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Ah! Urban camo...
hmm...
well, considering that DoY has such a grunky color palette, the MB is dingy beige and rust, and Neocron is gray/white/black... that's hardly *really* urban camo. Unless you're talking about Tech Haven, whereupon anyone wearing that in a full-suit will frigging DISAPPEAR!
Oh, and I got time to scan in my pieces, so I'm doing them now. Thank goodness for college arts major, mucho flex in schedules.
Hey heavy, which college you in? Im at the art Institute of San Diego, ow bout you?
eh? theres an art institute of sd? O_o
aaanyways, i think i have a fun little thing that i need to scan
Razzor said that he wanted me to doodle his char with a sleevless blue camo shirt, black pants, cowboy boots, long blue hair, and a long unbuttoned black trench coat :) I had a lot of trouble with the trench coat so I erased it out, and spiced up the boots to make them look more futuristic :P
I drew another stripper while trying to work on my anatomy and proportions and general 'sultry appearance' that I somehow achieved with my first stripper :P
If the last stripper attempt was a circus-freak stripper, this one is a marching band geek stripper (not by intent... I guess it's the thick gold strings that make me feel that way :P)
Her face looks really kind of mopey but still sort of mysterious, which is cool :)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...3/stripper.jpg
I'm in the process of trying to fix up Clive's pirate doodle but this is the first time I've ever tried to work on someone else's art! It's a very new experience for me! I'll have it done eventually! :)
I'm also really looking forward to seeing your (quak and heavy)'s doodles! I can't wait!! :)
Er, Sunny, that looks more like a gypsy gal to me 0_o
And, Clive, I'm an Art and Tech major at Ohio State University, you know, not the technical arts stuff like graphics design or stuff like that, but rather, conceptual 3d sculpture, robotics and interactive new media and such.
cool stuff, I shoulda said Im a game art & design major (covering 3d modeling, Character/story/environment concept design, and animation, ect.) Im only a 3rd of the way through he entire thing, but I've learned a lot, an hopefully Ill be able to support myself in my field Im going into (or so we all hope huh?)
Lookin forward to seeing your stuff guys. PS-Hell Ill be working on the comic, just asking some friends on methods for doing webcomics.
pps- nice highlights on the ass region Rose, very nice :D
PEace out
Fuckin'ally the damn things get scanned in. I can't believe how tricky it was to adjust the scans to be anywhere near the original drawings. Well, not drawings, but more sketches, as I said.
I'm very much unhappy with them. So embarassing, but it's time to simply let them go.
1 - scanner didn't like this one, apparently. I think I have to re-scan this on different settings. Pic on left is a monk in an abbey. Pic on left is a spy in PA looking at his last pill.
2 - a smuggler PSI Monk handing over a datadisc to a nasty GenTank. I seriously thought about coloring this one simply to show off the cybereye in the GenTank.
3 - Pic on left is a hacker spy at a citycom. Note hacktool and stealthtool. I tried to be a bit stylish in this one. I frigging love the citycom here. Pic on right is an crazed Anarchy Breed gal that's been using salvaged armor. Her skirt is a tire hub with chains attached. Yes, these are fishing hooks braided into her hair. Proportions simply suck in this one. I totally messed it all up.
4 - This is a Tangent tough being ambushed. The eyes, I rather like, but wish I did them better. Whole scene seems a bit... off. Probably the face's proportions.
5 - This is a very rough sketch of a hunting scene. A gentank and female rifler spy in here, they've just taken down a Reaper-class creature. Yes, that's a new gun design. I like to think of it as either a large-bore sabot thrower or even better, a REAL shotgun cannon. Mmmmm.
Mmmmmm, indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavyporker
I need to get some drawings done...haven't done any since my black dragon guy... :lol:
Have another one I banged out in front of the telly in about 5 mins.
I wonder what shes smoking :/
Your hair she stole in your last fight with her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asurmen Spec Op
ow :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Skusty
Joint duh.. RF/NS mix.
You know, Sunny has been doing way too much of the drawing on this thread.
Maybe we could include "characters in sigs" as a way to get more people interested in showing off?
You saw the quality of my drawing earlier in the thread. YOu don't want more of that. I'll just sit here and appreciate the art, thanks.
Both my friggin scanners broke..... :(
sw33t, me and me buddies from Always tommorrow are starting up a weekly Webcomic meeting, so Ill be able to actually construct some comics soon, with help of course.
