level3 to blame for lag?

[trigger hurt]

Lately, while playing during off times on saturn, many have noticed huge pings spikes. Of course, the typical response is "it's probably your ISP".

I kinda doubted that since anywhere else, I dont have any problems, even on team fortress servers that live in germany. So why isn't KK investigating the lag? *shrug*. I just wish they would put a server in the states...anywhere in the states would be fine with me, but this game is dependant on fps and low latency to determine your success in a fight. Skills can only do so much when you have a constant ping of 300.

Tracing route to 62.140.29.54 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 22 ms 13 ms 7 ms 10.58.96.1
2 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms pos10-2.clmascmhe-rtr2.sc.rr.com [24.31.193
3 11 ms 11 ms 10 ms pos0-1.chrlncsa-rtr2.carolina.rr.com [24.93

4 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms son0-0-3.chrlncsa-rtr6.carolina.rr.com [24.
61]
5 9 ms 19 ms 16 ms pop1-cha-P0-3.atdn.net [66.185.132.33]
6 11 ms 12 ms 9 ms bb2-cha-P0-2.atdn.net [66.185.132.38]
7 20 ms 16 ms 18 ms bb2-atm-P6-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.30]
8 34 ms 17 ms 26 ms pop2-atm-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.147.211]
9 15 ms 32 ms 15 ms so-1-0.hsa1.Atlanta2.Level3.net [66.185.138
10 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms so-4-1-0.bbr1.Atlanta1.Level3.net [209.247.

11 34 ms 38 ms 40 ms so-0-1-0.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net [64.159.1
12 121 ms 100 ms 101 ms so-2-0-0.mp2.London1.Level3.net [212.187.12

13 131 ms 117 ms 114 ms so-3-0-0.mp1.Hamburg1.Level3.net [4.68.128.
14 117 ms 115 ms 149 ms ge-4-1.hsa2.Hamburg1.Level3.net [195.122.14

15 114 ms 117 ms 126 ms fe-0-0.core1.ham1.de.inetbone.net [62.67.23

16 115 ms 115 ms 135 ms 212.162.3.84
17 116 ms 116 ms 115 ms 62.140.29.54

That's my traceroute. Did it 3 times, all at off-peak times. Notice the huge jump in ping times from newyork to london. Yes, I understand that the data is crossing an ocean, but if lvl3 has a dedicated trunk that runs from new york to london, why is my ping spiking so high when jumping across the ocean?

If anyone knows anything about level 3 and can clear this up for me, I would appreciate it. As it stands, it appears that all my spiking is coming from lvl 3, not my ISP.

[[TgR]KILLER]

yea been laggy all night.. we had a little meeting ingame and we all lagged out now and then..

[wun]

my average ping... no matter what kind of connection... cable or dsl.. is always roughly 350.... has been known to spike to 1000+

just a fact of 'cron life for me... :rolleyes:

[TWOK]

My average ping is 175 - 250, but over the last week it's been awfull. Ping jumping to 900-2700 o_O with increasing fequency, tonight being the worst! I'm pretty sure it's not my ISP...mainly because of all the "wtf lag" comments batted around the channels. Please sort it out :mad:

[Shujin]

shaun connery is their spokesperson, so no it couldnt possibly be them. if you say otherwise he will teh kos u

[Marx]

wasn't there supposed to be some 1337 haxor unification thing goin' on today?

Hacking a gibson or something like that.

o_O

http://dirtynuke.net/hackers-30.jpg

[Lathuc]

it may be the seastring from the us to europe but if its happening also in the uk and germany then im stumped (oh and dont blame me if it is the seastring points to wher i live)

[Scikar]

Originally posted by Marx
wasn't there supposed to be some 1337 haxor unification thing goin' on today?

Hacking a gibson or something like that.

o_O



I thought I recognised that phrase from somewhere. Ironic that we have a Dade Murphey online on these boards isn't it?

[Mighty Max]

why is my ping spiking so high when jumping across the ocean?

Because of 6133.768 km Distance between those cities. In an no repeater communication the communicationtime has to be at least 2* time of light for the travel.

So its 2* 6133km/3000000km/s => 40,8ms. Under optimal conditions. No corrections only sending and handshake. If you ping(or tracert), the router will have to send a package again back. Again with handshaking, that makes 81.6ms .... let me look what you got: 121ms-34ms = 87ms so fine.

Nearly best communication speed.

[Psyco Groupie]

that proves NOTHING apart from that the ping time across the atlantic adds 100ms to anyones ping ..

there may well be routing problems but that proves nothing nor helps at all

[Mighty Max]

that proves NOTHING apart from that the ping time across the atlantic adds 100ms to anyones ping ..



Just his tracert ..... (and that he cant blame it on those 90ms, since they are normal)

[mdares]

Originally posted by Mighty Max
Because of 6133.768 km Distance between those cities. In an no repeater communication the communicationtime has to be at least 2* time of light for the travel.

So its 2* 6133km/3000000km/s => 40,8ms. Under optimal conditions. No corrections only sending and handshake. If you ping(or tracert), the router will have to send a package again back. Again with handshaking, that makes 81.6ms .... let me look what you got: 121ms-34ms = 87ms so fine.

Nearly best communication speed.

just a correction: speed of light is 2.998E8 m/s = 2.998E5 km/s; u have 2.998E6 km/s :D

didnt want the kids out there to get the wrong info; the rest of ur math was right; u just typed an extra zero :p

:eek: