Community Project: Neocron DeathMatch modification in Source engine

at this point all the props were made by me, the only thing you're missing is the silent hunter which I made a while back, but that isn't really a prop.

as for the idle.smd, idle.smd is a file without animation bones, as listed in one of the tutorials I used, but if listing the same file there again works I don't see why not

please do not upload the newly compiled mdl files though, as they are not compiled in the same mod settings and might not work properly.

as for the map, looking good, good to see the pink stuff gone ;) and I can't help but noticing another player, did you play on it yet? :D

btw, for the ad frames you could probably use a small transparant brush with one of the decals whitestuff made, although I don't know anything about hammer, so if you want me to make 1 polygon transparent ads to put in the frames, lemme know

and for the playtest, I'll set up a steam group so we can contact each other on there, I think I got a 2 mbit up connection, unless someone owns a hl2:dm server I could host one on my laptop (ping wont be great but playable).

group set up: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ncsource/ or search for neocron:source

Yup I had done up a few smaller play tests to make sure I had packaged up the map properly.

The props really make the map say 'Neocron' so congrats :).

Some comments on the models:

I didn't put anything in the adframes at this point because the only appropriate svn committed image was a medicare cross- Once more media is done I will put them in. (Empty seemed better then all the same).

The svn citycom texture doesn't work or is out of date.

I have a decent machine with a T1 to host a semi persistent dedicated server. I wanted to make a few more tweaks and do a repackaging of the map and then I will post the IP. (Also a link to dl the map, I will commit the source to the svn today).

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rambus

Yup I had done up a few smaller play tests to make sure I had packaged up the map properly.

The props really make the map say 'Neocron' so congrats :).

Some comments on the models:

I didn't put anything in the adframes at this point because the only appropriate svn committed image was a medicare cross- Once more media is done I will put them in. (Empty seemed better then all the same).

The svn citycom texture doesn't work or is out of date.

I have a decent machine with a T1 to host a semi persistent dedicated server. I wanted to make a few more tweaks and do a repackaging of the map and then I will post the IP. (Also a link to dl the map, I will commit the source to the svn today).

---

the texture I made for it was updated by whitestuff, I can put mine up as a temporary placeholder sometime, but it was just shaded, not completed, would be better to talk to whitestuff about that particular one (or it could be if you use a revision that was my old one?).

and thanks for the compliment, although the iconic shapes of the models is mostly just imitating and reinterpreting neocron's shapes

seeing as I'm currently in the process of writing and rewriting a paper, I will not have time to spend on this mod for another month or so, even though I would prefer to spend more time on this (I really wanna finish my PE pa, and get started on a pepper park animated stripper :D)

old version in the odds and ends folder

Cool I'll take a look at it,

My subway map can survive with out it if need be though :)

I know the feeling of having too much to do- I needed a distraction so I started playing with this again and now I'm behind lol.

Tried to commit the new textures to the SVN and it fails saying that my files are in conflict with the SVN. Sigh... Version control sucks. Can someone help me out with this? I just want to upload the changed files, etc.

That error happens if someone else (or you from another machine) puts up a new version of the file, and you edited the file from an older version.

Easiest thing for you.. copy your files elsewhere, update to the head revision
and then put your files back in (updating those existing ones). Commit.

EDIT: The idea is to prevent you from overwriting someone else's work, but I will assume you know your not doing that.

I always work in a copy of the downloaded svn tree, so the folder which i use to upload to svn remains the svn version, and when I want to upload i just replace it with my own version

This has really come a long way in a relatively short time!

Props to everyone involved and I'll join you guys in the fragfest for sure. ;)

Since I couldn't get the SVN to work, I worked a little on Plaza 1 las night. I think it is shaping up very well. When I finish Garriott's on top of Medicare, I'll post some screenies. I also looked @ some of the textures I was going to upload, and some of the alpha channels need work, so it's good they didn't get uploaded. And I have all of the appropriate colors of the ads for different sectors of the city, so I'll get them all added as well. I'm going to take the separate file approach, and see if that doesnt work out better for the SVN.

Hope to post some screens soon.

and yet again, I'm horrified by the hand rails in use on all our maps, not so much that you made them that way, but we should be able to do a lot better than a rectangle, I'll look into it when we get time (modern games are more prop than brush oriented anyway)

Yeah, in Hammer you *can* make more than retangles, but it is strange... You can use subdivision surfaces, but they are hard to make bend and angle correctly. You could also use cylinders, but to make it halfway smooth, you need 12+ slices and on something as small as a handrail, it's almost a waste. I'd like to see what you come up with and I'll also see what I can do to smooth some stuff out. Some of the handrails I designed I would like to keep rectangular, and some I would like to be rounded.

I might round the ends, but I looked at using higher quality railiing and it justs didn't 'feel' like neocron.

It was a minor aesthetic choice for me, perhaps I will revisit it.

*Edit:
I don't think we need mesh based hand railings. I'll look at adding a bevel and rounded ends when I visit my map and will post comparison screenshots.

Edit:Edit:

The biggest booster to the ambiance would be the inclusion of authentic neocron sounds. Since we don't have an audio engineer I say we try to track down purchased assets (like the faction HQ music) and get our own licenses for the project. Thoughts?

Couldn't we make people copy the mp3's to the mod before it runs? that way only people that have already paid for the music in neocron can use them, those that don't have the license can get some generic music? as long as we don't distribute them, just make a helper script that allows people to add the original music only if they already have them?

http://www.alysteel.com.au/images/la...noHandrail.jpg

it's not so much the shape of the handrail itself, but mostly the bends, connections and brackets