[CbT]tanks vs spies/pe's

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Originally Posted by William Antrim

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Originally Posted by jini

Flame terra-ists, curse ex members .............. without mentioning specific names

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well he's constantly mentioning my name and my clan.. tbh isn't discussion of ingame stuff disallowed on the forum? i seem to remember posting ingame stuff a few times and having it edited (back in my noob days =]) or are his posts just edited after i've read them? i never read um twice :p

@nabbl: what the hell man? didn't both clan's agree it was a really decent and EVEN fight, we weren't synching in the UG all the time? (i remember us using it once so we could regroup cause most of us weren't teamed and such).. the majority of the fight was around the gogo where it's nice and flat.. why make bs up about it weeks later, it was a good fight, i could whine that you were using bugged rezz and hiding inside tree's so we couldn't see when you were rezzing, but it was a good fight so that bit doesn't matter too much to me.. i thought i had your respect from our nfing, so do you mind not claiming i have no skill?

well this thread got off topic pretty quick :rolleyes:

As to answer the topic thu, each type of character has its own flaws, its just a matter of how well each player can deal with the flaws.

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Originally Posted by Kierz

well he's constantly mentioning my name and my clan.. tbh isn't discussion of ingame stuff disallowed on the forum? i seem to remember posting ingame stuff a few times and having it edited (back in my noob days =]) or are his posts just edited after i've read them? i never read um twice :p

@nabbl: what the hell man? didn't both clan's agree it was a really decent and EVEN fight, we weren't synching in the UG all the time? (i remember us using it once so we could regroup cause most of us weren't teamed and such).. the majority of the fight was around the gogo where it's nice and flat.. why make bs up about it weeks later, it was a good fight, i could whine that you were using bugged rezz and hiding inside tree's so we couldn't see when you were rezzing, but it was a good fight so that bit doesn't matter too much to me.. i thought i had your respect from our nfing, so do you mind not claiming i have no skill?

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you have no skills :) (ive seen you pvp once and i was on the recieving end and it ended pretty quick so i will leave it at that :D)

Nabbl i loved your post at the end. my english is quite shite. most non native speakers wouldnt say shite so it tickled me and fair play. i think i want to join buccaneos for some op fights as it seems tt is getting a bit over dominant and thats the only real faction making anything of it at the mo (cant comment on atf but i havent seen many around on clanned chars) so hopefully i can help to even the balance.

otherwise great post by will. (no bias here honest)

on topic im glad there is a variation of toons being used in op fights. now i just need to find my favourite.

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Originally Posted by Kierz

why trust ash when he doesn't even read the starting thread.. this is about how things are in an op fighting enviroment.. and he starts going on about how hard spies are to use cause they need to use nanites and psi heal? :p

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Oh... In this case All classes are nice (bar monks of course), Spys have the constant nice damage of xbow, beretta. Tanks nice resists good damage over slow periods of time (bar creed, thats a hellish gun in Op fights :p) and PE's slap bang in the middle, All being PPU buffed bearing in mind.

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Originally Posted by William Antrim

Jini I have often loved to read your posts as theyre usually well thought out, well informed and obviously very well put together but lately all your posts just seem to be flaming your former clan and its, quite frankly, getting a bit stale.

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Well, thanks for your support here :p but I simply answer his questions. Many people forget how hard it is to play a spy or an apu, simply because they play the easiest class of all, and feel fine about this. Besides it was not I that started this thread.

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To that end I have designed you a template, it will hopefully give you a benefit when playing nc in the future as it will speed up the time you take to post on the forum. This will in turn have a positive effect on the time you have to play the game (less time on the forum = more time on your spy and I know this makes you happy). For ease of use (further efficiency) all you need to do is cut and paste said paragraph every time you feel like posting something in the forum and it will cover every point you wish to make.



All of your recent posts just seem to go like this, or at least include one or two of the aspects listed above and I think you should just chill a little. Its not good to have so much anger for one group of people, especially if you cant actually reach out and hit one of them. This is the internet mate, internet gangsters run rife here. People are 10 times braver with a keyboard in their hands than they ever would be in real life.

Take a http://www.weaselcircus.com/funnypics/chillpill.jpg and relax there brother because life was so much funnier and the forum was a lot better back when you were having fun.


Peace brother.