PS sorry hell for nothing yet, I just got back in school, and over my break, I ended up doing more work for money than for play (gotta get money for books somehow)
get moving on that frigging Neocron webcomic, dammit!
lol @ the first comic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clive tombstone
I don't like posting in this thread without a doodle so here's an older thingy I did that I quickly colored in! :)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...03/quickie.jpg
OK! Now that that's out of the way... :P
Heavyporker - I loved how you didn't just focus on one person at a time but instead thought out the entire scene! That's really cool and takes a great deal of work (judging by how everything meshes together, it's obvious that you thought of the scenes before drawing it on paper)... My favorite 'scene' is the tangent guy being ambushed (#4), it looks like it came straight out of a movie! The monk and spy one (#1) comes in a close second, I really like the spy's expression.
Tidus - I really loved your BD guy, it totally rocked my socks and I am desperately awaiting more from you!! :)
DJ - You can draw the same person over and over again while still keeping everything the way it should be, in terms of facial structure and proportions. It's something that I have extreme difficulty in doing and I'm very jealous of you for being able to do that so effortlessly :P
CMaster - This thread isn't here to show off your technical talent! It's for everyone to show everyone else how they interpret their char and the world around them! You paid a lot of attention to the detail in your first (and hopefully not last) doodle, I can tell exactly which face and hairstyle it is ingame, that's really cool! I definately would love to see more doodles from you!! :)
If it would encourage more people to show how they interpret things in the game I would be more than happy to make another tutorial starting with the blank sheet of paper and ending it with me posting on here!!
A tutorial would be hella cool sunny, since I cant do half(or .005%) that you can
asurmen, sure you can. All it takes is practice. Hard to believe, yes, but it's true.
Just start out with the pencil in your hand and some scrap paper. Sketch the chair or table in front of you - this'll get you started on proportions, scale, and the "feel" of just drawing.
Don't worry about texture or shading. Don't worry about getting it perfect. Just do quickies. It's like writing letters or drawing shapes like triangles and circles - you'll get the hang of the simpler things quite quickly. You can just practice on fruit, other pencils, plants, even that squirrel sitting on the ground chewing on a nut. Just practice.
If you get hung up on pencil, just get ink and brush and just do really quick impulse sketching of something in front of you - this is a pretty damn good way to get the "feel" of whatever's in front of you - the table's lines, the woman's curves, the folds of cloth, etc.
I can acually paint models semi-well, but drawing is bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavyporker
I can code 100s of times better then I can draw
Me some time ago.
What? Skins have changed?? no no it's only a mask affair^^
http://www.0mg.ch/trib/img/toile.jpg
Ooo I wanna draw that gimme a day Ill get a sketch of that :D
Clive you hussy!
You've found someone else!
How could you!
We were gonna make comics beautiful comics!
BASTARD!
OK! Here's my step-by-step walkthrough of how I did a doodle, from paper all the way to posting it here! :)
1) Get an idea
I was running around DOY a day or two ago and I stopped to look at a boobs 'n guns employee!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...orial/idea.jpg
I thought that she's very boring and simple (not to mention completely unprotected) so I decided to draw how I felt she should look! :)
Most of my other doodles pop into my head out of boredom or when I feel like illustrating a certain feeling or event I had! :)
2) Draw it on paper
Think of the different ways that your idea can be expressed :) How will the pose and expression play an effect? will the subject be happy, mopey, arrogant? What will the pose be like? Standing proud, slouched over, dead?
Try to remember all of these things before you start doodling! :)
3) Scan it in
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17.../tutorial1.jpg
Go into File > Import > your scanner's name (mine is WIA-EPSON Perfection 2400)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17.../tutorial2.jpg
Click on "Adjust the quality of this picture" - we need to change its DPI (dots per inch)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17.../tutorial3.jpg
Put in 500 DPI! That's my favorite number to use, it's not too big but still detailed!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17.../tutorial4.jpg
Here's my picture :) It's a mess! But that's not a problem, because when we ink it we'll basically be redrawing it, which is nice!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17.../tutorial5.jpg
At this point I made the image bigger, since it was too tiny for my tastes!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17.../tutorial6.jpg
I made it 500% bigger!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17.../tutorial7.jpg
Now we need to get ready to ink it! :) To do that, we're going to change the dark lines into something less black, by going into Image > Adjustments > Levels!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17.../tutorial8.jpg
Here you can see that by using the settings that I have, the grey pencil strokes have been changed into a light blue color, which is nice :)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17.../tutorial9.jpg
Here it is in bright blue!
