Oh....lol, whoops. :D;
At any rate..hm..
If the FRE problem isn't in the callstacks.....odd. Where would they be then?
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Oh....lol, whoops. :D;
At any rate..hm..
If the FRE problem isn't in the callstacks.....odd. Where would they be then?
The page that lists their email addresses is here: http://www.neocron.com/index.php?nam...ndex&pageID=31Quote:
Originally Posted by tkNukem
Towards the bottom of the page they have all the apropriate addresses, as to exactly which one crash logs should be sent, I have no idea. helpdesk@neocron.com seems to be their main support address. I believe they would tell you the correct email address if you tried sending to them. Or as Celt said, they might tell you to stop sending them logs : ) Maybe try bugreport@neocron.com or tech@neocron.com then, either sounds like it might be worthwhile.
Switching topic to the bdoy new features/content:
When I read over the list of bdoy features, I was really excited. There was item after item that would make the game much more fun to play. Even simple things like advanced character modification. Changing facial hair! As I read the list though, I began to realize something. Most of these features are things promised/talked about from a long time ago. They were mostly things Neocron was supposed to have. Other's were common sense features that Neocron should have had. For the most part I felt like I was reading "BDOY: What Neocron should have been"
So while I am excited about BDOY, I am also rather sad that I've wasted so much time/money on an unfinished game only to wait even longer to finnaly get what I originaly payed for. It's kind of bitter sweet, if you know what I mean. I'm glad we're getting these features... but we should have already had most of them. For example, if they removed parashock right now, the community would rejoice. We'd be happy that pvp will hopefuly be more fun, but think about how many we've already lost because it's taken so long to have para removed. If it had been done sooner, maybe the game wouldn't have gone so far down hill. Instead of feeling like we're on a sinking ship hoping we make it to the BDOY rescueboat, we'd be having fun playing neocron. Para of course isn't so important that the entire game balance hangs on it, I'm just using it as an example. If many of the features of BDOY had gone in already, the game as it is would be a lot more enjoyable. We wouldn't have a problem waiting for BDOY.
I can most definitly wait 4 months for new content. I have a lot harder time justifying 4 months to wait for the game to become fun again.
Wow, and to think I read through ALL of this before posting.
All I have to say is.... figures it was pushed back again... lets hope it doesnt happen again.
My account is going to be cancelled before the next payment is made.
Not because of this push back, but because due to real life issues, I can no longer put money into this game.
Will I play again at the expansion release? maybe.
My account by then will of course be deleted and ill have to start off freash.
Lets hope the game is still alive then.
Although I am no longer a paying custumer and soon to have my account cancelled, including my forum account. I still would VERY much like to help test Beyond the Dome of York as I WANT to see this game succed and do whatever I can to help do that.
I havent been able to do anything with the test server because each time I have tried to go on the test server the lom pills are broken and theres no way I was going to level up characters AGAIN.
Too bad, I REALLY want to see this game succed, I want to help polish the expansion.
But I dont think I can now.
Damn real life :(
At any rate, thats all I have to say.
I am very disapointed with the push back of the release again.
@ Carinth: Niddhog said it's bugreport@neocron.com
The problem is it appears they don't want callstacks if it pertains to a FRE problem.
@ Zan: Eh. You'll be back one day, or so I hope. :cool:
The files in question for bug reporting would be Error#.log I currently have Error.log through Error4.log in my nc directory. Each is a report of what errors were reported during a given session of NC. They're overwritten when you've had more then 5 crashes. Shadow Dancer and I looked over our logs and noticed that both of us show the majority of our errors are missing sound files. I'm sure those would be very helpful for kk. If they want other logs, they would most likely ask for those too. The callstack.log files in my nc directory appear to be empty. So I have no idea what they're used for. Try opening up your Error.log files though, they make for some interestin reading.
Mine are easily 3/4 sound errors, a few graphic errors, and some script failures.
Hm...
I'd check myself, but since I started FREing since I've been using NLPro, I guess that marks me. :D
((Yes, NLPro does enough alterations to the game if you allow it...))
10T probably doesn't even have a reputation, seeing that nobody as heard of them, so they probably wont care if they get too much flamage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin J. Schwiezer
I just reactivated my account a week ago, and already and thinking about canceling.
