Transfer - To Be or Not to Be

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05-10-12, 02:36
\\F�nyx//

wouldnt mind transferring over my tanks belt of zarg, just for nostalgia reasons, other then that, i personally wouldnt want to see a character transfer *unless* characters come over with zero items and have their skill experience moved down to the /60 amount (ie no WOC, just be grateful you've had your character back if it means that much...)
05-10-12, 05:05
flib

The way I see it, we're going to need a transfer, unless everyone wants to play an AK spy.
As it is, no one has rares, because rare parts are fucking rare, as they should be, but the AK is NOT rare, and is incredibly easy to obtain. As is WoC because of all the exploiting Droners.

Until everyone gets sorted out with rares, it's just going to be AK spies ruling the server.
It's a real fucking shame, because I was really looking forward to seeing how PVP would play out with only non-rare weapons. I believe that the balance would have been a lot different.
PE's would have been viable, because they can use all the non-rares that Spies can without having to get a shitload of dex.
APU's would be viable, because Holy Toxic Halo is actually pretty good.
Heavy/Melee PE's might have even stood a chance.
You'd just have to watch out when you see a swirly, because here comes a badass!

Honestly, the only realistic thing I can see to remedy this situation is an emergency nerf of the AK and Beretta.

Also, please give me my TL92 Tangent Assault Pulselaser Pistol. :D
05-10-12, 05:13
Doc Holliday

first of all to the thread starter why are you copying and pasting pieces from one post in to another? i dont get it the point of that unless it was accidental?

On the subject of char transfers i think we have all discussed it a million times. i made my thoughts clear. naked xfer over. No qb no items no nothing. levels intact. no need for reset of skills. let the char get lommed if they want to reset.

Chuck your saying all these gm spawned stuffs gonna get duped but more accounts are getting banned for doing naughty things anyway and the team are more on top of it than any times i can recall.

Finally. @ mokoi. If its gonna cost you guys money then maybe you should bring to the table some kind of discussion about how the people who want this xfer are gonna cover the cost of it for you. I think thats not unfair to ask. Do it on a per account basis or even on a per char basis. People talk about F2P and cash shop and micropayments and so much other crap but i think in this situation that would actually work. I think a community poll should be taken also to gauge what people really think.

I am lucky at the moment as i have a lot of free time and not a lot of work on so im in a position to put more hours in to the game than most and i would STILL pay for the transfer of a char or two. just saying. it would be my ppu. because i dont want to level another ;) (and no his int is not capped)

Final Edit: I think if any person can claim a god given right to get a char transferred over to titan from terra, and i think the community will be unanimous in its support of this then i think you should xfer Logan Ford. And his store. I dont know anyone that really put so much effort in to that as he did and it was a shame after some 6 years of trading the store was closed with terras demise.

BRING BACK LOGAN! BRING BACK LOGAN! BRING BACK LOGAN! (Disclaimer: all the picket signs being waved by the crowd were not made by logan ford himself ;) )

I will collect my cheque from the usual place ;)
05-10-12, 05:36
Sywyn

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Originally Posted by Sechs

Whenever I check the neocron forums, there is yet another thread about how we need this retarded transfer system. Sersiously, we don't. People are just fucking lazy and that's all there is to it.
I mean, let's be honest for a second, 99% of the active pvp community leveled their chars in safe or semi safespots, be it regant, ceres or one of the hq's.
Why wouldn't they, since nobody gave a shit.

Yes, the ways the game provides to level your character are kinda broken and plain demotivating, but this is an issue that has to be addressed by a (well thought-trough) patch.

Also, I really don't want to sound rude but if you're really bitching about having to invest actual time in an RPG, I highly suggest the cod franchise or even counter strike instead.
You'll find lots of 14 year olds who are just as annoying and impatient, bitching about everything that doesn't work in their favor.

About that RL argument;
If you have a RL, that's perfectly fine, millions of WOW players do.
Yet, for some reason, they still reach endgame.
They still find the time to level a second or even third character.
It takes a little longer, but so what?
Same goes for EvE Online, SWTOR, you name it.
It is pretty much to be expected that your progress is proportional to the time you put into the game.

etc etc etc

We are talking to you about players who lost their entire account after 5 to 10 years of play.
You can't ask them to abandon everything and to treat them as slackers!
They have been present (for the most part) since the beginning, and have continued to pay their subscription until the recent free offer of Neocron.

This group of players is not more than 14 years old, as you can attest. I don't like your manner of criticizing gratuitously and without basis.

