View Full Version : IMO: Pluto = Best Server For Serious Players
PenguinNick
05-01-04, 09:40
Here is (in my opinion) why Pluto is better than Saturn and Uranus
Only 1 Character - Both good and bad. Good because it reduces thieving, and raises the trust factor. Bad because you can only have one type of character.
More Faction Help - I see a lot more of faction members helping other members on Pluto in one day than I ever did on Saturn or Uranus in a week
Faction Loyalty - You pick one faction, you don't have an alt here and an alt there.
Less Spys - Less spys in other factions, if any (im sure there are some but no where near as Uranus and Saturn)
Anyone else agree / disagree?
Psycho Killa
05-01-04, 09:45
I agree but I smell a flame war coming :eek:
idealy yeah but playing 1 char only is hella boring in this game
I'd agree but I can certainly see why other people might like the 4 char servers better. In my personal opinion Pluto is the way to go.
What is REALLY disappointing is the people who play on the 4 char servers because of higher population even though they like Pluto better. It sucks they have to play on a server they like less just to have a good time. All of us who have stuck with Pluto are praying for higher populations to not only bring new players in, but also the old ones back. ;)
Psycho Killa
05-01-04, 09:47
Lol well some people dont like loggin in when they see 80 people. ;) Maybe im just paranoid and that wasnt directed at me since we all posted in the same minute heh.
Also I returned back to pluto for a bit but I just havent had fun in this game in FOREVER. So I uninstalled and im gonna take atleast a week or two off of not playing a second in hopes when I return ill enjoy it more.
slaughteruall
05-01-04, 09:50
I played on pluto for awhile. And i only play there now if i'm sick and tired of the sync's and what not on saturn. I have always had more fun on saturn then on pluto. The only reason i dont like pluto is that if you want to have a good tradeskiller that you need 2 accounts. I mean i have a TL 212 resser (if i remember right) unbuffed on saturn if he was that high on pluto he could not be a fighter. That is the only problem that i IMO have with a single char server.
Slaughter
Originally posted by Psycho Killa
Lol well some people dont like loggin in when they see 80 people. ;) Maybe im just paranoid and that wasnt directed at me since we all posted in the same minute heh.
Also I returned back to pluto for a bit but I just havent had fun in this game in FOREVER. So I uninstalled and im gonna take atleast a week or two off of not playing a second in hopes when I return ill enjoy it more. Haha your leaving for two weeks and you didnt make a "leaving thread?" Shame shame.
I took a few month break myself and I'm certainly glad I did. It will either a) make you realize how much fun you had or b) make you realize your better off without it. Thats a good thing to do cause some times people play MMOs out of habit.
You'll be back though, and ready to take some ops on Pluto for BD. ;)
Slaughter has a very valid point. Uber trade skillers are hard to come by unless you find some one with two accounts. I have two myself and I feel guilty as hell for it. Pluto was more popular before specialization hit the game. :(
sanityislost
05-01-04, 09:58
Yea pluto is a really chilled out server went to sat just to get a feel for the server went back to pluto the next day, went to uranus to my an apu didnt like it there so 20min later i rerolled to a apu on pluto lol :p
Psycho Killa
05-01-04, 10:01
Lol there no need for an "uber" tradeskiller. Havent you people learned yet that a capped dex and int spy aside from failure rate theres no difference between 130 (I dunno the exact number) and 2000000000 construct. (Except I dunno about rares but ive had rares built by people with crap skill and came out with 120 3 slotters)
Original monk
05-01-04, 10:08
for me every server breads he's own atmosphere, i mainly play saturn cause i play there the longest by now, know the most people but i can certainly enjoy a visit at pluto where i have my noobie-apu :) its indeed another atmosphere, people are less serieus on pluto it seems, much more laughing on the tradechannel etc, while saturn seems more serieus: when ya make a joke on the tradechannel ya better explain it cause no-one will laugh :) there all deadserieus: or my jokes yust suck, also possible :P
btw i started on pluto in beta4 so thats my roots :)
also uranus i enjoy alot cause its more chill, more relaxing over there (compared to saturn) :) i always go play my uranus chars when i need a vacation :P and its veery fun i must say.
