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Judge
24-05-04, 01:16
Ok, I know that NC>SWG etc etc, and I would never discredit that. But does the new expansion (however much of a dodgy name) look pretty good to you guys? It actually had realtime combat in space. I'm not sure if I'm just getting won over by evil sony's advertising but I'm thinking that I might try it out when the expansion comes out.

Does anyone know something about this which would make is alot more shit?

Garg [RogueNET]
24-05-04, 01:21
im going to test SW:G ..... *looks around to see NC ppl with junkknifes and murder in their gaze*

Spider J.
24-05-04, 03:34
It will be as crap and carebear as the rest of the game. Imagine ... as it is right now, you could fly straight up to a rebel X-Wing (with you being Imperial) and not shoot him if he chooses to stay covert (not showing his faction allegiance). Yay, way to go Sony! :p

Tank!
24-05-04, 04:00
It will be as crap and carebear as the rest of the game. Imagine ... as it is right now, you could fly straight up to a rebel X-Wing (with you being Imperial) and not shoot him if he chooses to stay covert (not showing his faction allegiance). Yay, way to go Sony! :p

You should read more about the game before posting, that is entirely false. O_o

Anyway, the expansion looks good and its long overdue like NC's DoY. Though from the looks of it, DoY will endup drawing back the old NC players again.

Vid Gamer
24-05-04, 04:11
No matter what you all say, SWG is a decent game.

It has gotten much better since launch, and the JTL expansion really looks awesome. Of course, I am a SW fan, but even as a gamer it is a good game and there's a TON of stuff to do (unlike Neocron).

Although I will mostly be devoting my time to Matrix Online, JTL will catch my attention when it is released this Fall.

naimex
24-05-04, 04:30
when I played SWG, the combat system was the thing that made me stop.

it was pure wank.. but I played NC alongside all the time.

And when the customizeable apartments come, then I have no reason at all to consider going to SWG again just for their houses.



anyways, who thinks up those names.. heard a lot of new releases and all got weirdass names..



sorry to go offtopic here, but havenīt heard about that expansion, anyone have a link to features, so i can see what Iīm missing out on ?

Vid Gamer
24-05-04, 04:48
when I played SWG, the combat system was the thing that made me stop.

it was pure wank.. but I played NC alongside all the time.

I agree. SWG's PvP isn't the best, but there is a combat revamp coming this summer before the expansion. It's supposed to be HUGE, not just updating the system, but actually making a totally new one that emphasizes more strategy in combat, where it isn't just who has the best armor and spams their specials. It looks promising.


And when the customizeable apartments come, then I have no reason at all to consider going to SWG again just for their houses.

Not like you would play SWG just for the customizable houses, right? lol


sorry to go offtopic here, but havenīt heard about that expansion, anyone have a link to features, so i can see what Iīm missing out on ?

Just check the main SWG site. It has a bunch of E3 videos and details on the expansion.

naimex
24-05-04, 04:51
Not like you would play SWG just for the customizable houses, right? lol



:wtf:

actually I did for 2 or 3 months....

Vid Gamer
24-05-04, 09:15
:wtf:

actually I did for 2 or 3 months....

Why in God's name would you do that?

No wonder you got bored with the game.

slaughteruall
24-05-04, 13:36
I beta tested SW:G. Told myself i wasn't going to pay for it untill the expansion came out. So with that in mind i've been looking at the expansion a lot lately. Will probally pick it up and give it a go when it's released.

Slaughter

rob444
24-05-04, 13:55
SWG seems pretty nice. I dont mind "target and autoattack", it's actually a relief :)
I dont know how balanced the game is in pvp, like if higher level players always win over lower level players. I dont mind if it's that way either.. As long as you can do much in a game it's cool with me. :cool:

Furion
24-05-04, 14:39
SWG was fun until i could solo 10 enraged rancors at the same time, then it got boring (i was even the mayor of a town :p)

Judge
24-05-04, 14:48
Whats the skill system like? I know its tree based... but to be good in PvP do you have to specialise completely in one area? Or can you have different skills and still be good?

