The fact that is was and still is one of the most unique MMOFPS games with such a loyal community is what I believe is responsible for Neocron living so long !
And may it last many more years !
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The fact that is was and still is one of the most unique MMOFPS games with such a loyal community is what I believe is responsible for Neocron living so long !
And may it last many more years !
-a very old and very nice clan
-the pvp and its system
-the fact that you can log in and log out whenever you want without having stress
for example in another game, (with elves...) if you want to pve, you have to invest a lot of time to be successfull. farming every day, lvling very much to get better equip and and and. you need 25 ppl to have fun in a game.
... unforgettable.
This actually, is a great point. I liked that I could go out and play in a world all on my own, or find a team if wanted. It seems like all the other MMOs are so team focused that it really takes away from the experience for me. Sometimes I just want to be in a world all of my own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler_Durdon
Honestly, its the community. I may have not logged into the game in ages, but I still check out the forums regularly, even though I may not always post :)
Good luck to everyone, I'll be sneaking around :)
Neocron is the only MMORPG I have ever been addicted to.
There are several reasons for that, the main one being it's former total immersion for me. I could happily get lost in, and live in Neocron daily.
- There's also the dire need to improve at PvP. No matter how good I became, playing it daily, I always wanted to become better than everyone else.
Arguably, this is something shared across all MMORPGs, but with Neocron, the PvP system is complex on so many levels, and requires actual reactional based skill.
What keeps me coming back, however, is the community. Although I'm not half as well known as I was in 2004, still, whenever I return, I am welcomed back with open arms.
I have made several friends in Neocron, and met some people I will never forget. Oh, and they're almost all mature. No ridiculous kids.
Neocron for me, is the best multiplayer game I have every played. Nothing ever came close.
The only major negative is the lack of updates. More updates would bring more people back to the game, thus improving your profits, and ensuring it's continued survival.
Long live Neocron, and all that.
Hmm.
One thing, it's totally 'free' - in the gameworld sense of the word. Want to make a fucked up setup? Go for it, you may hit gold. Want to run to MB though you've just rolled a new guy? Go for it, you can do it if you're careful. None of this bs where a mob you absolutely cannot kill pops up to keep you where you should be (I'm looking straight at WoW here) - it's so open ended.
Another one, which I can't quite believe I'm saying... is the people :p
The people that like Neocron seem to be of a particular type - for the main part - we all share a similar, fucked up sense of humour, and that really is unique to NC, as far as I can tell. For all the shit-talking and nonsense that goes on, put (again.. for the main part) the worst sworn enemies in a room together, and you can bet they strike up a rapport on some level.
Part of that is due to (or perhaps I'm mixing up cause and effect...) the small community here, and KK are part of that community too. Where else would the head honcho pop up and announce to the server he's making Assman drop his pants? Where else would we find the immortal and defiant reply "We never said NC was for pussies", to a negative review? You get the distinct impression that KK are just like us: just ever so slightly fucked up, in a good way :p
It's odd to see a KK employee ask why NC is still around.
Obviously, someone at KK's done the numbers and it's still financially viable to keep it running, for one reason or another.
Why don't you tell us why NC's still operating?
We LOVE Neocron
Thank you :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IceStorm
Neocron is... only around because KK has continued to let it run, presumably in someone's basement ;)
But Ice is right - the real question is a turn-around to KK:
In a market where most MMOs are shut down if they don't maintain a # of active subscribers, why has Reakktor left NC up and running? Realistically, Neocron isn't really "alive and well" but it is definitely still here. And currently, KK isn't making a penny of anyone's account... so it begs the above question.
More crap MMOs titles are being produced every year without a single original idea. The good game ideas that aren't a simply copy & skin versions of WoW - Tribes, Neocron, Planetside, TR - never seem to be revised into sequels or updated versions, which I really don't get.
If a UT3 Engine Version of Tribes came out, thousands would play.
If NC came out with a new engine, mostly-seamless world, and a the half-dozen features it really need to compete in the MMO market, it would gobble up the non-fantasy side of the market.
Planetside is still active after all these years - I played in a 100 vs 100 vs 100 fight for hours over a continent just last night and had a blast. Yet no word of a Planetside 2...