also on pluto and uranus everything is cheap like hell if youre used to saturn prices, so ya can start out pretty fast with new chars, what also attracks me :)
anyways: dont go: this server is more uber then that one and that one sucks .. all servers are the same and every server has he's rotten apples, but i enjoy playing em all :)
the german and french server i wouldnt know: my german and french are to bad for that :)
au revoir, un bonne annee
or was it une bonne annee, je ne sais pas
Shadow Dancer
05-01-04, 10:12
80% of Pluto is alts. It's just as lame as 4 char servers, except with lower population. I see apus with ppu alts buffing them then they run into pp and fight. :rolleyes: I see people logging on alts all the time to "change" what class they want to be in an op war. :rolleyes: I see people with 3-4 accounts on a 1 char server then for some reason call 4 char servers lame. :rolleyes: I've seen people with multiple accounts flame me for wanting pluto to have another char slot. :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
Originally posted by PenguinNick
Here is (in my opinion) why Pluto is better than Saturn and Uranus
Only 1 Character - Both good and bad. Good because it reduces thieving, and raises the trust factor. Bad because you can only have one type of character.
More Faction Help - I see a lot more of faction members helping other members on Pluto in one day than I ever did on Saturn or Uranus in a week
Faction Loyalty - You pick one faction, you don't have an alt here and an alt there.
Less Spys - Less spys in other factions, if any (im sure there are some but no where near as Uranus and Saturn)
Anyone else agree / disagree?
1 char, umm a hell of a lot of people on pluto have alts, so that dont mean shit
more faction help, well i dunno about that, when i was a merc there was helpful people on faction chat, now im BD noone asks for help so meh
faction loyalty, my tank is my main and hes fully loyal to black dragon, and will not be moving for love nor money(unless a faction gets a really cool epic item:D j/k) my other characters are nothing tbh, just tradeskillers, except my melee tank and my PE, and my PE is also BD and my melee is no faction atm cos of a bug.
as for spys, you only need one spy in a faction to hear whats going on.
if you like pluto so much just play on it, no need to create a thread that is potentialy gonna go up in flames.
oh and fuck pluto
What about defining "serious player" before making such a statement ?
Originally posted by LEFF|pm
What about defining "serious player" before making such a statement ?
a serious player is someone who plays on pluto:rolleyes:
Originally posted by Jest
I'd agree but I can certainly see why other people might like the 4 char servers better. In my personal opinion Pluto is the way to go.
What is REALLY disappointing is the people who play on the 4 char servers because of higher population even though they like Pluto better. It sucks they have to play on a server they like less just to have a good time. All of us who have stuck with Pluto are praying for higher populations to not only bring new players in, but also the old ones back. ;)
Exactly Jest - that's one of the reasons I went over to Saturn. Numbers were wayyy down on PLuto, and still are (sadly). If numbers went back up a bit, I would jump back over again.
I have noticed that they are moving up a little. Not so long back, peak times were about 140-150. Now hovering close to 200.
Originally posted by GT_Rince
Exactly Jest - that's one of the reasons I went over to Saturn. Numbers were wayyy down on PLuto, and still are (sadly). If numbers went back up a bit, I would jump back over again.
Well Rince, if half the people like you would return to Pluto the server would most likely have the player number you're all looking for ;-)
Originally posted by Lucjan
Well Rince, if half the people like you would return to Pluto the server would most likely have the player number you're all looking for ;-)
LOL - was thinking that as I posted :D
I think part of the problem, is that that peeps are leaving the game and not just moving servers. When I came back from my break, I played on Pluto again for a few days. In that time, things had got pretty fucked up. One particular clan was at war with anyone (it seemed) - including own faction and all hell was breaking lose. More friends left while I was gone, and more have left since. I still have a lot of friends on there, but things just didn't seem to be going well for the server in general. Hence the reason for my move to Saturn - at least for now...
If things stabalise, I may come back. I have always played on Pluto and the decision to move over to Saturn was not one I made quickly. It meant leaving a lot of friends. As it turns out, Some peeps I know also play Saturn so not too bad in that respect.
Gotta say though, that if Pluto had 1 more char slot, I think so many more peeps would play there. The fact that so many peeps have 2,3 & 4 accounts should point to that. Or maybe KK are enjoying the extra money and won't change Pluto to more than 1 char :D
i love the atmosphere on pluto, but i think it needs to stop pretending that the 1 char slot server bullshit makes a difference, because it really doesnt. it might have 1 year ago, but right now prettty much every player on pluto has an alt.. or more!
couldnt agree with you more, saturn is fun and all but whenever there is a more power in one faction everyone goes to that faction. On pluto little next to nobody changes.
