rename holy lightning to holy nuke from space and adjust damage accordingly, maybe apu's wont think there underpowered if they can instakill a whole zone at once.
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rename holy lightning to holy nuke from space and adjust damage accordingly, maybe apu's wont think there underpowered if they can instakill a whole zone at once.
ok, now i get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Genji
Yea i would love for them to just port NC, but they wont, as Kirk said, it will be a "new NC3, a real NC3".
Afraid so. =/Quote:
Originally Posted by Torg
i'm not perfectly sure, if i agree here. so the spy has more defense, compared to the apu? and the dissy and ak still do more damage, even without tech/woc-bonus?Quote:
Originally Posted by flib
Definitely with the AK and dissy, but even with other rares, they still put out more damage than APU's and they have even weaker resists.
There are a few people who can pull off the APU as it is now, but they just happen to be gifted APU players, and it shouldn't be restricted so only a couple people can use them well.
Ok sorry i meant port to new engine. Not simple reskin. Mix up of terms on my part.
Porting the present content would make the result look just about the same, except maybe with better lighting. Functionally, it would certainly be an improvement, but porting 10 year old graphical content would not sell well.
Can you tell that I don't know anything about how these things work.
I just want to see nc with the type of graphical detail they have in BP (but with better backgrounds because BP lacks in the department).
.....people don't play neocron for the cool graphics, and I doubt most if any would care if it looked as it does now as long as it was stable.
lol flib, no need for symantics.
Port/ rewrite, same shit basically, of coarse you wouldnt want the same old graphics with a new engine.
naw. they would care genji. it doesnt have to be state of the art but its gotta be better than the current state for a lot of people im sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Genji
a/the new engine would give them a fresh start because from all i read about the current nc engine its a mess in terms of code etc. CoDi said it here on the forum a long time ago and after him John Doe im pretty sure. someone else mentioned it too once. might have been the N actually or Callash. i dont remember right but it needs a fresh start.
What William means is the IP of Neocron. The concept of it. The whole Nc atmosphere we love. not a direct port cause that would suck. it needs new life breathed in.
as i type this i had a brain wave. Total new city(ies). the hold over could be the factions. keep them the same. maybe adjust some of the rares (looks and ability) and redo a huge portion of it.
Then for us who steadfastly refuse to let go of the dream drop a Neofrag in to the city that works. Get rid of the shitty decks no one uses and put pepper park 1-3 in there. Put the oz subway (:P) and the outzones in there.
Hell put plaza 2 in there because people love fighting there so much. add these as decks. you have somethin from the old school and somethin from the new school.
a later expansion can be Neocron city. revisited.
Those are two completely different things.Quote:
Originally Posted by yavimaya
For the game to ever actually become successful (like nc1? O_o) the graphics need to be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Genji
Agreed. For an MMO, Neocron actually had pretty damn good graphics when it came out. If it wasn't at the top of the MMO heap graphically when it came out, it was certainly close.Quote:
Originally Posted by flib
Neocron 2... not so much. Nearly everything they came out with at launch was recycled from Neocron, and the new content wasn't any more advanced than what had launched 2 years prior. By that time we had screenshots of Everquest 2 (which, while it's an ugly game from an artistic perspective, is certainly more advanced technically than NC2) to show just how far MMO graphics had come.
I think this is something that KK has come to understand now, as Black Prophecy is a beautiful looking game. I don't believe they would remake Neocron just to give it the short end of the stick like that.
I didn't mean new players, I ment current and old players (half of which cry they would rather have old outdated nc1 graphics). Myself included, I don't care about nc1 graphics but I wouldn't care if the graphics got any better aslong as it was stable and there were people that needed killing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
As for a flow new players in an nc3 ofc I would agree with flib.
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Originally Posted by flib