For me Neocron is the op's, the battles, my guild, especially the war economy, not of the cyclops at MB. We are speaking of Neocron, of a different gameplay, of a game which is out of the ordinary, you come to serve us your soup like swtor, eve online etc. We don't want that, we want to participate in the new war economy by taking ops, pvp and thus find other players again without having to start again and abandon for the good pleasure newly barely discovering the game. The game lives because there are volunteers who are making an effort to make it live again, but it lives above all thanks to its "aging" community which knew how to stay until the end, you must not forget that.

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Originally Posted by Chuck Norris

as soon as one transfer happens, I guarantee duped items will explode like wild fire, lets keep it without everyone in certain clans running around in woc 3 pa's and gm spawn ion weapons please please!

A transfer, without equipment, without implant, will not feed any black market or cheating.

I've been told that Terra had too much cheating (for this reason some don't want a transfer) but on Titan as well, I also know, hck, the achievement of the drone still works on Titan and it is not really noticed for now. :eek:
05-10-12, 06:23
Dropout

Quote:

Originally Posted by flib

The way I see it, we're going to need a transfer, unless everyone wants to play an AK spy.
As it is, no one has rares, because rare parts are fucking rare, as they should be, but the AK is NOT rare, and is incredibly easy to obtain. As is WoC because of all the exploiting Droners.

Until everyone gets sorted out with rares, it's just going to be AK spies ruling the server.
It's a real fucking shame, because I was really looking forward to seeing how PVP would play out with only non-rare weapons. I believe that the balance would have been a lot different.
PE's would have been viable, because they can use all the non-rares that Spies can without having to get a shitload of dex.
APU's would be viable, because Holy Toxic Halo is actually pretty good.
Heavy/Melee PE's might have even stood a chance.
You'd just have to watch out when you see a swirly, because here comes a badass!

Honestly, the only realistic thing I can see to remedy this situation is an emergency nerf of the AK and Beretta.

Also, please give me my TL92 Tangent Assault Pulselaser Pistol. :D

Did this come as a surprise to you? O_o

And yes, for the love of everything holy, give us the TL92 Pulselaser pistol!!! I had completely forgotten that you cant currently get that on the server - my PE was ment to use that! :'(
05-10-12, 13:26
William Antrim

Non rare PvP I would love to see. Sadly I doubt it will happen.
05-10-12, 13:38
yavimaya

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Originally Posted by William Antrim

Non rare PvP I would love to see. Sadly I doubt it will happen.

I'd also love to see the server rareless/WOCless for awhile, i bet it would make balancing things a bit easier too.
05-10-12, 14:41
Faid

Quote:

Originally Posted by flib

The way I see it, we're going to need a transfer, unless everyone wants to play an AK spy.
As it is, no one has rares, because rare parts are fucking rare, as they should be, but the AK is NOT rare, and is incredibly easy to obtain. As is WoC because of all the exploiting Droners.

Until everyone gets sorted out with rares, it's just going to be AK spies ruling the server.
It's a real fucking shame, because I was really looking forward to seeing how PVP would play out with only non-rare weapons. I believe that the balance would have been a lot different.
PE's would have been viable, because they can use all the non-rares that Spies can without having to get a shitload of dex.
APU's would be viable, because Holy Toxic Halo is actually pretty good.
Heavy/Melee PE's might have even stood a chance.
You'd just have to watch out when you see a swirly, because here comes a badass!

Honestly, the only realistic thing I can see to remedy this situation is an emergency nerf of the AK and Beretta.

Also, please give me my TL92 Tangent Assault Pulselaser Pistol. :D

Why wouldn't there be any rares? There are tons of tech parts being gathered as we speak, My clan has been stockpiling them, we just can't res them yet. Firemobs have a great drop rate, especially if you're in a rhino, you can get 40 -50 techs a night. Not to mention the trade thats going to pop up once these are all ressed. This will all happen long before large scale PVP on this server. Plus woc discs are very difficult to obtain now, so there wont be a million AK spys running around.
05-10-12, 16:18
Drachenpaladin

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Originally Posted by Faid

Plus woc discs are very difficult to obtain now, so there wont be a million AK spys running around.

And the already obtained/circulating ones?
05-10-12, 20:51
Faid

You mean the one's from the few days people were actually there? There are some discs floating around certainly, but not a million for your million AK spys ;)
05-10-12, 20:53
Chuck Norris

it should be much much easier to obtain disks now considering you can just single pull them out in the open with any old rifle... should be tons of ak spies very soon
05-10-12, 21:04
hatmankh

You have to find them first and then you can't just reset the zone and make them all respawn whenever you want, all groups have their times they spawn at, once they're dead you have to wait hours for them to spawn again.