BeaNo
24-05-04, 15:09
The PvP atm is still essentially flawed. Couple of classes are overpowered and then theres defense stackers, which unless u r equal to them generally wipe the floor with u, and yes u generally have to be a master of a prof to be viable in fightin in PvP, but like i said few things need to be fixed, and hopefully with combat revamp they will be.

Back on topic, looking forward to the expansion (vids and screenies look cool) and all the publishes in the mean time, the futre of SWG is certainly looking up imo.

BeaNo

hinch
24-05-04, 15:44
i recently restarted playing swg after cancelling once and coming back to nc

now ive gone back to swg and am loving it. i dont even feel the urge to enter into pvp im enjoying the laid back pvm etc and the crafting and economy etc superb if only nc was like 1/8th the size of swg it may be worth playing

YoDa-UK
24-05-04, 15:55
SWG is a half decent game, if you ignore PvP side of it completely, the rest of it is ok, its big, plenty to explore, lots of different mobs to kill on several massive planets, no zones either which is always a winner.

But make no mistake, unless you really are into RP'ing, you will find yourself thinking of things todo, and unless you spend all your time inside a cantina, you will end up hunting at the same spots over and over for half decent loot "geno labs and such"

I went to SWG, left it for NC again, then left NC for other games before going to SWG once more, player cities and Vhc's and creature mounts was in, made the game SO much better, added content was put in and yes the game is very good to get rid of bugs and patch in content monthly or even weekly.

But i sit here now, after paying for 4, yes i said 4 accounts on SWG, 2 are now cancelled and 2 are running for another 2 months, i did the Jedi grind as i found less and less todo, gave up the grind as its a nasty system and trap to get into.

The JTL pack looks great, twitch style gaming, in space, there is no "can we dual scumbag?" you fly a rebel or imp ship your open to attack, simple as and im waiting for that and the Jedi slot change before playing it again, my accounts will be active for those changes.

In the meantime, im shifting between games again, one thing i learned in the past year, it don't matter what the game looks like, it don't matter if you got the best looking armor or not, its all about fighting other people online, a MMO is about PvP, and you can't mix PvP with RP, it can't happen, hence why the Dev's at SWG are going to do a major change in the combat balance department in a few months time.

JTL looks good, the new Jedi system looks good too, its all about PvP, lets hope they get it right.

@ Martin J, if only you paid more attention to your little gem of a game and spiced it up a bit more with the current game, got some peeps in who are players to give you some idea, got a extra dev in to help out with bug fixing, you could kickstart this baby up again, make it better than it was before.

hinch
24-05-04, 16:04
im just working to finish off my 2nd holo grind nightmare did it once on bria when the game was first released and holos were put in

now ive started on chimera with fang and theres 3 of us grinding holos helping each other for AP etc.

at least my latest holo was the easy ranger :) will get that done in a couple of days it could have been worse though a friend got chef :(

and if i get bounty hunter im gonna die

P4mp3rk3
24-05-04, 16:12
ugh, bounty hunter... I was gonna be one when I played... untill I needed a gazillion of combat experience, so I gave up and came back to play nc... YAY!! :angel:

YoDa-UK
24-05-04, 16:33
combat XP is piss easy to get if you know how, its all about knowing how to lvl in SWG :)

I did i think 12 profs, none of them crafting thank god, well except smuggler which has a little of it, i did brawler/tka/fencer which was easy enough, did scout/medic/smuggler/dancer/musician/entertainer/ID and then finished i think with Artisan, the waiting 1 full day surveying summed it up for me i think, and after spending 10 full days listening to that god forsaken music in the cantina i wanted to pull my hair out and smash someones car lol

I'm waiting on the change to the system before trying for a jedi, loads i know play it atm, and we all are playing on Chim as well m8, you know i saw a Fang clan member there, and thought to myself, i wonder if it is.........

we are based on Naboo, you know even Centuri is playing it again with us, codename, guin and cad all play it too, well cad and guin atm gone to RYL untill jedi changes come.

funny thing is we still use the old old NDA teamspeak that Pitspawn put up from the old days, he is playing FF11 atm, seems to enjoy that, not seen it myself, we are all kinda split up atm across different games.