People getting off school for the summer expected DoY to be out, so they could play it over the summer, you know they'll find a different game to play instead of waiting for DoY, I sure as hell would.
2 things. 1) I'm FAR from surprised that they missed Q2 2004. this is KK. I wouldn't be at all surprised if september 1 became Christmas 2004 that later became Q2 2005.
2) disturbs me far more however;
Is this information available upon request? If not, it really needs to be. I don't recall giving my express permission to have such information to be studied or have public information (the original post) be made private (deleted and stored away from my own eyes).Quote:
Originally Posted by Odin
Those that get into the closed beta can enjoy it for their summer indeedly. :angel:
10tacel...you should research them. I know I would. (I'm just lazy atm. :D)
@ Mattimeo: If they don't have sufficient proof of past delinquencies they can't ban you, now can they? :p
Over here it's called the "Data Protection Act" :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattimeo
In england too.
http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/a...8/19980029.htm
For a better synopsis with regard to the internet:
http://www.internetrights.org.uk/factsheets_data.shtml
Martin, you must understand that people get annoyed because they care about the game. While it doesn’t excuse some of the rude comments, there is a valid foundation for the community’s frustration. It is obvious that you are reluctant to post on the forums because of the often violent backlash but that has to change, You need to remain committed to talking to us and let the mods weed out the few people who cannot control their emotions.
Neocron is a great game. We all put up with the constant crashes, lack of high-end content, and numerous other problems because we like the game that much. Many of us are moving on to other games not because we wish to but because the game is getting stale.
The delay is unfortunate but these things happen. I realize that KK’s limited resources are dedicated to meeting the new deadline but you cannot neglect us entirely for the next 5 months. There are so many things that need improving and are not particularly difficult.
The initial release of Neocron was not properly handled. I am sure you know that and that is why you are using a new publisher this time.
DoY was initially going to be a free expansion released only a few months after the retail launch. I suspect that the DoY was content that KK wanted to be in the initial release but simply was unable to complete in time. That is why it was going to be free.
I think you should consider the September 1 date not as an expansion pack release but as a re-release of the entire game. All of the BDoY logos I have seen emphasize the DoY name and not the Neocron name. The DoY is only one of the 2 opposing empires in the game and if you view the expansion as a re-release of the game then you need to tone down the emphasis on DoY.
If Neocron is going to be successful over the long run, it will be from attracting many new players and not from selling the expansion to the current customer base. Therefore, I suggest you do not charge us for the expansion. Furthermore, begin releasing the BDoY content to us over the next 5 months in regular patches. Let the entire community help you iron out the bugs before the official re-release date. Let’s consider these first 2 years as beta 5 and let’s work together to make sure the game is ready for the tens of thousands of new customers this fall.
Additionally, make sure there is a GM online at all times on all servers. The level of in-game support at the moment borders on nonexistent. Good customer support is an excellent way to let your customers know you appreciate their loyal patronage.
Finally, do not delete people’s characters after 90 days. Let the people who are bored take a break and come back to their accounts. I know people that have left other MMOs for over a year and came back to the game to find everything as they had left it. It only benefits you as people are more likely to come back if their characters are preserved.
Ray
Something orange appeared above..
am I going insane ? or did people just lose faith in traditional colours ?
OK so i deal in DPA every day its my job... being a person who deals with that shit.
Seeing as your forum account does not relate to you as an 'individual' but as your 'online persona' only... you have no rights in this instance.
If information is held against your name and personal information (IE Address and shit) then there is a problem.
Before anyone points out that your account information is required to set up a forum account (and therefore your personal details), I already know this. But so long as KK holds that information separate then there is no legal quarrel.
No barrister in my country would even dream of taking this any further than the waste paper basket so please don't argue the toss.
They're more than welcome to keep the proof. however, I want to be able to review it on my own. Personally I would prefer is things that got edited in such manners weren't but instead the post was left to stand and the warning give while the post stays intact. but, of course, is entirely up to the forum owners. What they CAN'T do is take my publicly released material and steal it for themselves, which is what keeping it in record without my abilty to request it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenjuten
and yeah Celt thats similar to the US law I'm backing myself up here with ;)
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They keep logs of IPs, along with that IP is my identity. if I can prove the material is my own, they have no legal right to keep it from me. By logging it they shoot themselves in the foot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ]v[ortice
I find the dark orange from the original forum design easier to read. That's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by naimex