NC:BDoY - Official Release Date

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14-04-04, 04:05
Celt

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Originally Posted by ]v[ortice

Seeing as your forum account does not relate to you as an 'individual' but as your 'online persona' only... you have no rights in this instance.

Actually,

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The High Court in the UK ruled in February 2001 that a contributor to an online discussion group could not hide behind an anonymous online identity when posting defamatory remarks to the group.

The investment advice services Motley Fool Ltd and interactive Investor Ltd operated web sites which contained discussion boards acting as forums for various companies including Totalise plc, an ISP.

A contributor using the online identity of Zeddust began posting defamatory comments about Totalise to the web sites. After complaints from Totalise, Motley Fool and Interactive Investor agreed to remove the offending material but refused to disclose the true identity of Zeddust. The action of the companies in promptly removing the defamatory material is understandable in the wake of the Godfrey v Demon case.

Totalise were unhappy with the refusal to disclose Zeddust's identity and complained to the High Court. The judge ruled that Zeddust�s true identity must be disclosed because the material was clearly defamatory and to allow Zeddust to remain anonymous would mean that people could post anonymous defamatory statements with impunity.

That case sets a precedent countering your post.
14-04-04, 04:08
gostly

yeap...im done with this game for sure now...

it's one thing to maybe announce something once and be a little late on it...but doy was set to release last year...and it's been said that it was done since december...and then it was said second quarter...now we're seeing q3-q4...well...i really cant stand this company anymore...delay after delay...it's gotten way too old by now... :mad:
14-04-04, 04:09
kurai

Well ... that was a marathon read ... posts piling up faster than I could finish one page and go to the next.

It certainly proves one thing ... NC is NeoCrack[tm].
News breaks that the new package will be late and the addicts start frothing at the mouth and hysterically riot around the place, verbally stabbing themselves (and selected others) in the face and burning down the ghetto :D

@Maloch: Thank you for the sanity breaks ... I was losing the will to live on some pages.

@Some Others: Calm the fuck down and try and get at least a vague grip on reality.

@Some Other Others: You *do* know you can simply (brace youreselves) NOT PLAY the current version till BDOY is released, right ?
I didn't see MJS say anywhere in this thread that you had to occupy every waking minute between now and 1st September playing (and paying for) NC or you wouldn't be allowed to buy BDOY.
Don't like NC any more ? Don't play NC any more.
It really isn't that hard to grasp, surely ? :confused:

Anyway - BDOY delayed ... that's a pity, I guess, but I'm not gonna top myself because of it.
14-04-04, 04:16
Weazle

Ok .... I'm gonna walk away and continue playing my Neocron.

In the meantime I'll read a book, play some other games, go out, play my drums, gig with my band, write songs, go see a movie, watch some television, try to get a girlfriend, get pissed on the night on the town etc (ie. living life)

In other words, 2 months delay isn't the end of the world, grow up and deal with it people. There's more to life than fretting over a release date of a computer game.

Heck I won't be able to see Hellboy until September while the rest of the world gets it on DVD by then. Now that's a long wait!! :(
14-04-04, 04:19
Shadow Dancer

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Originally Posted by Weazle

Heck I won't be able to see Hellboy until September while the rest of the world gets it on DVD by then. Now that's a long wait!! :(

Trust me you're not missing much.
14-04-04, 04:20
hegemonic

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Originally Posted by GT_Rince

What pisses me off, there is no apology, just another date. Where are the apologies - where are the reasons - we are paying customers for fucks sake!!!!!!!

Have to agree on this one... Would have been better without a release date.

I have been playing since Dec 2002, and have seen TOO MANY missed deadlines on KK's part. It is outright unprofessional. These "Sneak Peeks at BDOY" make me ask, 'Why bother?'. Why show us something that might never come to fruition? If KK were a publicly traded company, they'd be out of business by now. HOWEVER, I am a lamb and I WILL wait YET AGAIN for BDOY to be released. I can't promise that I won't be lured away by WoW, and might not return to NC if WoW is better and/or comes out before BDOY.

I reiterate; "Where are the apologies?" "Where are the reasons?"
*edit by hegemonic[QUOTE=Martin J. Schwiezer]Anyway, the release of NC:BDoY has been pushed from Q2 to Q3 because it will take us a little longer to finish the product. [QUOTE]
Ok.. So one question answered...
It is only right that we (as monthly subscribed customers) be given answers to BOTH questions.

Awaiting KK's response...
14-04-04, 04:25
VirtualReGen

WHAT> ROFL?>

hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahha :o :o :o :o
im so high ^_____^ *g**g**g*
14-04-04, 04:27
kurai

@Celt: Regarding the DPA nonsense argument ...
If you can't instantly see why the cases you quote as precedents have no bearing on the issue at hand, then by all means feel free to waste your money on a solictor.
Maybe he can point it out to you ... possibly in crayon.