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What happened here bro?
Are you angry that I didnt sent you the rifle spy setup? or that I usually beaten you up in cycrow ? :p In any case, it's good you are back, now try harder with your heroes, and meet me in pp1 -if I can play-
After all, Im just a spy. Cheers bro peace and all..-

Now back to business :p
@Doc: Krazor was great as Kalogen but he decided to make that tank. At the beginning he was doing fine, he even introduce people the AoE cannons. But then a switch turned and he started clipping. By that time and the time followed he forgot how to fight on tank. For some time now, Krazor seems to try his spies once again.

this thread is depressing...i think a gm should lock it.... o_O

I have seen nothing but flaming and shat in anything ive read O.o We all know Tanks and spies are the cookie cutter viable setups, we dont need a threat telling us what we already know.

i still cant see whats the problem with clipping. yes i clip, so what ? you wanna waste your time on complaining about how someone clips. guess what. does it help ? I have no problem if my opponents clip. I have no problem getting the few lasts hits, even tho he can get thru the zoneline or to the ug. or just dissapear, like i care. I still can hit ppl(rarely). Even so theres always the other chance to get the kill. Some ppl clip with purpose some doesent. whats the diffrence. it happends anyway. You wanted it or not.


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tho iv played tank a while. i tried ppuing some time but it was boring. i made a spy i didnt even want to cap it. tho i made him a hacknet spy but i deleted it a while ago. same as my pe. I dont like to play other classes. iv mainly played a tank and im pretty happy i have. even tho back in the days when hybrids ruled the poor world of neocron i still played it. seems like now since there are not that kind of uber class the complaining has gone to tanks. tho i see some pe's equall as tanks. tho there are diffrent methos how to get em down as well. as iv said before, maybe not in here in forums but it doesent matter to me is there a balance or not. i just like neocron. I play it for fun. maybe nc havent never been purely balanced but hey they are getting closer. we didnt have these talks few months ago. ppl just found some "uber" setups and now ppl are complaining tanks are godlike. tho i see some good spies around. rarely cos seems they want to play tanks as well. whats the problem doesent thay trust their spies anymore like back in the days ? maybe its their problem. tank is a nice class to play. and nice to see you jini like ur spies. make em better. dont always complain that u cant be beaten with out cheats. uv already lost.

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Originally Posted by jini

Are you angry that I didnt sent you the rifle spy setup? or that I usually beaten you up in cycrow ? :p In any case, it's good you are back, now try harder with your heroes, and meet me in pp1 -if I can play-
After all, Im just a spy. Cheers bro peace and all..-

Now back to business :p
@Doc: Krazor was great as Kalogen but he decided to make that tank. At the beginning he was doing fine, he even introduce people the AoE cannons. But then a switch turned and he started clipping. By that time and the time followed he forgot how to fight on tank. For some time now, Krazor seems to try his spies once again.

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Not in the slightest bit angry. Cycrow? case of mistaken identity there I think. Haven't been around there since nc1. In any case it was a joke, a bit of humour. Just a jest. I wanted to inject a little humour into the thread and make people see the funny side but youre on it again ragging on someone else. You sound like you and Krazor used to be married and he had an affair the way youre carrying on mate. Its like the incessant whine of a broken air con unit on a hot summers day and personally I didnt think you were like that. Just take it as a bit of harmless banter and leave it at that, theres no point getting your knickers in a twist.

I will have some duels with you soon though as I am keen to fiddle around with my spy once I have collected a few bits n pieces that I feel he needs. In time i will contact you, all in good fun though eh.

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Originally Posted by William Antrim

You sound like you and Krazor used to be married and he had an affair

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...giving birth to you :angel:
Sir William, correct me if I am wrong, but if you really want to carry on between us lovers, please make a new post indicating this. This way you will allow us -the puny mortals- to admire both your intellectual and writing skills as well as your drawing magnificence in all their glory, while at the same time you enjoy the finest glass of Scotch whiskey reading the times, and smoking your pipe.

As for the challenge I do accept it -I am picking up the glove- all that is really left is for you to set the appointment. Forgive me for making a mistake as to who you were (even if I do remember the name and place and yes it must have been back in nc 2.1 not nc 1)

Always in good humour and fun, as NC needs. Furthermore I would kindly ask you to introduce yourself for some picking in ooc, my latest sport :p

Cya and hf :D

I still don't understand what happened between Krazor and Jini in the first place :p but im mates with both of em so when this conversation comes up i run away like a man who enjoys acting lie ka woman and tucks his cock between his legs.....and calls himself emily :cool:

Nothing happened with him.
Krazor don't cheat, but he sadly decided to jump on clipper's side one day. In just one night he decided to do the usual lameness:
Climb the hill-Drop off the hill, and the Mary-Go-Around hackterms procedure... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by silent000

I still don't understand what happened between Krazor and Jini in the first place :p but im mates with both of em so when this conversation comes up i run away like a man who enjoys acting lie ka woman and tucks his cock between his legs.....and calls himself emily :cool:

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Jinis hatred stems from the days pabz told jini "to go away." (In the politest sense) He chose nelly over him. Thus jini acts like a newb to his ex clan mates. If he wasnt harassing Krazor it would be pablo or houston or smurf or pabz again. (If they were playing of course :angel: )

Not even close Alex.
But when a clan or 90% of it cheats, well you react...
You better stay out of this dispute though

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Originally Posted by jini

But when a clan or 90% of it cheats, well you react...
You better stay out of this dispute though

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Thats bullshit and you know it Jini. NOONE FROM (whatever the clan is called now) FUCKING CHEATS, get it into your head ffs.