Hey Hinch if your on Chim, did you hear about a lot of crap todo with some rebels called R-A and a certain imp clan called PXA? hehe i might have had something todo with that :lol:

hinch
24-05-04, 16:44
lol yeah heard something about it

fang are imp city is near kaadra on naboo come visit us :)
we dont pvp much though.

if you ahve any holo's ill have them off you :) and yes it was us think it was cent that grabbed me in dath the other week "hinch from NC?" "yup" "cool hiya im nda :)"

SorkZmok
24-05-04, 16:48
im just working to finish off my 2nd holo grind nightmare did it once on bria when the game was first released and holos were put in

now ive started on chimera with fang and theres 3 of us grinding holos helping each other for AP etc.

at least my latest holo was the easy ranger :) will get that done in a couple of days it could have been worse though a friend got chef :(

and if i get bounty hunter im gonna die
My first one said Master Merchant. Didnt even start it. :(

YoDa-UK
24-05-04, 16:54
omg your city is near Kaadara? so is the one i live at, you know New Dereth? its owned by ACE clan, imp of course, same as me, Cent built a new NDA, was funny as hell, we had no idea what to call the clan and someone said "Nabooian Defence Agency" LOL, and so it was born, but like i said its got boring again so a lot of us are waiting it out for the changes.

I don't have any holo's left m8, in fact i was a lucky git in the first place, i had already done 4 profs and 3 of those must of been holo's, as when i opened my first which i got for free from a friend, it was smuggler, did that in 3 days and the next holo i bought for 250k was silent, i sold that holo to someone else for 250k :D

LiL T
24-05-04, 16:56
Sony is a very greedy greedy company I'm never playing one of there over rated games ever since I tryed planetside SOE did not give a shit about the player base all they care about is money.

hinch
24-05-04, 17:11
silent holo's just mean keep mastering different profs till it gives a server announcement of a jedi is born :)

lol you must be the west side of kaadra then :)

ours is Angels Retre'at or someting like that if you look for a small house called fang founding father thats my house :)

7020 6432 ish

im at 1k faction points atm need to do like 1 more mission to give me enough for a promotion to corporal :) but atm im spending all my time between camping and crafting for ranger survival xp and dath ranc hunting for hide/bones for camps.

www.furious-angels.com/gallery ive just setup an swg section and will be putting some screenies in there tonight if you and the nda lot wanna use it to fill some up i'd like that i love seeing what other people get upto. my best one so far ill be uploading tonight is me solo vs 5 rancs :)

im master doc master tka atm :)

YoDa-UK
24-05-04, 17:24
i got some hilarious screenies on file i took over my game time in swg, have to dig some out and try and up them for your section.

Master doc/tka is a very good combo, my wife played that in SWG, she changed to master 2handed now though.

TKA Master is great to solo mobs, more so rancors, i was in a group with peeps once trying to lvl up CH, i had half armor on and no buffs, the entire group became incapped and i had to solo 4 enraged rancors to stop em deathblowing the group, did it too :D then went around and healed the group lol, gotta love TKM ;)

If i pop back onto SWG anytime soon ill pop along to your place and see if your about, your IGN Hinch? mine is Animaz for one of my chars, and Animah oldgit for the other one, which is running out on the 8th next month as i cancelled it, he was my crafter.