Half the time you'll kill an entire group and not get a single disc as well.
05-10-12, 21:04
Beckard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torg

So am i. I'm happy we got a fresh, "empty" server with everyone enjoying the PvE and trade parts of Neocron. PvP may add to that later. My vote is: "No char transfers. Never." May my former main chars rest in hibernation.

I support this message
05-10-12, 21:27
Dropout

It wont make any damn difference if there will be character transfers to the server - exept it will give a higher population.
As long as they wait a while - which they obviously will.
In a couple of months everyone will be capped and have WoC.. What difference could it possible do that there came some more people to fight onto the server when that happens?!

I dont get your logic at all tbh.

As long as they limit how much people can take over, IT WILL NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE!

God...

And stop with these threads already. All they do, is to piss me off tbh..
05-10-12, 21:36
zii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dropout

As long as they limit how much people can take over, IT WILL NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE!

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dropout

God... And stop with these threads already. All they do, is to piss me off tbh..

+1111

Please stop.
05-10-12, 22:36
L0KI

Quote:

Originally Posted by flib

The way I see it, we're going to need a transfer, unless everyone wants to play an AK spy.
As it is, no one has rares, because rare parts are fucking rare, as they should be, but the AK is NOT rare, and is incredibly easy to obtain. As is WoC because of all the exploiting Droners.

Until everyone gets sorted out with rares, it's just going to be AK spies ruling the server.
It's a real fucking shame, because I was really looking forward to seeing how PVP would play out with only non-rare weapons. I believe that the balance would have been a lot different.
PE's would have been viable, because they can use all the non-rares that Spies can without having to get a shitload of dex.
APU's would be viable, because Holy Toxic Halo is actually pretty good.
Heavy/Melee PE's might have even stood a chance.
You'd just have to watch out when you see a swirly, because here comes a badass!

Honestly, the only realistic thing I can see to remedy this situation is an emergency nerf of the AK and Beretta.

Also, please give me my TL92 Tangent Assault Pulselaser Pistol. :D

I totally agree with this post. Totally.

This is the main reason I cried for removing WoC for the new server.
05-10-12, 23:36
Sechs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sywyn

We are talking to you about players who lost their entire account after 5 to 10 years of play.
You can't ask them to abandon everything and to treat them as slackers!

I can and I do. Simple as that.
If you want to put your time into a (at the time) dead game, that's fine but don't bitch about it later.
No one knew this was going to happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sywyn

They have been present (for the most part) since the beginning, and have continued to pay their subscription until the recent free offer of Neocron.

This group of players is not more than 14 years old, as you can attest. I don't like your manner of criticizing gratuitously and without basis.

Pretty sure I have been around since NC1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sywyn

For me Neocron is the op's, the battles, my guild, especially the war economy, not of the cyclops at MB. We are speaking of Neocron, of a different gameplay, of a game which is out of the ordinary, you come to serve us your soup like swtor, eve online etc. We don't want that, we want to participate in the new war economy by taking ops, pvp and thus find other players again without having to start again and abandon for the good pleasure newly barely discovering the game. The game lives because there are volunteers who are making an effort to make it live again, but it lives above all thanks to its "aging" community which knew how to stay until the end, you must not forget that.

Have you actually read and understood what I wrote? O.o
That was a comparison and I was stating that you have to put actual time into an (MMO)RPG, just like in EvE or SWTOR.

You talk like you know stuff, you talk about that so called war economy.
Then, let me ask you, do you honestly believe that even 10% of that 'aging' comunity, which was, until recently, to be found on terra, leveled their chars and obtained their equipment through legal means?

You have been told?
Really?
It kinda sounded like I have been around for ages, do as I please.

Also;

@flib
As I'm against a char transfer, I can't fully agree with your post.
Even though, you are completely right and we will see this happening all the time in the comming weeks until there is something done about it.
However, just handing out rares is pretty lame.
As of now, they're hard to get and they are mostly fine.
I'd keep it that way and address issues later on, with a more complete class/balancing overhaul.

I don't see anything wrong shifting the focus away from all the woc stuff, as long as it is done properly.
The terra fights were fucking boring anyway.

TL;DR:
HUGE +1 on the no-woc idea.
05-10-12, 23:45
L0KI

Harsh to those that have them, but I'd say REMOVE all current WoC weapons from the game, and make them drop as E parts along with normal rares. Give them a chance to be lower than 120/120/120/120, and give them the same bonuses that rare weapons have.

They shouldn't be the almighty super-weapons that they are right now, and they CERTAINLY shouldn't be the easiest weapons to obtain with capped 120 stats in the game, which they are right now.