Originally posted by Shadow Dancer
80% of Pluto is alts. It's just as lame as 4 char servers, except with lower population. I see apus with ppu alts buffing them then they run into pp and fight. :rolleyes: I see people logging on alts all the time to "change" what class they want to be in an op war. :rolleyes: I see people with 3-4 accounts on a 1 char server then for some reason call 4 char servers lame. :rolleyes: I've seen people with multiple accounts flame me for wanting pluto to have another char slot. :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
The only prob i can see with haveing multiple char slots is it doesn't help in some situations where its easier to have two chars on at once (not ppu's buffing etc thats just lame). I used to be against multiple accounts on the server untill i became active there properly again. Atm without being in one of the big clans finding a tradeskiller can take hours, after two days and no repairer i decided to make myself a new acount with a tradeskiller. Imo this is more the downside of a one char server, less people are willing to have their one and only char a tradeskiller, as the game forces specialisation to the extent you cant be a good tradeskiller and have a optimum pvp setup. The easiest and quickest way for most people is to make a alt tradeskiller, and i cant see kk doing anything to help solve this problem as it generates most of their income :p .
Originally posted by wolfwood
couldnt agree with you more, saturn is fun and all but whenever there is a more power in one faction everyone goes to that faction. On pluto little next to nobody changes.
not true, look at the current situation, you have 2 clans that have basically split into 3, pro(TG) gone to bio, ND split into NAT(FA)and the mighty -=Cartel=-, i admit when ND were at there peak power lots of people went TG.
but people aint gonna go BD as a noob cos they will get pwned.
and despite those moves saturn hasnt changed that much, the mercs have been around forever, and the major TT clans have been around a long time.
a few clans change sure but thats just the way it goes i dont think more character slots has anything to do with people moving to diffrent factions
If Pluto were ACTUALLY a 1 char server, it would rock. But its far from it.
I played mostly on Pluto before, but now I am just on Saturn. It is fun having that many people in game at once, and the effects of alt twinking *seems* minimal. Its always easy to find someone doing the tradeskills of your choice. And you could still make a living doing only tradeskills if you wanted.
The whole point of a MMORPG is interaction with other players instead of AI, and you simply get more of that on Saturn.
Originally posted by Rieper
i love the atmosphere on pluto, but i think it needs to stop pretending that the 1 char slot server bullshit makes a difference, because it really doesnt. it might have 1 year ago, but right now prettty much every player on pluto has an alt.. or more!
Exactly. Actually numbers doesn't seem to bother me. I've logged in when there have been 50 people on the server and still found stuff to do and see wars/fights going on.
To be honest I have played for the most part on Pluto. The only thing stopping me playing on other servers is the level of muppets that come from Saturn say to Pluto.
- You would own me in a fight with your character on Saturn? I don't care, STFU
- Your character on Saturn is better then anyone on Pluto? Who gives a toss, STFU
- You like to PK and think pluto people are all carebears? Thats nice, have a nice cup of STFU
- Your clan on Saturn is better then other clans on Pluto? Whoopee your a nobody here, STFU.
Seriously, we don't give a toss. You want to play on pluto, fine play. But all your status on another server means for the most part dick on Pluto. Actually some of the people who have I met who have a good rep on other servers do so from thier playstyle and extend it to other servers.
Having said that, there are some pretty decent people coming from Saturn and the other servers, sadly the LMJs tend to spam crap on the channels more. I logged on when Saturn was down and I put 10 people on ignore in the space of 30 minutes to get rid of the crap being spammed.
Jesterthegreat
05-01-04, 17:50
Originally posted by PenguinNick
Here is (in my opinion) why Pluto is better than Saturn and Uranus
Only 1 Character - Both good and bad. Good because it reduces thieving, and raises the trust factor. Bad because you can only have one type of character.
More Faction Help - I see a lot more of faction members helping other members on Pluto in one day than I ever did on Saturn or Uranus in a week
Faction Loyalty - You pick one faction, you don't have an alt here and an alt there.
Less Spys - Less spys in other factions, if any (im sure there are some but no where near as Uranus and Saturn)
Anyone else agree / disagree?
no... just no.
we all know that 90% of pluto players have multiple accounts on their "hardcore" server... and moan about "noob" servers...
personally i like Uranus. i like the atmosphere. but i wouldnt say Uranus > *.
it is all down to personal choice... stop trying to rationalise your love of a single server... just play and be happy
HAWR HAWR I HOEP YU R BALZ DEI!!!!!!
does that ring a bell? well serious, for sure.