Animaz is my PvP'er, well he was gonna be, had a real good setup rdy for him, but gave it up as im sick to death of lvling anymore, kinda half CH and master TKA now.

hinch
24-05-04, 17:36
yeah my ingame name is hinch

getting master tka is pretty damn quick just get buffs and kill rancors you can get 450k unarmed xp in like 2 hours only kicker is combat xp but that gains fastest in tka of any class :)

you can master ch in a day if you know how and have the right macro :)if you decide to play again ill help you out on that one and show you how to master ch fast :)

Zaq
24-05-04, 18:02
I love the way in SWG you start puking after you've taken drugs :-)

but nah, the whole macro culture is shite

I saw people auto-begging on the steps of the star port every two minutes. Then theres the auto-dancing in the cantina :wtf:

BeaNo
24-05-04, 20:37
lol yeah heard something about it

fang are imp city is near kaadra on naboo come visit us :)
we dont pvp much though."

I saw a few Fang people runnin around, I did wonder if that was the same people as from NC.

I started the hologrind, got 16 profs and rerolled a new char out of boredom.

I used to h8 afk-macro users, but when i did dancer, theres no way in hell i was going to sit and watch my char while it was doing that. I do however h8 macro fighters camping n00b spots, just lazy really, as with the buffs/armour situation atm grinding comat is easy as hell.

BeaNo

Richard Slade
25-05-04, 04:01
Quick notes about SW:G:
Exploring is fun, and takes alot of time, but is damn well worth it.
SW:G is not, in any way, a threadmill game for people who like to just lvl lvl lvl. it's what you want it to be. Why just run around and lvl when you can actually do something? I do belive that is the weak spot of SW:G since most people aren't used to that in a mmo. However if you do play it as a RPG it's the bomb. Myself I'm a drugdealing tiny muppet with a huge sword. Not a fighter, just cool shady ;)
Kinda like all spies I've made in NC except for the stealth.

Chim here too ;)
K'Conrad Khk if anyone actually cares, or need wicked cheap stuff.

When looking at it I see people who run around and gank people. Had 20 (YES) Jedi's after me last night. They hate me ;)

Some who hunt the same spots day in and day out.
Some who explore the world and got their 100 wp's out a long time ago but can find the coolest stuff.
Some who sing and dance in the cantina for a tip now and then
Some who wander the deserts and forests giving a helping hand when needed for quite a heft bit of cash
Some who stand in alleys and deal with the most odd stuff I've seen
Some grind for holos and some just make money money money..

It's RP, RolePlay, wannabe real life. It's a life.

Guess it's all about what you want it to be. To bad for many people around they won't even get shit served on a plate here.
You want something to be then go do it

Meanwhile SOE pumps tons of stuff into the game at all times. Always updating and fixing making it better, adding stuff and so on.
SW:G is alive to those who dare to open their eyes instead of being led..

jernau
25-05-04, 04:03
Does anyone know something about this which would make is alot more shit?
It was coded by the same ass-monkeys that wrote the rest of the game. That's enough to make me uninterested.

CincyFire
25-05-04, 04:19
Sure SWG looks cool. It is SW isn't it?

From what I hear, it has turn based fight (blows) weak PVP (blows (I like killing people and looting them)) custum home (cool) strong RPGness (cool) RT space combat (cool) a POS levling system involviong loads of dancing and playing a flute (total crap (I played at a friends home))

Other pros and cons of course but that somes it up for me. I think a game like that has serious abilty but there are flaws that make it no better then most other MMOGs. PLus Neocron is so much cooler and the add on is almost free so there!

thats my 2 cents

5150
25-05-04, 11:05
Short version:

Its one of the first MMORPGs that actually caters to the casual/RP gamer and because of that the PvP diehard players and newbie gankers/griefers dont like it

If you want to play 'Jedis Online' look somewhere else

YoDa-UK
25-05-04, 11:26
Its one of the first MMORPGs that actually caters to the casual/RP gamer and because of that the PvP diehard players and newbie gankers/griefers dont like it

If you want to play 'Jedis Online' look somewhere else

100% agree to that statment, its not built for pvp at all, and hence why their forums are far worse for moaners than NC ever was, a lot of the pvp'ers have long gone, and some stick it out for the combat balance.