It was a dumb idea then, and it's dumb now.
05-10-12, 23:47
gstyle40

Are u including Ionics as rare or non rare? They have swirly but are built from bps. Cuz ill put my Ionics (both cannon and rifle tanks) up against any cs tank any day of the week!
06-10-12, 04:46
Doc Holliday

Quote:

Originally Posted by L0KI

Harsh to those that have them, but I'd say REMOVE all current WoC weapons from the game, and make them drop as E parts along with normal rares. Give them a chance to be lower than 120/120/120/120, and give them the same bonuses that rare weapons have.

They shouldn't be the almighty super-weapons that they are right now, and they CERTAINLY shouldn't be the easiest weapons to obtain with capped 120 stats in the game, which they are right now.

It was a dumb idea then, and it's dumb now.

the only issue i have there is polluting a rare pool even further. Es take a while for me at the moment ;) haha. otherwise yes they are way too easy to obtain i think. and i dont wanna see a flood of ak spies either.
06-10-12, 06:01
Crodus

Looks like the old transfer probs are still the same. I rocked the beta servers and waged WAR with some seriously bad ass people. I may come back and play again. I have to admit its a little depressing to see people still complaining about KK after all this time. Going to have to think about it...especially knowing I will never transfer my old char and the YEARS I spent creating it. If I come back will I really need to go back to recycling Chitten!!!? Ugh
06-10-12, 06:05
yavimaya

Chitten?
Hey that takes me back! i forget what it was for, but it was a big part of beta4.
Dont worry, i havent heard of chitten in many years.
06-10-12, 11:13
NAPPER

Quote:

Originally Posted by flib

There's AK spies running around and woc discs everywhere. Titan's already fucked; nothing fresh and clean about it, anymore, so we might as well go ahead with character transfers with quickbelt.

These people that have Woc and Aks have worked hard to get sorted. I think they have all done this without cheats/Hacks
and the Devs/GMs are that on top of people that Hack/dupe i dont think they would last long if they did cheat/hack.

Please dont do transfer of Toons. it would destory Titan.

The best thing about titan is everyone is needs everyone to get Stuff sorted like rares. Transfers would kill it
06-10-12, 11:19
Dropout

Quote:

Originally Posted by NAPPER

These people that have Woc and Aks have worked hard to get sorted. I think they have all done this without cheats/Hacks
and the Devs/GMs are that on top of people that Hack/dupe i dont think they would last long if they did cheat/hack.

Please dont do transfer of Toons. it would destory Titan.

The best thing about titan is everyone is needs everyone to get Stuff sorted like rares. Transfers would kill it

Says one of the people with a AK spy.. :lol:
06-10-12, 11:55
NAPPER

Walker you know that clown has got his guys mixed up i have a tank thats str 94 i dont have a spy clown was talking about someone i was with so if you wanna give someone shit over steam or in NC get your facts right first mate
06-10-12, 13:32
Dropout

Quote:

Originally Posted by NAPPER

Walker you know that clown has got his guys mixed up i have a tank thats str 94 i dont have a spy clown was talking about someone i was with so if you wanna give someone shit over steam or in NC get your facts right first mate

Ah sorry about that then. Would have been pretty funny though ;)
And damnit Clown you noob.. lol >.<

Didnt I see you try to buy a WoC disc, not long ago though?
06-10-12, 14:13
NAPPER

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dropout

Ah sorry about that then. Would have been pretty funny though ;)
And damnit Clown you noob.. lol >.<

Didnt I see you try to buy a WoC disc, not long ago though?

Yeah but not for me. it was funny took about 7 guys to get 2 million together
06-10-12, 15:00
Dropout

Quote:

Originally Posted by NAPPER

Yeah but not for me. it was funny took about 7 guys to get 2 million together

Im guessing that none of them was droners..? :p
06-10-12, 19:20
flib

Quote:

Originally Posted by NAPPER

These people that have Woc and Aks have worked hard to get sorted. I think they have all done this without cheats/Hacks
and the Devs/GMs are that on top of people that Hack/dupe i dont think they would last long if they did cheat/hack.

Please dont do transfer of Toons. it would destory Titan.

The best thing about titan is everyone is needs everyone to get Stuff sorted like rares. Transfers would kill it

Hahaha. BULLSHIT.
All 3 of the ones I've seen so far were fucking droners. Funny how I always saw them playing at night, when the GM's were asleep.
06-10-12, 19:47
Kame

At night ?? Lol that argument is so relative, and therefore invalid. This is an international game.

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