Nc3!!!!

If they gave me my purple suit back I'd play more.

Tankocron was when the game was at its most balanced in my honest opinion. Tanks are meant to be bred for combat so it makes sense that they would be the best class for combat.

I wouldn't be averse to having a class which was more "pvp friendly" to let newer players get to grips with the aiming and general pvp of the game, provided that the game mechanics were altered to allow for some form of recompense to the other 3 classes.

I mean tanks you cant really go wrong with in the current class system, ok they cant tradeskill but theyre not difficult to set up even for the greenest player.

I would just like to see some form of clear definition within the framework of the game as to what can beat what at pvp. Even if that meant ditching some classes to go for a rock paper scissors type of affair in terms of class balance.

This would be a better start than having the current mish mash of everyone drugging to do everything.

I would strip the game back to its basics (possibly even the removal of PPU's and drugs to start with) and then try to gain balance from there. When you start adding a PPU to the mix and his buffs and then the drugs you can take on top of that it begins to create statistical nightmares for the devs to try to retain that balance.

Don't get me wrong I am not advocating removing drugs and PPU's from the game (theyre my 2 favourite things in nc) but for the short term they should be removed from the equation in order to clearly achieve said objective.


Also I want A LOT of non-combat customisation. Like seriously they should devote a whole team to it. Hell I'd volunteer to be a part of the team if they would let people outside KK contribute ideas and stuff to this end of the game and then have some artists draw and plan the stuff we came up with.

These are the things that made nc great and these are the things that brought us all back after rage quitting the nth time we got beaten at cycrow....

I love this game and everything in it, old friends, old enemies and even new friends we have yet to meet and shoot at. I just don't want to see it fall on its arse before it has even started.

A couple of thousand players in game terms would be amazing. I don't know the financial breakdown or the economics of running a games company but I would guess its not a bad start. Even if they put advertising in game (i think nobbys thread suggested it a while back) then id be happy with that if it brought more money in and more people.

agreed on the customization, every single game let's u customize more than nc. and i mean, it's not like it's difficult to implement, it was in the game before it was yanked out...

I wanna see modular combat armor, like in Mass Effect 2, where you can buy individual components, so you can mix and match to your liking. Also, power armors could give very specific, unique, and useful bonuses to make up for the lack of modularity (better than the shitty bonus armors from ME2), thus allowing a great amount of customization, both visually and functionally. :)

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I wanna see modular combat armor, like in Mass Effect 2, where you can buy individual components, so you can mix and match to your liking. Also, power armors could give very specific, unique, and useful bonuses to make up for the lack of modularity (better than the shitty bonus armors from ME2), thus allowing a great amount of customization, both visually and functionally. :)

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I totally agree with this. I haven't actually played Mass Effect or ME2, but iot sounds like the Earthrise combat system, which I am a BIG fan of.

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Originally Posted by William Antrim

Tankocron was when the game was at its most balanced in my honest opinion. Tanks are meant to be bred for combat so it makes sense that they would be the best class for combat.

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so if you want to pvp, roll a tank? disagree. sounds like less options to explore and less fun in general.

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Don't get me wrong I am not advocating removing drugs and PPU's from the game (theyre my 2 favourite things in nc) but for the short term they should be removed from the equation in order to clearly achieve said objective.

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a valid point: ppus and drugs are un-balancing the game and there should be countermeasures to that. like, maybe the ppu gets slowed down (at runspeed) by handing out psi effects (heal, shield) or drugged players are more vulnerable to poison attacks. or whatever.

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Also I want A LOT of non-combat customisation.

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yes, but. this can only happen in an NC3, not anywhere near the current NC2-database, which, to my humble understanding, is already borked and spagettied out to a point beyond repair. i believe theres not much you could to with the current NC code beyond what we are having now, give or take a few fixes.

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so if you want to pvp, roll a tank? disagree. sounds like less options to explore and less fun in general.

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In the Tank-O-Cron of old, tanks were slightly more powerful than any other class, yes. With PPU buffs, they were a bit of a nightmare, admittedly. However... A good PE (which I was back then, probably not any more) could easily take one down, with or without PPU buffs.

I think devourers took them over the edge for me. When they were introduced, even a relatively un-skilled tank could destroy any PE with a posion modded dev.

I honestly don't think they were any more powerful back then than they are now though. Unless all of you tank players got a shit load better...

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In the Tank-O-Cron of old, tanks were slightly more powerful than any other class, yes. With PPU buffs, they were a bit of a nightmare, admittedly. However... A good PE (which I was back then, probably not any more) could easily take one down, with or without PPU buffs.

I think devourers took them over the edge for me. When they were introduced, even a relatively un-skilled tank could destroy any PE with a posion modded dev.

I honestly don't think they were any more powerful back then than they are now though. Unless all of you tank players got a shit load better...

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the good ones i remember very well. the good tanks who you recognisded straight away without seeing a name were the ones u ran from. the smurfs. aah those were fun times.


correct though the bad ones were just bad. i used to LOVE fighting bad tanks with little force resist because they blew it all on str for hc. here let me show you what my little pe can do to your lovely tank. hurts doesnt it ? :) piew piew.

No Torg, what i meant was if you're new to pvp and want to maybe get into it roll a tank as you will find it easier to be successful.

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No Torg, what i meant was if you're new to pvp and want to maybe get into it roll a tank as you will find it easier to be successful.

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agree.

I can actually still remember the first day in DOY! oh how i hated it.

NC1 was not perfect, but it was far better overall than NC2...... NC2 was supposed to take it forward but in my opinion they divided it up the world to much and DOY was way to big.

My memory is fading at a fast rate because its been a light year since i played, but i do come back to read the forums every few months, who knows i may even re-isntall and log back in to see where my chars are!

If NC3 comes along, i will for sure come back to beta at least and see whats up.

i sure do miss the atmosphere in NC1 ... (

P.S just noticed my join date november 2002... yikesss almost 10 years ago,,,, pahhhh lol

I logged on RF a couple of months ago... it was dead, no one on I knew from back in the days. If they actually come up with something new, I'll join the fun though ;)

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My memory is fading at a fast rate because its been a light year since i played, but i do come back to read the forums every few months, who knows i may even re-isntall and log back in to see where my chars are!

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Light year is a unit of distance, not time. >-<

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Light year is a unit of distance, not time. >-<

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Truer words have never been spoken!

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Light year is a unit of distance, not time. >-<

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hahahahaha dam, i was half asleep!

maybe i need some more Neocrack :)

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