But if you read a little on whats coming up with publish 9 and 10, the entire Jedi system is being revamped, and truely they are aiming this as the end game, it baffles me how they will keep this in line with the present storyline, having jedi and hybrid jedi running about, and people even without a jedi having some force sensitive abilities /shrug

BUT i will say this, teh new jedis will be much more aimed at PvP, you simply can't become a jedi master without killing a lot of your enemy, you will be perma overt, which means open to attack 24/7, none of this consensual bullshit it has at present, they also adding in Jedi enclaves, a high council as it were for dark and light side jedi's.

So that sounds nice tbh, i have friends i speak to daily on TS who have Jedi's, so ill know what it is like before i get mine "if i get mine" as i wont be going for jedi for another 8 weeks or so untill publish 10 with the new quest based system.

But for those who love to RP, craft and hunt mobs, its a great game, for pvp atm its a bit crap, no real aims.

Tenchi_Runyo
25-05-04, 11:31
I used to play swg...gave it serveral chances at trying to find something fun to do in it...first I tried fighting mobs, that wasn't fun. Then I tried tradeskilling, that was also not fun. Then I tried musician, that was decently fun and it was the only think I really enjoyed in the game. I also never really used macro's because I liked to do as many variations to the songs as I could, really getting into the beat. But eventually that gets old and it pays shit anyways so I quit the game...the hardest part was giving away my pet droids..they were my best friends in the game. Always there when I was bored in the cantina just playing my songs or sitting down and thinking.

I even had the special editon game with the goggles and all. I was Ghemta Fai'El on Starsider, but I doubt anyone here would remember me. I mostly played on Rori, it was where I started and became home. I also occasionally visited Naboo. I was even going to have concerts in the game, having people pay me to listen to pay for my trip to the next planet but I gave that all up. I have a lot of sorrow when I think of that game, I expected it to be so much more fun.

zanzan
25-05-04, 13:00
im playing swg on eclipse really good game now, i also have a jedi padawan as from today:)1/3 grind done:/

hinch
25-05-04, 13:13
you mean you opened your FS slot and now are an initiate

fs > initiate > padawan > guardian > knight

----^ you are here
--------------------------------^ i r somewhere here not actually played that char in months cos i moved servers from bria

BeaNo
25-05-04, 13:37
It's RP, RolePlay, wannabe real life. It's a life.

Guess it's all about what you want it to be. To bad for many people around they won't even get shit served on a plate here.
You want something to be then go do it

Meanwhile SOE pumps tons of stuff into the game at all times. Always updating and fixing making it better, adding stuff and so on.
SW:G is alive to those who dare to open their eyes instead of being led..

Could't have put it better myself.

Death Watch Bunker today, another new dungeon and a few more new toys for us.

PS on Chim to Aban Foivi current leader of xXx, living in Praetoria.

hinch
25-05-04, 14:04
i briefly drove through praetoria last night looking for an imp mission term some fucking rebs hacked and despawned the bunker i put near angels retreat and i dont have the FP to buy another one

Nasher
25-05-04, 14:22
Only problem with SWG is 90% of the game is either bug ridden, not thought out properly before doing it, doesnt work as it should, or just left half finished because another "feature" beings in more money/customer interest (e.g. look at the jedi system, pretty soon there will be more jedi than normal players because of their poor planning and almost every player is trying to get one)

SOE is to bothered about how many millions of $$$ they are making from their new starwars logo than whether all the players are happy :/

hinch
25-05-04, 14:26
actually not quiet nasher

there are very FEW bugs infact its one of the least bug ridden games out there and as soon as somethings spotted its patched within 24 hours.

its stable you hardly get server lag spikes etc regardless of connections.

once a development path has been picked that path is stuck to until completion.

under the new system everyone is entitled to an FS slot. however that still in no way guarantees youll make it to jedi its mission based and takes longer under the new system than under the current holo system to complete. and even then theres no guarantee you'll make the grade to iniate lvl

so your quite clueless

Nasher
25-05-04, 14:30
Actually when I played I was finding bugs/exploits by the hour (you have to know where to look ;) ), I reported them but only the bad ones even get looked at, then it can take WEEKS for them to think about fixing them (thats if they even know how). Although they do make a LOT of un-announced changes and nerfs regulaly.

