You misunderstand. You make it sound like we'd still be here if we had no players at all but that's not the case. Why do you, as a player, still play Neocron after all this time?Quote:
Originally Posted by CMaster
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You misunderstand. You make it sound like we'd still be here if we had no players at all but that's not the case. Why do you, as a player, still play Neocron after all this time?Quote:
Originally Posted by CMaster
Well, I don't really. I'm burned out and log in maybe a couple of times a month.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nidhogg
My inital point stands - as much of the question is "why is X thousand players not enough for TR, but a couple hundred enough for NC", seeing as the closure of TR apparently started this thread. One suspects there are few MMOs that couldn't have a few dedicated die-hards for a long time.
Beyond that, I've covered what makes the game interesting on both a general and a personal level.
Because I can pick it up, play for a week or few, then put it down and come back to it a few months later. Little will have changed in the intervening months. I can also obtain about 90% of the items in the game solo or with two logins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nidhogg
KK also appears to recognize the online population is tiny and leaves in certain features that make life easier for the rest.
I must use this opportunity again to say I much, much preferred NC1.
Even it's lack of balance, and shoddy graphics.
NC1 > NC2
- The immersive feeling of actually being your character (Due to the ability to customise looks, and LACK of PA)
- The feeling that you can play, and solo ANY class/build
- Options to use and gun vehicles with more than one class
- Pepper Park fights
- Cave runs at CRP
- Solo Firemobbing for rare parts
- Only tanks had PA (for the most part)
- Some Epic rewards were of value
- Fights could go either way
- Drugflash relog was possible (lol)
- The HUD was better
- The SL system was better
- Implants and armour was relatively straight forward to work out in your head, if you understood and tested it.
- No NSkill – Setups actually had to be thought about and often heavily tested
- No WoC
- Rare weapons were infact, rare – and were fun to build/have built
- APU’s weren’t pointless
- Hybrids existed
- Implants had sensible values (As opposed to now – where they seem more like Pi – 3.142)
NC2 > NC1
- Balanced?
- Textures
- A couple of nice new weapons – but still, I’d prefer it if they were not there…
So,
Neocron IS the best game I have ever played, and I'll never forget it. Neocron 2 was a let down for me - from day one. I still play now and again and it reminds me of what it once was.
I just hope a final 'fix-all and add fun' patch is released before the game dwindles into non-existence around the launch of BP.
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Originally Posted by L0KI
Ditto babe, loved NC1, being able to go get ur backpack FTW!!
Liked the community alot more then too, that made the game for me - the people not so much the content. (Am getting all teary eyed & nostalgic now, may just have to snuggle up in my NC hoody)
Maybe I didn't play NC1 long enough to decide that I like it over NC2. But to be quite honest, both NC1 and NC2 hold a charm for me. And when I get my laptop fixed I will get back to playing on my rigger. Until then; meh >.<
Why do I like it? Well to begin with, I do love the whole idea of the fps MMO. Only a few of these exist. Planetside (sort of), NeoCron, Entropia Universe and well that's it! Fallen Earth is also there but that is not available to the public so meh...
NeoCron also has a world that you can feel is pretty large, in that you may spend half an hour driving around if you want. Or can just go into a city/dungeon/certain area and do your thing. This also is helped by the fact that again, you have original combat, the crafting is not bad, and the community is also nifty (though I wish it would be larger). You also have the one original class/playstyle which NO other mmo has even ever approached how you have. DRONES!!!!!!!!!! Sure many use it to lamely get capped and then lom into something else, but by themselves they have to be the single most fun and innovative idea in a game. And it also helps me keep coming back again and again :>
Please don't let NC dwindle and die :(
I posted this on the 18th of January of 2008, given the
question it's perfectly applicable here:
"NC is not a linear shooter piece of trash like Tabula Rasa
with poke-e-mon style collect em' all objectives, it is a
vibrant post apocalyptic world filled with adventure,
excitement, and exploration.
It's a game that offers playability for both sides of the coin,
low attention gank fest types can enjoy NC and as far as
science fiction roleplay NC offers an unparalleled
atmosphere that is only rivaled by Anarchy Online in it's
depth and storyline.
I love how the character models emote based on typed
dialog, the first time I saw it I thought that the player
must be really fast on the keyboard to type and do emotes
at the same time.
When/if a character decides to remove their LE chip then
an entirely new world of, often nerve wracking, excitement
opens up.
The first time I watched an OP war I really enjoyed the
intensity of the fight, defenders, attackers people
screaming about sploits and plenty of smacktalk.
And the OPs actually do something, they give bonuses and
they sell consumables at lower than city prices.