I cant belive how a grown man can be SO childish :wtf: acting like a fucking teenager :rolleyes:



GMs, why dont you react when you see this constant harassment of our clan? Theres even members quitting because of the constant bullshit from fags like jini, talking shit all the time.




Anyways Nid, give me my 3 day ban from the forum (i guess :( ).

yes please we need some moderation for the unsocialized

If you want people to stop saying you cheat...stop cheating.

Not everyone in your clan cheats, a significant amount does, however the entire clan knows who, how and when.

and you all think its funny and you all gain from it.

Making all of you just as guilty.

Stop with the damage hacks, the speed hacks, the aimbots, the 5 second belt hacks and the other random hacks,cheats and exploits your clan is fond of doing.

The duping too.

Anytime 5 of you are online, 1 of you is cheating, its almost a scientific certainty.

The reason most of you are still here however is because this game is so broken that all the crap you guys pull you always attribute to "lag" "bugs" "omg noob learn 2 play plz".

Personally im glad some of you have "quit" because you cant stop cheating, but sadly it doesnt make up for all the people who quit who dont cheat and are actually valuble members of the playerbase instead of cheating little pricks .

Just because the game has a low pop doesn't entitle you to cheat and waste my money.

wrong...all your ignorance is perpetuating the fact that ppl think we cheat. We had cheaters...they are banned. You don't think KK watches EVERY member of our clan like hawks? You think they would allow such blatantly obvious cheats as damage hacks, insta hacks, and what ever else you guys can invent occur? Like i said...we had cheaters, they are banned. We are trying to move on and recover from our bad rep and it would BE GREAT if we had at least some recognition of this.

On a side note i just **BlOWS ME AWAY** that no GM has stepped into this thread. The harassment we have received from a group of players in this community is like nothing i have ever experienced in any video game. This kind of harassment is why i will not be reactivating my account next month...

Carlsoneo, Jini, and whoever else is continually harassing "terrarists" members-you guys really need to look at YOUR OWN behavior on the servers. I've only been playing for a month and have always been nice to everyone I've met on the server-yet both of you have singled me out and HARASSED me for no reason except for the fact that I'm in clan terrarists/lego/buccaneos. Every time I went to pepper park to fight, I was unduly harassed about something, it got so bad that I refuse to go there anymore (and you claim we ruin the game for you..hmm...). That my friends is GRIEFING, and you all (jini, carlsoneo, julie fatale, ect.) are best at it. That's why I don't understand why terrarists continued to be labeled the worst griefers on the server, because it's not us harassing you, it's you harassing US. If you start acting like adults and evaluate players based on the kind of people THEY ARE, not who their clan is/was,who WAS in their clan, or what their clan did in the PAST, then and only then can you proclaim yourselves better than the people you complain about constantly.

No.

The "all the cheaters in our clan have been banned" routine doesnt work, we know the actual situation is "only the cheaters who got caught have been banned"

You wont get recognition until you get rid of the rest of the cheaters, you know damn well who they are too.

When they get caught and banned by KK it wont make those of you who dont cheat look any better, it will just reinforce the fact that if you want to cheat you should join cheaterrists, not only will they not give you up, they will support and encourage you and turn you into a "better" cheater.

Like I said before, the reason there are still cheaters in your clan is because almost all proof can be debunked by blaming it on things like "Lag" or "bugs" or any number of other excuses you have given in the past and unfortunately there is no way to tell on a case by case basis *most of the time*.

Because KK has decided to completely ignore the ongoing situation with cheaters I also will not be renewing my account until I see some progress.

Firstly because I am sick and tired of not being able to play without seeing someone from your clan cheat everyday.

Secondly because of KKs complete lack of professionalism and any sort of standards I begin to doubt that confidential information like my personal details and credit card information are safe. If this is the sort of response we can expect from KK when it comes to cheaters running rampant on their servers it seriously calls their competence into question.

I do not care about content.
Fix the game.

PS.
Goatt, ive never spoken to you, so I dont know where you get the idea that I harass you all the time... But my advice to you is that if you dont want to be "Harassed" for being a cheater or whatever, dont associate with people who created the opportunity to begin with.

The point of a clan, team or organization is that you share the responsibility of your combined actions in your attempts to achieve a common goal, if you dont want to deal with the responsibility and fall out created by the rampant cheaters in your clan, either do something about them or leave the clan.

Are you married? Available? PM ME, you're amazing. lol.....

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Originally Posted by William Antrim

Jini I have often loved to read your posts as theyre usually well thought out, well informed and obviously very well put together but lately all your posts just seem to be flaming your former clan and its, quite frankly, getting a bit stale.