Additionally - you'll feel even sillier when he does some basic research and finds that this server is located in Houston, TX.

Jurisdiction would be a good word to know. ;)
14-04-04, 04:29
Kenjuten

mou..

But kurai, aren't there similar laws in the USA?

And since I'm completely ignorant on this new issue you and Celt are talking about...mind elaborating on why his attempts won't work?
14-04-04, 04:32
Celt

To the people saying: calm down/get a grip/get a life/blah blah blah

We play neocron for fun/escape.

We look forward and anticipate PROMISED content.

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Do you expect us to say "oh well, it's 2 extra months for extra goodness"?

I've been paying to beta test the game, all the while waiting for DoY which is always 4 or 5 months away(We promise!) to fix the problems.

You think we should be calm and happy?

YOU are the ones who need to get a grip.

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The internet is real(TM!) too.
Sure it's easy to say "it's only TEH INTERWEB!", however some of us, due to work or otherwise spend a lot of time on the internet.

Going to the movies isnt real, if you go see a movie, sit down and see a big splash screen saying "DELAYED UNTIL 01/09/2004, AND WE ARENT SORRY" are you going to laugh and say, it's only two months, and isnt real anyway?

The other charecters you meet on the internet are REAL, so once and for all, stfu with the "get a life" crap, why dont you get a life off the internet and stop bothering those who enjoy it?
14-04-04, 04:34
bounty

I have an idea!

Martin, you have a very very loyal and solid community and you have people on this board and in this game that have supported and stood by this game through thick and thin. Why not let this small community of some several thousand people all take part in the closed beta? We will then be "paying beta testers" for the release of BDOY to the world! I think this exclusitivity would smother some of the flames and at the same time this would be a good way to show your appreciation to the community that has stood by your product.

I was initially very upset, but If BDOY delivers all of the features you say it will and especially with the engine and netcode upgrades, i can't argue with a sept 1 deadline.

The community needs to step back and take a look and realize that they want this a very finished product for its release date and not go through another CDV release where it was half assed(pardon the french). I have 2 active accounts and they will be remaining active. You have my money till sept 1 cause i still love playing the game.
14-04-04, 04:34
Xtro

I Did tell everyone that it wouldn't come out till after september and i do think martin will put it back yet again dates don't mean a thing. remember guys nearly every promise that has ever been made has been broken.MARTIN
YOU SHOULD GO INTO POLITICS YOU WOULD FIT RIGHT IN . :( :( :( :(
14-04-04, 04:38
Celt

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Originally Posted by kurai

@Celt: Regarding the DPA nonsense argument ...
If you can't instantly see why the cases you quote as precedents have no bearing on the issue at hand, then by all means feel free to waste your money on a solictor.
Maybe he can point it out to you ... possibly in crayon.

Ok.

Court rules: an internet persona can be/is treated as if it is a traditional "identity".

On the flip side, this means gathering and making a DB of information about an internet persona, without their consent, can be treated as if it was your phone company recording parts of your messages, without your consent, and allowing their employees to view them.

Quote:

Additionally - you'll feel even sillier when he does some basic research and finds that this server is located in Houston, TX.

Jurisdiction would be a good word to know. ;)

It doesnt matter, the forums were paid for, were they paid for by a US registered company?

Is the hosting paid for by the same US company?

If you actually had a clue, you would know: It doesnt matter where the host is, it's where the person who created it, and who maintains it is.

If I created a child porn site, hosted it in russia, but put my real name, address and contact details on every page, saying it was by me.

Guess what? Just because it's hosted in russia, it doesnt mean jack shit.

All they have to show is that it was me, in ireland who created or maintained it.

In this case, it is all by ReaKKtor AG, even if one of their employees is in Canada.

I am not a lawyer, nor have I studied law, but I do make a point of keeping up with european internet law, after being "burned" by a scam english game sales site.

Off to bed, dont expect a response until tomorrow morning, if the thread is still open.
14-04-04, 05:01
Clyde

glad to see a date set in stone but I dont really agree with the closed beta idea. Its just gonna be a repeat of beta 5, where retail started and you had all these "leet" peepz havin a edge over others. I understand it must be tested by numerous people for hardware issues and what not, but I think either GMs and/or Faction consellors should be the only ones to test it.

On a side note, I notice people always bitchin about the ingame support. But I dont understand where they have all these problems to where they have to constantly contact gm's. Since I started, I only had to contant a gm 2 times and both was back in beta.
14-04-04, 05:02
funkeymonkey

How long have we been waiting for now? I was expecting a release within 2 months. 1st sept is just way too late, there will be far better games out by then.

When september comes around whats to stop kk from holding it back again while they continue to sponge off the hangers on that are waiting for doy and when neocron is no longer profitable could'nt they just close down and save themselves the expense of releasing it?

Also whats happening with the new publisher, what sort of game publisher doesnt have a web site? Has anybody heard of this company before?

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