Add in the fact that NC has great vehicles, well they were
better in the past but are still fun, my friends and I
laughed our butts off riding around in a gang on the new
quads, blue bikes are hella fun too but I do get sick of
them getting blown up constantly. (KK, make something
besides the Quad indestructible so people can have more
vehicle fun)
Neocron is unique, it's potential is vast if one chooses to
look at NC as a world rather than a place to try and be the
uber awesome killer dude with the best of everything, but
in that same vein one can be that person and still enjoy the
game if someone takes the time to teach them the ropes."
I'll always love the game and wish I had some friends that
wanted to play it still... :(
For me it's the Neocron team, How many games are there like Neocron ?, its pretty safe to say there isnt one, How many games are compared to being addictive as crack ? Never come across one. I think the team realises it and closing down Neocron isnt just the closing of a game, its the closing of a Genre.
I think the community plays a large part also, It's almost grown into a family, there are a lot of members on here that have been dedicated for years, I think it's these that keep the morale up for the team, giving them a kick up the bum every so often
:-)
Neocron is different from any other game and isn't trying to be another copy of a game. There are shit loads of space sims and fantasy worlds but very few (if any) cyberpunk FPS RPG.
It would suck if KK made like an EVE clone or something along those lines...oh wait.
cant really explain what draws people back time after time other than the simplicity of the game in the one sense (point and shoot and you will gain xp. no point click wait for something to happen. get confused log off) and simple fluid control system which provides a good basis for skilled (not so much these days but there used to be :) ) fights.
the chance of creating something special in a character or clan and having a lot of fun at it.
a brilliant combat system. ie it takes skill :)
did i say that already.
the world was fun. the game was big enough to hold everyone while not too big as it took ages to get around.
Not having locked GR's was probably the greatest part of this game. some of the changes like that killed a big piece of it for me.
being able to gen rep through a gr and spawn in to the middle of a raging op fight was a lot more fun than gen repping through a gr to get camped by some asshole (ok MB back in the day someone always did it lol) because your stuck for choices to go to and vehicles generally dont work or arent worth it.
the PVE as was wasnt the grind it is lately but wasnt too easy that it didnt require some thought of what you were doing and it was quite easy to cap your dudes but it was a welcome distraction when you cant pvp anymore or you havent got enough people on for a full on fight or someone else doesnt have enough people to give you a decent fight.
im getting round to that time yet again where its winter, its cold, im bored and thinking of picking it up to play neocron and threads like this make me remember how good things used to be. i really did love the game once. nothing is quite like it. its so unique in a lot of ways (fatals anyone :D) :lol:
the flame fests on trade channel were as much fun some times as the actual fights and i think in a lot of reasons the community has always been relatively small. it gave a rise to alot of grudges and alot of hatred at times from various warring factions on all sides and it has always been funny to see how political allies changed within the game context.
i think the main point of it all though was because there werent 20 million people everyone kinda knew everyone else and LOTS of people wanted to be top dog. there was a pecking order for a long time on uranus back in nc1 and it was always interesting to see it when the "famous" players turned up in p1 or at an op fight etc how people reacted. it was a buzz knowing you were "somebody" even if its just in a computer game.
your not just a face like in a lot of other games. you had a rep and you lived and died by it. this was especially the case on pluto where it was a 1 man server.
im sure alot of people will chime in to this and go "YEAH PLUTO RULEZ!" etc. and get all nostalgic but it was during those times that for me it was the most fun. the assholes werent as prominent and there were way more cool people playing than i have found since then.
phew. enough from me. sorry for the big post. i think i got it down right.
It's because neocron has you Snow <3 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SnowCrash
I agree with loki
And me. However, it's not something I've consciously thought about until you JUST mentioned it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
Yeah, the grind is too much for me now. I simply don't have the time to level my melee tank to cap any more. I only took him to about 60 STR... it's just so bloody slow, and dull now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
I will also be making a christmas comeback. So, I'll speak to you on vent soon :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
Hivemind vs Ginger anyone? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
Excellent point. Again, not something I have consciously thought about, but looking back, I was definitely quite high on that pecking order for quite some time. There really were a famous few - couldn't go anywhere without people spamming me via direct and in local.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
I semi agree here, and semi-disagree. I had characters on Pluto, Venus and Uranus. I mainly played on Uranus, but some of us didn't have several alts. I only ever played as Rabbi Fang - so regardless of the server I played on, I lived and died by that one character's reputation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
Oh, and Doc - I'll have to give you a shout at some point. Is your brother back for Christmas?
Neocron has magically survived all this time and i wonder how.
It even survived the falling of twilight war, which got back funding and is in closed beta now.
I shall see how it is and compare it to neocron, i bet NC will still be top !
I keep coming back because of the setting, I find interest in the things that might happen if modern civilization was near-wiped and had to start over.
Games like this, and Fallout appeal to me :)