4) Ink it
Create a new layer called 'inking'! This is the layer that all of the inking will be done on. This way we can trace the drawn doodle, and make it invisible after we're done.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial10.jpg
To get started with inking, we're going to click on the paintbrush tool and select a nice brush. I prefer the slightly slanted ones (like I have selected in the picture) since the size and shape varies depending on its direction!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial11.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...ng/inking5.jpg
Now we select the pen tool using the setting shown above!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial12.jpg
After drawing the path with the pen tool, right click anywhere on the canvas to bring up this menu! We want to outline the path, so click on 'stroke path'
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial13.jpg
The brush needs to be selected! It'll stroke the path using the brush that we had selected earlier! Also, I prefer to use simulated pressure though others may not. Here's the difference between the two on the same path.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial14.jpg
With simulated pressure
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial15.jpg
Without simulated pressure
Simulated pressure makes the line widest as it approaches the middle portion, and thinnest at the beginning and the end. The variation that simulated pressure provides (in addition to the variation that the brush will give us in different directions) really rocks my socks, so I like to use it.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial16.jpg
I did a little bit more inking while you were reading that last section, sorry. Hope you don't mind!
At this point in time you may want to make a new layer beneath the drawn doodle entitled 'background'. I I like to use a nice grey color (175 RGB) so when we get to doing shadows and highlights, we can see both of them (too light of a background will make the highlights invisible and too dark of a background will make the shadows invisible). If you make the drawn doodle layer invisible, you can see the progress of the inking layer. Here's what mine looks like so far. I forgot to shrink it down before I uploaded it, sorry!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial18.jpg
OK! I'm finally done inking! This is normally the longest part in doodling!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial19.jpg
Here it is on the grey background!
5) Begin shading
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial20.jpg
Now we're going to begin shading! For this, fuzzy blurry brushes like the ones I have selected are the best, but you can use other brushes and get some really interesting effects! It's very important that the opacity of the paintbrush is set to 10% at this time! :)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial21.jpg
Here are all of the layers I have so far! I just added two more for highlights and shadows right now. Some people may like to do both of them on one layer, but I like to spread things out and merge them together when I'm done. (I normally put the shadows and highlights layer underneath the inked layer but I forgot this time... the white from the highlights will show over the black inking and it'll look really weird! Make sure that the inking layer goes on top!)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial22.jpg
I added the shadows now! It looks like of unbalanced but that's only because I haven't done the highlights yet.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial23.jpg
I'm done with the highlighting now. The quick and easy way to do highlighting is simply by whitening all of the areas that aren't shaded in. The shinier you want it to be, the more white you add.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial24.jpg
A trick that I use to show me if I'm done with shading is to make the inked layer invisible. If I can see what is what without the solid black ink lines to show me, then I think I'm finally done with inking :)
6- Begin coloring
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial25.jpg
When I color, I give each color it's own layer. One layer for all of the red, one for the skin, one for the gold, etc etc. As you can see I get careless here - the other layers will cover up the places where the skin shouldn't be showing!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tutorial26.jpg
I just finished coloring here! The highlighting and shadowing seem a little bit harsh on the colors but that's nothing a Filter > Blur > Gaussian blur won't fix!
After putting in a background and applying some other effects the doodle is done!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...3/finished.jpg
I saved it in photoshop by clicking on 'Save for Web' in the file menu. That'll compress the image's size but leave the quality relatively untouched!
And then I'm all done! This particular doodle took a really long time (4.5ish total hours), but my other doodles normally need around 2!
I hope this tutorial helps everyone and encourages everyone to show their interpretation of NC stuff! :) As you can see, the inking, shadowing and coloring can make the messiest, ugliest doodle look halfway decent!
PS - send me a PM if I was unclear in a certain area and I'll try my best to help you through it, I know I'm not the greatest writer/teacher :P
PPS - NaoK I love that picture and especially the mathematic equations that it's linked too! Are you a photographer? :)
sorry mun i just see ur pictures as fun colouring books :D hope u dont mind again
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/5473/colour6pr.jpg
draw me more stoof to colour in ^_^ haha
sunny thats one hell of an intresting tutorial 8| very impressive !
Cheers, im gonna start playing around right away :P
OK heres one i did.. took me all day lol but i am really happy with the result.
it my first try at this sort of thing so plz dont laugh.
Sunny thxs for the tutorial it was a great help :D