, moving chars from mars to a new terra account means 2x payment when payment would start again.. (not that I have a mars char, but most people playing nc do)
Eh?! I'd rather play NC 2.2. Overall it is far better than NC1.
The reason NC1 was more enjoyable than the current NC is that the current population is far lower.
Reminisce: I remember some hellish roll-backs on NC1, and plenty of imbalance, but I did enjoy watching a PE firing a CS and a bright red tank PA and the item drop to the floor was far better than the drop to quick-belt. It made you think twice afore you fought.
I think NC2.2 is a far better game. The hansters are a different matter.
nostalgia will always overpower reason regretfully, especially as the current situation sucks because of the popQuote:
Originally Posted by zii
i do agree with that big
however i still say the monks of NC1 were better and more un than the new
versions
oh I'm sure there's tons and tons of stuff that was better in nc1, but there probably is just as much that was way suckier back thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Gau
lets face it and thats been said now million times, 2.2 err the balancing fucked nc up and the cheats/xploits killed it
well the com killed it.....