Oh yes and we cant forget about the memory leaks in the graphics engine and the netcode is so bloated it could have been a microsoft OS.

zanzan
25-05-04, 14:45
hinch i masterd initiate[padawan], been grinding it for 2 months now, the xp amount is insane:x
finally got my all pearl saber =D

hinch
25-05-04, 14:48
lol 5th gen all perl are nice

im using a red clustered perl one (staff)

yeah the xxxK lvl of crafting xp needed is insane for high gen sabers

BeaNo
25-05-04, 16:06
i briefly drove through praetoria last night looking for an imp mission term some fucking rebs hacked and despawned the bunker i put near angels retreat and i dont have the FP to buy another one

Atm our guild is going through a transitional period, we got attacked while noone was there the other day, usual stuff farming FP off our NPC's and turrets.

Hopefully we will have the OP, Guild and Town sorted son.

Hope to see you around there sometime.

BeaNo

PS on the topic of bugs, there are bugs, but they do have a good response time on most bugs (with obvious exceptions BH missions etc.) But expecting a game to bugless is pointless, for the size of the game and the amount of stuff implemented the bugs are petty and liveable imo.

Judge
25-05-04, 16:06
Bah, so many games that I want to try out soon. Its not fair. :(

Jump to Lightspeed
DoY
Shadowbane
Dragon Empires
FoMK

RuButt
25-05-04, 16:07
virtual houses are ownage!

ive played UO just for housing.. the one thing that might get me back to NC is customizable appies..

i think ima try SW:G out =)

BeaNo
25-05-04, 16:10
Bah, so many games that I want to try out soon. Its not fair. :(

Jump to Lightspeed
DoY
Shadowbane
Dragon Empires
FoMK

Tried shadowbane, was ok. Didnt find it to n00b friendly, and the community seemed to be a bit wank.

Personally im waiting for MxO, will be definatley trying that out.

(PS If u do try SWG and need a hand /tell or mail me. I will do my best to try and help u out. IGN is Aban) :D

hinch
25-05-04, 17:43
Atm our guild is going through a transitional period, we got attacked while noone was there the other day, usual stuff farming FP off our NPC's and turrets.


thats something i do see as fucking annoying atm rebs can just farm the million and 1 imp npc's that are now all over the place to get fp wheras as an imp theres fk all rebel npc's around unless i do imp missions most annoying.

i hope rebs win next storyline publish so some of their npc's get stuck around for me to gank

GambitFlame
25-05-04, 17:52
EDIT: Ill notice there are 4 pages next time :rolleyes:

Jesterthegreat
25-05-04, 18:35
']im going to test SW:G ..... *looks around to see NC ppl with junkknifes and murder in their gaze*


buy my account?

cos i sure as hell hated the game :p

plague
25-05-04, 18:58
hey after reading this thread i want to give SWG a try can anyone gimme link to the neb forums or place where they tell about chars and sht, who should i pick? I w3as thinking jedi or bounty hunter, any sugestionss??

Judge
25-05-04, 19:05
I don't think that you can just become a Jedi... theres like, loads of leveling and shit involved before you open up your Jedi slot, or whatever.

plague
25-05-04, 19:06
I don't think that you can just become a Jedi... theres like, loads of leveling and shit involved before you open up your Jedi slot, or whatever.
muh, lol i dunno nothing about the game heh bummer would be kinda kewl to run around with lasersaber and hack up newb lol w00t am new oh well

Vid Gamer
25-05-04, 19:10
Yeah, currently you have to master like 25+ professions to open the Jedi slot, but soon they will rework the Jedi system where it's based on missions and PvP.

