(POLL) APU Casting Frequency

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08-10-12, 06:34
Manosteel36

(POLL) APU Casting Frequency
In the current state of the game I would say Most players in PvP are HC Tanks, Spies, PPU.
I think to enhance NC, and create a little more diversity two things should happen:
- APU Fequency should be increased, for those that played NC1 / early NC2 should remember the Holy Lightning machines that were APUs, which had a large following in PvP.
- Melee combat should be tuned to be viable in PvP for tanks, there is 0% of the population as melee tanks right now, and I remember when this was at least an Option for tanks to pick for PvP.
So I'd like to poll people on these two points, APU freq and Melee Tanks - please reply with:
Y/N - APU Freq
Y/N - Melee Tanks

Then continue to discuss below your vote!
08-10-12, 09:07
nomoreheadtrips

Yes - APU Freq
Yes - MC Tank
08-10-12, 09:20
L0KI

I think you forgot a major one... PEs.

But yes, I think everyone agrees that APUs and Melee tanks need tweaking, along with PEs.
08-10-12, 09:21
Brooklyn

Yes to both
08-10-12, 09:34
Doc Holliday

yes in every single other thread made on this topic previouslytoo.
08-10-12, 09:40
Linear

Yes, Yes, and for PPU tweaking Yes too
08-10-12, 11:16
Shazam

tank yes, apu yes, pe yes,

......

para yes!
08-10-12, 12:02
Ascension

APU - Antibuff, PPU - Parashock

And yes to the OP!
08-10-12, 13:03
Shazam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ascension

APU - Antibuff, PPU - Parashock

And yes to the OP!

THIS! and S/D :)
08-10-12, 13:20
Dropout

Yes to APU, Melee and a very big yes to PEs!

A HUGE no to bring back parashock (in any form).
08-10-12, 13:55
CMaster

PPUs still have parashock. It's really weak, but that's the way it should be.

No to an APU freq increase. APUs need a role change, not a damage buff. If you make them as strong as other classes, we'll return to the horror that was pre-2.2 Monk-o-cron. If they're weaker, then they'll barely be used. They need a different slot to competing with tanks as pure combat.

No objections to buffing melee, but honestly, that shouldn't be done on its own - it should be done as part of fixing weapon damage as a whole.

PEs again need sorting, but as part of a broader look at what there place should be, not just making them slightly better mini-spies.
08-10-12, 15:16
Brammers

Usually most threads like these don't take into account the whole picture, but I'll bite for once.

APU - Frequency increase back to NC1/NC2 days err big no. I would like a very small increase, but not on the scale going back to NC1/NC2 frequency rates. (What like 2-3 times?)

MC - Not convinced buffing up MC will do anything to help here, since I've been convinced it's a netcode issue that makes M-C tanks crap in PvP. May be wrong on this one.
08-10-12, 15:34
Dropout

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brammers

MC - Not convinced buffing up MC will do anything to help here, since I've been convinced it's a netcode issue that makes M-C tanks crap in PvP. May be wrong on this one.

Sure it has a Little to do with the netcode, however with some getting used to, its easy to hit every time. Sadly the damage is still pretty bad.

Edit: And I do agree about "the Whole Picture".
Theres lots of Things that needs balancing. I do not envy the volunteer team...
08-10-12, 16:39
Faid

the freq on a holy lightning went from 105/min to 35/min I believe and they added a reticle effectively killing the whole class, So yes an increase would be great, maybe not back to 105 but definitely higher than 35.

Yes to melee also
08-10-12, 16:52
WildAnt

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMaster

PPUs still have parashock. It's really weak, but that's the way it should be.

No to an APU freq increase. APUs need a role change, not a damage buff. If you make them as strong as other classes, we'll return to the horror that was pre-2.2 Monk-o-cron. If they're weaker, then they'll barely be used. They need a different slot to competing with tanks as pure combat.

No objections to buffing melee, but honestly, that shouldn't be done on its own - it should be done as part of fixing weapon damage as a whole.

PEs again need sorting, but as part of a broader look at what there place should be, not just making them slightly better mini-spies.

Fully Agreed. In my opinion, the APU has to be a Supporter - Antishield/Def/Prot/Heal. The old APU with actual dmg/freq should be fine.

Melee Tank needs something special for a better protection and a dmg boost.

Summary:

APU Freq - No.
Melee Tanks - Yes.

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