Cliffraiser
05-01-04, 18:06
SHINJIN!!!@!!@!!!@
Pluto is and always has been my fave server.
It just feels ALIVE, like the people actually care about whats happening and getting their MATES rather than their ALTs to bash you to death. Love it.
Mingoo
[edit]disclaimer: this and always will be a personal opinion of mine, possibly subject to change. I can see why other people like other servers.
I moved over to ura for 2 months, to play an apu and a tank.
It was very sad leaving behind so many people on pluto, and I returned mid-december, after about 3 weeks on the TS.
It was a shame that I had to leave people so I could enjoy another front to the game. IMO, at least, pluto *should* increase char slots. Because although it may be a nice thought about having no alts and being loyal , it is true that a lot of people have more than one account so they can have an alt there, which defeats the gains of a single-char server. Id rather everyone get access to an alt, rather than those with the money for a second account only. If no-one did have multiple account alt's , then I would agree outright to keep pluto one char.
Yeah. Its a shame they cant actually STOP alts on a 1-char server.
Mingoo
Originally posted by Mingerroo
Yeah. Its a shame they cant actually STOP alts on a 1-char server.
Mingoo
tell me why exactly would they want to stop people from making them. they get money....
i love pluto, tried saturn and you cant even level 1/2 the time without getting pked by some 2+ star stupid fuck. you like to pk thats fine. but guess what not everyone likes to be pked while leveling. and pking low chars does not make you good a pvp in anyway at all.
Originally posted by SovKhan
tell me why exactly would they want to stop people from making them. they get money....
i love pluto, tried saturn and you cant even level 1/2 the time without getting pked by some 2+ star stupid fuck. you like to pk thats fine. but guess what not everyone likes to be pked while leveling. and pking low chars does not make you good a pvp in anyway at all.
where do you nibs level ffs?
honestly i just took a spy and a tank from 0/2 ro */50+ in the past 2 weeks and i didn't get pk'd once lol
honestly...there are some amazing leveling spots people just DONT go...you guys should go ahead and try to learn the map so you can find these places and then maybe you wouldn't get pk'd
not everyone on saturn pk's noobs tho, for instance I only pk noobs if they are in an enemy clan...i'd kill a 0/2 noob in an enemy clan for all I care cuz I know its an alt :lol:
dude, you been playing on sat for a while. I levelled up my chars thru TG caves and caving. when i was levelling it was safe as fuck with ND in power.
for a newbie who will go to aggy dens, and sewers you KNOW most days there will be exploiters and pkers camping and killing there. MB is raided too.
its not a safe server, not compared to the others. and tbh while newbie vs newbie pvp is pwn, and a feared pker is great (whoa re neocron's famous people? the pkers... Mega+Psyco, Joystick, Shujin, Ginger Magician, HATE :p) when pking is the norm, its bullshit. Pkers are murderers, vicious exiles feared by newbies and hated by anti-pkers. When it becomes acceptable behaviour, then its bollocks.
lol yes call me a nib. not getting pked when you know people on a server is pretty easy. and there were pkers in all my usuall spots which includes the bezerk cellars with the like really low mobs, and also outzone storage's. im not going to go run to some extreemly remote location so i can level a mess around character. and just because you dont pk unclanned nubs do not mean anything cus alot of people do. i just much prefer plutos way of dealing with things to that of saturns. which is mainly im bored lets go take an op/go to PP, than hey lets stop and the aggies and plow through some lowbie chars.
i do believe the LE was designed for saturn mainly hah.
PKers are in the usual spots cause they are just that- usual spots. Most PKers dont traverse with the hopes of randomly coming across someone to PK. They go where they have good chances of finding someone.
And you should seriously consider the LE. It really has no downside now except clan membership, and that is easily handled via Buddy chat. Leave the LE in then hit the usual spots. Problem solved. Really the BIGGEST downside to the LE is the loss of a brain imp spot.
slaughteruall
05-01-04, 22:31
@Psycho Killa i never said anything about CSTers i mentioned my resser. You need a high lvl resser for less chances of breaking parts. I just wish they would increase the speed a little it's way to slow as it is.
Slaughter
i think before i leave ill try to and cap a lowtech pe on saturn, if anyone fancies giving me a hand when you see Manic 5 playing please do :D
ive only played uranus alot in comparison to saturn, but pluto has always been my favourite.
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