YoDa-UK
25-05-04, 19:36
For anyone thinking of trying out SWG to get a Jedi at this late stage, forget it, you got about 6 weeks left or so before the change over to quest based forceslots, it would be impossible to master 32 profs from now untill then.

SWG is very much a carebear game in that sense of it, the PvP it not open to anyone and you certainly can't go around blasting enemy or slicing em up with a lightsaber, its consensual pvp, which basically means you have two states, over and covert, almost everyone is aligned to either imperial or rebel factions, and 99% are covert, which means they can walk about freely and not be touched by their enemy, kinda like walking about in a safezone perma.

ONLY when one person or a group goes OVERT, can they then be open to attack, but again only by other OVERTS of the enemy faction.

Now picture this, your Overt with a few friends, standing about in a town, lots of people walking about, no enemy in sight, they are all covert, you can't touch em, they can shit talk to your face, nothing you can do, you can try and ask for a dual from one of em, but chances are they will refuse.

What happens next is the worst pvp system ive seen ever, you can get one enemy who is overt, but grouped with several of his m8's, they are covert, hidden as it were, now the one guy who is overt attacks you, so naturally you all attack him, but not knowing is the fact one of his m8's heals him, giving him what they termed as s TEF "temp enemy flag", it means that person is open to attack but only from the one guy who is attacking the overt. Confused yet? it gets better O_o

That one guy was covert, but now he can attack you, and only you, to the rest of your overt group, he is untouchable, he only got the flag to you.

So it becomes unbalanced.

Another great feature of this TEF system, is when you kill someone, they go covert, BUT they also have a timer on them which allows them to attack you and only you "you being the one who killed him" so while he is covert, and you and your m8's are overt, these idiots come out of the cloning center, run up to you and attack you, they get the first shot in before you can do anything, most of the time if its a combat medic, say bye bye as they are the worst case of overpowered class in the game atm.

Hence why i stopped PvP'ing in that game for now.

Interesting to see the new jedi revamp will make all Jedi perma 24/7 overt to everyone, and only the elite PvP'ing Jedi get to the top and become masters, that would take skill to obtain, well as much skill as it takes to target/lock on a enemy and press a button lol, you never miss :rolleyes:

I'm hoping JTL will be different, twitch freestyle pvp

Nasher
25-05-04, 20:09
Just tried their latest SWG "feature" and ....LOL, quality pretty much speaks for itself :rolleyes:

Its like a 10 min copy and paste job with some new textures, and this took them a couple of months?!?

hinch
25-05-04, 20:14
your clearly playing a different swg to everyone else then cos for everyone else most patches are monthly :wtf:

Nasher
25-05-04, 20:38
I didnt say anything about patches...

I was commenting on their laughable poor quality copy pasting work (which they didnt even do a good job hiding!) and lack of origionality in what was hyped to be a major feature.

But what really takes the piss is they make people pay subscription for it.

plague
25-05-04, 21:00
For anyone thinking of trying out SWG to get a Jedi at this late stage, forget it, you got about 6 weeks left or so before the change over to quest based forceslots, it would be impossible to master 32 profs from now untill then.

SWG is very much a carebear game in that sense of it, the PvP it not open to anyone and you certainly can't go around blasting enemy or slicing em up with a lightsaber, its consensual pvp, which basically means you have two states, over and covert, almost everyone is aligned to either imperial or rebel factions, and 99% are covert, which means they can walk about freely and not be touched by their enemy, kinda like walking about in a safezone perma.

ONLY when one person or a group goes OVERT, can they then be open to attack, but again only by other OVERTS of the enemy faction.