The MMO market just confuses me. Games like TR get shut down and WoW-clones like f'ing Aion get released. What makes developers think it would be easier to STEAL players from a well established and growing fanbase rather than consolidate all the lost non-fantasy players? And what's even more boggling - who are the f'ing idiot that think it's a good idea to INVEST in these games? I know it sounds ideal to get a piece of the WoW action, but it's not going to happen. Isn't that obvious by now? o_O
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One interesting thing from over at the TR Forums:
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Originally Posted by Dev_Ridout
Well for one its 'free' right now. That overcomes what has been the biggest issue which has kept me from staying. The payment methods are just too painfull. What kept it going during NC 1 and early NC2 was the support was good and plenty of involvement from the staff, GM etc. (patches, new content)
Even after all that went away the game is still fun and most of the community is cool. Just like others have stated, you can come and go as you please, no need to wait around for hours to do raids, missions, etc.
i first played neocron in beta two, and i got addicted to it pretty damn fast back then, hell i still remember the feelings when exploring the world back then, my first pk, my first rare wep dropped from a pvp kill, was all very strong feelings, hell this is like the only game i got emotionally tied with due to the adrenaline it gave back then ... personally for me neocron two stripped alot of that away :/ cant really explain why, it just did... it still lives because no other game has that ... its not just the game though, its the universe, the setting of neocron, story, classes etc, the feeling of the world ...
one thing i would like to see though when everything financially levels out for you guys would be to effectively scrap the current engine your working with (is it still genesis ?) and to start from the ground up, remaking the same universe, only with seamless zoning, and graphics from this decade... the core to the rpg system behind neocron is soorted out, personally i feel what holds it back now is that it looks really dated, and the 'neocron 2' release didnt help things much with that, the whole 'updated graphics' thing basically went unnoticable, lost in a shitload of new grass decals and awful avatar models ...
the PVP system is one of a kind, even though its not a true FPS they did a decent job in the way the weapons work.
another thing i really loved about NC was the ability to be able to buy all the weapons for cheap amounts in shops then be able to have a constructor build the weapon after being researched. a very good system IMO.
the stats are also very unique with the 5 main skills, then all of their subskills.
leveling in NC wasnt even that bad... yeah ive spent countless hours in the caves at CRP and MC5 but it didnt feel half as bad as leveling in WOW. and the feeling you get when your finally able to use a new weapon that you modded out with all the leet stuff, awsome.
however i havent played more than 2-3 months since NC2 launched, and its even free now wtf?
IMO the biggest things that made me turn away from NC2 had to be the new models, and more importantly the animations for PSI.... i mean wtf were you thinking KK? no more elves anyone?
in NC1 when someone was casting a HL it actually looked like they were trying to attack you, not praise allah.
I and the 3 friends i played NC with all agree the new models and animations are what killed half the game.
btw the renaming of all implants and things completely confused the shit outta me. i also liked the stats of the NC1 chips :p
played NC for years, since before open beta and I really miss my neocron :angel:
First/Third person combat that requires aiming skill in combat. It has none of the press a key to select a target and press another key to launch an attack rubbush.
Stats and Skills system allows more freedom by giving allocatable points per level. Personally I've always preferred this approach to leveling.
Cyber-punk atmosphere is just mint, I can't describe why it just is.
The choice to avoid PvP without having to be on a separate server, once you are ready for it you just take out your LE cpu.
The characteristics of some of the weapons are mint - I just love the sound and of plasma weapons and they way they shoot the blobs of plasma. Fusion shots looks very cool. I also like the way runners bleed spouts of blood when hit from the likes of the assault rifles.
The player trade system is good also, relying on players to get the best item stats etc. The only thing I dislike is having to give someone your items to get repaired or modded.
Seeing as this thread has become more of a "why do I like NC" thread rather than talking about the real answer (which I think my first post, Icestorms and FN's covered pretty simply):
Going back to the thread about TR (and also to a lesser extent CoX) one thing I have always enjoyed is the reward for exploration in Neocron. I really like exploring. Like really like it. And while I think Neocron could be significantly better in that respect, there are dozens of things around both the wastes and the cities that you won't know about unless you go searching. Some is purley aesthetic, some are valuable levelling areas, some are quest starters and some are just plain confusing (steppe maze, mainsewers, I'm looking at you here)