To that end I have designed you a template, it will hopefully give you a benefit when playing nc in the future as it will speed up the time you take to post on the forum. This will in turn have a positive effect on the time you have to play the game (less time on the forum = more time on your spy and I know this makes you happy). For ease of use (further efficiency) all you need to do is cut and paste said paragraph every time you feel like posting something in the forum and it will cover every point you wish to make.



All of your recent posts just seem to go like this, or at least include one or two of the aspects listed above and I think you should just chill a little. Its not good to have so much anger for one group of people, especially if you cant actually reach out and hit one of them. This is the internet mate, internet gangsters run rife here. People are 10 times braver with a keyboard in their hands than they ever would be in real life.

Take a http://www.weaselcircus.com/funnypics/chillpill.jpg and relax there brother because life was so much funnier and the forum was a lot better back when you were having fun.


Peace brother.

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carl...like i said..they are watching us like hawks. If you have evidence of a member of our cheating then I ENCOURAGE YOU to send it in. Like i said...we are trying to get a better rep. Our cheaters are banned and we are trying to move on. Stop whining about cheats. If you have evidence send it in and leave it at that. If what you say is legit..they will get banned. Im not even going to address some of the other things you said...they are just too...wow i dont even know how to respond to them..

Lets all get a life perhaps lol

Yeh... or force them to do stupid things when never doing stupid things ever. :wtf:

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Originally Posted by Bredahl

Thats bullshit and you know it Jini. NOONE FROM (whatever the clan is called now) FUCKING CHEATS, get it into your head ffs.

I cant belive how a grown man can be SO childish :wtf: acting like a fucking teenager :rolleyes:



GMs, why dont you react when you see this constant harassment of our clan? Theres even members quitting because of the constant bullshit from fags like jini, talking shit all the time.




Anyways Nid, give me my 3 day ban from the forum (i guess :( ).

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Originally Posted by Kazuya

Lets all get a life perhaps lol

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In all seriousness, thank you for posting that..just gets me heated when i repeatedly see this stuff. Nice to be reminded how childish it really is..im not commin back to this thread 8|

omfg cant we get over this fucking bullshit abou cheating. I guess the fucking stupid gms are watching the ones who they thing would cheat and are cheating. KK arent that stupid that they would just let ppl to cheat. some ppl are maybe monitored and some are not. why u always complaine about GM WHATS THAT MOTHERFUCKING NOOB WHO IS CHEATING. CHECK HES SPEED AND AIM SO WE CAN BE SAFE JUST COS HES BETTER THAN US !!! OMFG WE GET PWNED BY A CHEATER. lol u fucking cunt carebears. KK is doing a good job. just give some trust. dont be a fucking lameass noobie carebear bitches. just play the game and have fun!

if ppl think that tank is "uber" class in the game with out a ppu. yes i might agree. but u might try to try some tactics agaist tanks, fast tanks or uber fast tanks. there is one. just try to figure out and leave ur fucking stupid imaginary behind.

The amount of testosterone in this thread is almost visible ;)

no shit why jini is still trying hes bshit complaining about how everyone cheatss and he has sent his list of cheaters to KK. thast pathedic. whos getting banned. in game not in forum. i might get banned cos im tired of this fucking bshit about cheating. yee I CLIP??? do something about it. everyone CLIPS EVEN THEY WANT IT OR NO. WHATS THW POINT. PARA AGAIN ? MAKE IT MORE WORST. no we play and we have the fights in the ops we think there not too much clipping.
or there where its safe to surviev ? dont give a shit. pp is fine for me. i get owned alot there like i care. pp is the place to fight when theres no op fights. theres too less ppl to fight all the time but theres always time for flaming and accucing of cheathing. whats the proble ? u ppl get owned too many often that u cant hadle it ? maybe u should go to urself and realize u just suck or ur just too tired to have fun.

Amen brother.

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Originally Posted by Vila

no shit why jini is still trying hes bshit complaining about how everyone cheatss and he has sent his list of cheaters to KK. thast pathedic. whos getting banned. in game not in forum. i might get banned cos im tired of this fucking bshit about cheating. yee I CLIP??? do something about it. everyone CLIPS EVEN THEY WANT IT OR NO. WHATS THW POINT. PARA AGAIN ? MAKE IT MORE WORST. no we play and we have the fights in the ops we think there not too much clipping.
or there where its safe to surviev ? dont give a shit. pp is fine for me. i get owned alot there like i care. pp is the place to fight when theres no op fights. theres too less ppl to fight all the time but theres always time for flaming and accucing of cheathing. whats the proble ? u ppl get owned too many often that u cant hadle it ? maybe u should go to urself and realize u just suck or ur just too tired to have fun.

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*farts*