Now picture this, your Overt with a few friends, standing about in a town, lots of people walking about, no enemy in sight, they are all covert, you can't touch em, they can shit talk to your face, nothing you can do, you can try and ask for a dual from one of em, but chances are they will refuse.

What happens next is the worst pvp system ive seen ever, you can get one enemy who is overt, but grouped with several of his m8's, they are covert, hidden as it were, now the one guy who is overt attacks you, so naturally you all attack him, but not knowing is the fact one of his m8's heals him, giving him what they termed as s TEF "temp enemy flag", it means that person is open to attack but only from the one guy who is attacking the overt. Confused yet? it gets better O_o

That one guy was covert, but now he can attack you, and only you, to the rest of your overt group, he is untouchable, he only got the flag to you.

So it becomes unbalanced.

Another great feature of this TEF system, is when you kill someone, they go covert, BUT they also have a timer on them which allows them to attack you and only you "you being the one who killed him" so while he is covert, and you and your m8's are overt, these idiots come out of the cloning center, run up to you and attack you, they get the first shot in before you can do anything, most of the time if its a combat medic, say bye bye as they are the worst case of overpowered class in the game atm.

Hence why i stopped PvP'ing in that game for now.

Interesting to see the new jedi revamp will make all Jedi perma 24/7 overt to everyone, and only the elite PvP'ing Jedi get to the top and become masters, that would take skill to obtain, well as much skill as it takes to target/lock on a enemy and press a button lol, you never miss :rolleyes:

I'm hoping JTL will be different, twitch freestyle pvp

LOL I read half of this post and desided wait till they make some changes(expantion) hehe, this game sound like utter crap at least for me cuz i play for pvp not for walking around shooting dumb npc's and chatting lol...heh oh well ill stick to nc NC PWNZOOORR lol :lol:

rob444
25-05-04, 22:39
For those who want to try SWG, you can do it at fileplanet, 14 days trial, no credit card required!

http://www.fileplanet.com/files/140000/140938.shtml

Im so gonna download and try it :P

EDIT: BAH!! I have to be a fileplanet subscriber, UGH!! Damn..

Carinth
26-05-04, 02:55
I read that the expansion pack will have real Xwing vs TieFighter like gameplay. You can pickup a joystick and get into a dogfight. I think that alone would sell me on it.

TraumaTeam
26-05-04, 04:32
They should call this expansion: "Star Wars: There, Are You Happy Now?"

This is all the stuff they should have had from the start. A Star Wars game without droids, vehicles, and space travel? Did they even watch the movies?

It would be like a Blade Runner game without simulants, cops, or an urban setting.

naimex
26-05-04, 04:36
They should call this expansion: "Star Wars: There, Are You Happy Now?"

This is all the stuff they should have had from the start. A Star Wars game without droids, vehicles, and space travel? Did they even watch the movies?

It would be like a Blade Runner game without simulants, cops, or an urban setting.


I played it in the period, from where there were droids, but no vehicles.

Then came the vehicles, and I have never had a laggier experience than those 5000 vehicles that were parked in the main square, along with all the creatures there were for sale.

If I had 1 fps I was lucky.


Vehicles did a lot for SWG, no doubt.

but X-Wings and Tie Figthers..

they gonna break the records, and go straight into space.

hinch
26-05-04, 09:42
no vehicles ? :)
http://www.furious-angels.com/gallery/data/media/13/screenShot0013.jpg

Judge
26-05-04, 12:29
Bah... anyone know how long the exclusive on the 14 day trial is going to last? Or anyone got a fileplanet account that I can borrow briefly? :D

Nasher
26-05-04, 18:22
I dont know why they are making such a big deal out of their space addon, its a starwars game and should have been there from the start, if anything the planets should have come after :P

I still wanna see how well multi-person spaceships are going to work, when they cant even get the passenger seat in a 2 seater speeder to work :)

5150
27-05-04, 11:25
Actually droids were in from release

They just sucked a bit until recently